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Old 11-01-2021, 05:17 PM   #84
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Default Re: Twilight for the traditional ICE automobile

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Originally Posted by kypez View Post
It's like making solar panels. Yes, upfront energy is high but after that, it's great especially over its lifetime.
If electricity generation is renewable. The improvement is not nearly as good if that electricity has to come from coal/etc.

The drop in Li ion battery prices is slowing. They're likely to be only 30% cheaper in today's terms over the next decade. That's not quite enough to bring BEVs to the mass market. We really need to approach like for like pricing, ICE vs BEV, for people below the median income to seriously consider making the switch.

And for tangible environmental impact, we need BEVs to be affordable at all market segments, not just mid-upper price brackets. Also, with an average car age of 10-12 years around the world, and with the number of buyers who DONT buy new cars often or ever, we need a solution. BEV wont address that for many years.

Dont get me wrong, I'm not at all against BEVs. I just dont think its an either/or proposition whether the environment is concerned.
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