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Originally Posted by jimmy_c
Getting away from the one eyed ford and holden fans. Its not so much the cars that are a let down. It is dealing with the clowns who sell and service them.
Apart from the few good ones. They suck !! Full stop. If they want to know why people are not buying ford and holdens. then look no further than the dealers.
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Very much true!
I think the Ford Falcon is the best built vehicle around! Want to know why?
How many vehicles can survive so long without being serviced?
That is the cold hard fact. I have a few mates who were apprentices in Ford dealerships and they DON'T service their vehicles. Most of the time you will book in for your $300 service and it will sit in the workshop all day only occasionally taken out for a few burnouts by the apprentices. On top of that they might make up a few problems and charge you for that and book up 2 hours to change the spark plugs which of course they don't do.
The difference over at the Japanese dealerships are stark. I have a mate who is an apprentice at a Toyota dealership and while the vehicles are not built any better the difference is that they replace EVERYTHING (often expensively). Toyotas reputation is that after 3 years of owning your Corolla and with expensive regular servicing they have practically replaced every component in your car.
If you service your Ford yourself or get it done by an independant mechanic then it will last forever. My parents have an XE with 800,000+ kays still original engine and transmission and this thing has done towing all over Australia.
I have an XE and an AU1 (supposedly the worst built Falcon) and these things spend their lives at the limit of mechanical tolerances and despite my best efforts my mrs still puts her foot down every morning while the cars are cold and these things don't miss a beat. The oil in my XE is IMMACULATE, my mate has a 96 Daihatsu and despite regular oil changes his oil is always black.
I don't look through rose coloured glasses I am very pedantic with regard to quality.
I will never buy a Sony Playstation because I bought one once and it didn't work so I took it straight back to the shop and have been an XBOX person since. The same for motorbikes I only buy Suzukis because they are the most reliable.
I guarantee you any Ford problems are human related and can be fixed by cleaning up the dealer network.