Transmission cooler idea.

[ten[A]cio[U]s]

I am throwing a few ideas around at the moment for when i bolt the turbo on.

I am going to fit the transmission cooler shortly but have a bit of an idea.

From what i have read on here, a lot of air enters the engine bay behind the AU headlights. When all is said and done, the battery will be in the boot.

I was thinking if a lot of air enters behind the headlight, would it be plausable to mount the tranny cooler there?

I am not too keen to mount it in front of the radiator as about 70% of its flow will already be cut off from the front mount.

Would this work mounting the transmission cooler behind the drivers side headlight where the battery once was?

[5.0 ED]

The airflow behind the headlight is no where near the amount that is at the front of the car. It'd help but its not going to be optumium.

[InfernoSR]

Originally Posted by 5.0whiteaughia

The airflow behind the headlight is no where near the amount that is at the front of the car. It'd help but its not going to be optumium.

I agree... depending the size of the intercooler... maybe you could mount the trans cooler one side of the intercooler...

[JC]

The intercooler won't stop air flow to the radiator - the air flows through it and then hits the radiator. Putting a small trans coller in the way is not going to affect much either, as air also flows through this and will also get to the radiator. Your thermo fans may come on more often than usual if there is any substantial loss of air flow, but that's what they are designed to do; come on when airflow alone is not sufficient to cool the radiator.

[ten[A]cio[U]s]

Originally Posted by JC

The intercooler won't stop air flow to the radiator - the air flows through it and then hits the radiator. Putting a small trans coller in the way is not going to affect much either, as air also flows through this and will also get to the radiator. Your thermo fans may come on more often than usual if there is any substantial loss of air flow, but that's what they are designed to do; come on when airflow alone is not sufficient to cool the radiator.

Ah ok. I was told that this would happen from installing an intercooler.

My friend and i installed a large cooler in his 300zx and it would run VERY hot compared to what it used to pre-cooler.

But if this is not an issue then thats good to hear. Thank you!

[b2tf]

Originally Posted by crazy-au

From what i have read on here, a lot of air enters the engine bay behind the AU headlights. .

This is only really applicable with XR models as they have the gap between the front bar and the headlights. It doesnt really apply to non XR models with the big boofy headlights.

[JoesAu]

have a look at the different trans cooler designs, in terms of shapes sizes, u can get ones that go long ways that are thinner etc, even a factory ford one the size of a novel should do it.

[tufLTD]

Originally Posted by crazy-au

I am throwing a few ideas around at the moment for when i bolt the turbo on.

I am going to fit the transmission cooler shortly but have a bit of an idea.

From what i have read on here, a lot of air enters the engine bay behind the AU headlights. When all is said and done, the battery will be in the boot.

I was thinking if a lot of air enters behind the headlight, would it be plausable to mount the tranny cooler there?

I am not too keen to mount it in front of the radiator as about 70% of its flow will already be cut off from the front mount.

Would this work mounting the transmission cooler behind the drivers side headlight where the battery once was?

Have you seen these type of coolers?
You could fit it below the intercooler.

[autickfordfairmont]

would in behind one of the driving lights be suitable. With the design of the TS50 Kit the driving light section would act as a big funnel, and with a 100mm driving light there is still plenty of room around the light for air to travel through.

[JC]

Originally Posted by autickfordfairmont

would in behind one of the driving lights be suitable. With the design of the TS50 Kit the driving light section would act as a big funnel, and with a 100mm driving light there is still plenty of room around the light for air to travel through.

Good luck mounting a 300 x 250 trans cooler there, but if you did, yes it would be fine.

[StealthAu]

Your car will run hotter then it does now with a front mount intercooler, not because it restricts air flow but because the air passing thru the radiator will be of a higher temp.

[JC]

Originally Posted by StealthAu

Your car will run hotter then it does now with a front mount intercooler, not because it restricts air flow but because the air passing thru the radiator will be of a higher temp.

But it sholdn't overheat - the thermos should kick in at the pre set temp to suck more air in through the radiator and intercooler combo. If you get a flash tuner, you can even set the temp that they do kick in to be lower than normal, but you do want the car running at a proper operating temp, so there should be no need to do this.

[StealthAu]

Right as usual JC, I didn't even think of the theromo's, but with cars in general, running hotter or the fans kicking in more often isn't as much to do with the restriction as it is to do with the heat exchange from the cooler.

[blackers10]

you could always run it at the bottom laying horizontally or on a slight angle and cut a duct into the stone deflector thingo if your still running one

just gotta be more careful of driveways and things that you dont rip it off

[ten[A]cio[U]s]

All are very good ideas,

I thought about trying to run a guide from the driving lights too the cooler but not 100% sure if the is the best idea either as more cutting will be required, which is something im trying to avoid.

There is a larger radiator from PWR that will fit in easy and will keep things cooler then the stock unit. This is worst case at the moment.

I will fit the transmission cooler behind the intercooler but in front of the radiator and see how this goes.

Is it better the keep a gap in between the coolers or is flush against each other a better idea?

[blackers10]

if i remember correctly a gap is best
your probably best off having the trans cooler up front not in between

and PWR radiators are very over priced and probably beyond your requirments

there was a thread on what radiator is best recently
talk to BLUEPRINT he will reccomend you somthing good

if you removed a driving light and ran some piping up into the front guard could you mount the cooler in there??
or up behind the grill?

[ten[A]cio[U]s]

Ah ok. I didn't know that about PWR's radiators. Rather interesting..

Well i guess worst case is after market of some sort.

I will go out and have a bit of a fiddle. Looking at some picture there might be room to squeeze it in behind the lights without causeing too many hassles..

As you can see in the picture the is a lot of space in there. The piping will run around then up under where the air box currently is. If i remove the lights and just run some piping as mentioned, this could work rather well..



Ill go and have a fiddle and see what i can come up with.

[JC]

There's nothing stopping you fitting it under the car, sort of up next to the transmission on an angle. It will be tucked out of the way, and the cooling lines will be shorter!

[ten[A]cio[U]s]

That too is an option. The car will be on a hoist in the next few days so i might have a sticky beak under there and check it out.

I just had a look then and there is plenty of room to mount the cooler behind the lights. im 99% sure that is wonr get in the road of anything. Just need to wait and see when the piping is in.

Thank you all for your ideas. Its very helpful!

[StealthAu]

Another option is ditch the front mount in favour of a w2a cooler, when set up right they are more effective with far less pressure drop across them.

[justa6]

on your driver's side you'll have an air filter there , if your cooler isn't to high i would have it up front straight behind your ford badge. you won't see it there and it will be getting max air flow and the coolest.
as for the thing getting hot, you shouldn't have any worries. my cooler blocks out the radiater 100% then a trans in front of that. the needle stay's in the norm always.

[Mechan1k]

Originally Posted by silverxr

on your driver's side you'll have an air filter there , if your cooler isn't to high i would have it up front straight behind your ford badge. you won't see it there and it will be getting max air flow and the coolest.
as for the thing getting hot, you shouldn't have any worries. my cooler blocks out the radiater 100% then a trans in front of that. the needle stay's in the norm always.

I was about to say mount it behind the grille (Ford badge) ... plenty of room there.

As for better radiators ... I run a ADRAD twin core on my work ute ... it works a charm ... take a while to warm up on cool mornings ... and COLD Winter morning it barely even makes it to the NORM range (if at all).

That's how good they work .... and only about $250 as well. Looks like a stock radiator ... only twice as thick.

[blackers10]

and your ute isnt exactly a slow one is it silverxr

[ten[A]cio[U]s]

So your still running the stock radiator silverxr?

If thats the case i have more then enough room above the intercooler. Where the grill is it will fit easy, i was just against it because of blocking the radiator.

If its not an issue then maybe problem solved!

[ronwest]

Rather than start a new thread, BP is going to have a look at my o/c and let me know if I can bypass the radiator... thanks mate.

[InfernoSR]

Ronwest... i assume you want to completly bypass the Radiator mounted Oil Cooler?

That one you have is a great sized unit to do just that...



That shows what i had in my XG ute... was enough for that (larger cooler)...

[ronwest]

Originally Posted by BLUEPRINT

Ronwest... i assume you want to completly bypass the Radiator mounted Oil Cooler?

That one you have is a great sized unit to do just that...

Yeah bypass radiator altogether.
I thought it would be good enough but it's good to have confirmation from someone in the game.

Thanks mate... cheques in the mail...

[InfernoSR]

Originally Posted by ronwest

Yeah bypass radiator altogether.
I thought it would be good enough but it's good to have confirmation from someone in the game.

Thanks mate... cheques in the mail...

No problems mate... just send the cheque in with one of your daughters

Oh, and BTW... when swapping over... it could be a good time to do some upgrades and mods... new hoses, clamps and some conduit to wrap the hoses together for looks.

[ronwest]

Originally Posted by BLUEPRINT

No problems mate... just send the cheque in with one of your daughters

Oh, and BTW... when swapping over... it could be a good time to do some upgrades and mods... new hoses, clamps and some conduit to wrap the hoses together for looks.

Yep, replacing hoses and clamps. Conduit...maybe, I'll see what I've got

[InfernoSR]

Originally Posted by ronwest

Yep, replacing hoses and clamps. Conduit...maybe, I'll see what I've got

Get the spiral cut stuff... handles the heat a bit better and doesnt wear on hard edges as easily.