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06-06-2007, 02:06 PM
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Hey guys,
i just found out yet another problem with the new P-plate laws i need to have 120 hours LOGGED before i can go for my P's but they never gave me or sent me a log book? that's really unfair i did not agree to these rules, i agreed to the ones that were out at the time, now i'm 2 and a half months from getting my P's and i have to log 120 hours!!! the only car im aloud to drive is my own and its going to be on and off the road... so this really isnt fair... is there an online one i can get???? or something??? because this is just stupid.... as you may have gathered im pretty darn ****ed off.... but can someone help BIG!me out??? |
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06-06-2007, 03:01 PM
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Bit lost as to what you mean? If you got your Learners licence they would have given you a logbook when you got it.
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06-06-2007, 03:03 PM
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The 'Stihl' Man
 
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First mistake was bringing this online, if your parents know you have done the time then back log it.
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06-06-2007, 03:19 PM
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Maybe I am missing something but these log books they talk of - can't you just fill in whatever you want?
It happens all the time in adult land with novated work cars...
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06-06-2007, 03:20 PM
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The 'Stihl' Man
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 Thats what I was getting at too, nothing to stress about.
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06-06-2007, 03:26 PM
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In the family since 1996
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you only have to follow the rules that were around when u got your L's and for that matter P's.
for example, when you got your L's, if there wasn't a law about having 120hrs logged then you do not have to follow that law. Same goes for people on their P's. Thats why from june the (1st?) anyone applying for their L's and P's will follow the new rules. My family just went through that with my younger brother not getting his P's in time and his car is a 289ci V8 XM coupe. which he can no longer drive when he gets his P's. |
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06-06-2007, 03:53 PM
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its driving me up the wall as i only found out today..... bloody government goes on an advertising blitz 2 months before the new laws come in to cover their butts.... |
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06-06-2007, 03:54 PM
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06-06-2007, 03:56 PM
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06-06-2007, 03:32 PM
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You cant at all. In fact the particular one I went too, logged the weather comdition every day, so if say you back logged on say the 8th of march, and you drove and wrote the weather conditions as "Sunny" and it was raining, they would give you a new book, and you start all over again. Bastard.
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06-06-2007, 03:54 PM
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06-06-2007, 03:30 PM
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So in other words if you get your L's before the 1st of july dont stress because it wont affect you. Its only a recommendation that you do 120 hours if you have alreay got your L's after the first it becomes a requirement for anyone who has not got them already.
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06-06-2007, 03:32 PM
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The 'Stihl' Man
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I thought this log book thing has been going on for a few years!
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06-06-2007, 03:36 PM
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Don't stress mate there are always ways around these things...
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06-06-2007, 03:45 PM
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Go to your local library and go thorugh the backlog of old newspapers
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06-06-2007, 04:16 PM
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Go to the Newsagent and buy a 30c exercise book, and write "my logbook" and your name on the front. It aint rocket science.
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06-06-2007, 05:19 PM
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You've only gotta do the 120hrs if you get your L's after 1st July 2007, otherwise its only 50, and yes the RTA would have given you a logbook or you were told to get one when you completed the DKT.
The log book isn't just hours either, you have to have a record of certain manouvers and skills completed before you can do the test. This is how it is in NSW anyway. Nathan
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06-06-2007, 05:22 PM
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you should have gotten a log book when you got your L's.
everybody knows this. surely your mates would have mentioned that they have their log books yada yada. it amazes me how you have gone almost 10 months without realising that you were supposed to have a log book. odd.
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06-06-2007, 07:35 PM
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in vic we have to be 18 to get our P's.... i'v just told my mates about it none of them have one either.... we wern't given on when we were issued with our permits.... maybe that could be my excuse???  :
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06-06-2007, 05:24 PM
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The 'Stihl' Man
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Surely you have had to do an assignment where you need to log what you have done over a certain time. Its just like that ;)
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06-06-2007, 08:00 PM
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Hey, heres an idea. why don't you actually drive for 120 hours and maybe the life you save may be your own.....
Why is it that so many think they are an expert driver the day they get their lerners permit? |
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06-06-2007, 08:18 PM
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my brother is supposed to go for hes ps on july 3rd.. are you saying that now he will have to do 120hrs driving even though he got his Ls last year before the rule came in
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06-06-2007, 10:00 PM
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i just cant cram all that driving in.... i've already had one serious accident you dont need to tell me how dangerous driving is.... im very lucky to still be alive. |
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06-06-2007, 10:04 PM
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06-06-2007, 10:09 PM
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my accident was because of my stupidty and ego... if any of you saw the "accident pics" thread then you will probably have seen the 528i BMW wagon that was totaled.... im no perfect driver but i have learnt a lot of things since my crash, my neighbour has been taking me for drives to show me a lot of stuff (accident avoidence tecniques, safe cornering tecniques ect ect) he is an X group C racer and did race in a few Group A races. helps having someone with that expierince teaching you.... the crash alone woke me up a LOT, made me a much more caucious driver and im constantly making myself knowlegable of situations that may arise... |
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06-06-2007, 08:48 PM
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^^^ nah its only if you get them on or after 1st july, i got a letter rom rta saying that it doesnt include me becauce i got mine bout 9 mounths ago
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06-06-2007, 08:59 PM
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Off the vicroads/arrivealive website for you to read' If you already have your L's dont worry you dont have to log 120 hours read the first paragraph
http://www.arrivealive.vic.gov.au/gls/120hours/
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06-06-2007, 10:04 PM
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06-06-2007, 09:01 PM
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and yet another link on the same site providing more info on L platers
http://www.arrivealive.vic.gov.au/c_youngGLS_3.html BTW it states at the top of the page "New learner requirements will apply from July 2007"
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