How to drift in an ED

[ILLaViTaR]

I've been drifting with some mates and I reckon it's fun as.

We done it in a Toyota Camry and he throws on the handbrake and turs the wheel.

I'd like to do it in my ED (in the right place of course) but he said it's different for Rear wheel drive vehicles.

Also my handbrake is an umbrella type which I'm unsure if it makes a difference.

So what's the best way to drift in my car?

It's a stock ED falcon classic.

[falzoony]

I'm guessing your talking about on a race track and not on a public road? round a corner throw it into first and give it some revs. but not on a public road. make sure you only do this on a race track

[bentles]

turn and hammer the throttle

[snypereb]

Originally Posted by bentles

turn and hammer the throttle

Easier with Manual, I feel for the NA Auto guys hehe!

[webby_191189]

boot it round the corner if its auto and hope it kicks back lol or if its manual dump the clutch. A stock ED wont be the best for drifting

[~EFhastE3~]

well mate as the previous posts mention go around the corner then hammer out of it in 1st and make sure you dont over correct!! the best way of doing this is by keeping the wheels angled the way you want the car to go! obviously if your rear end is drifting to the left you pull the wheel left hand down but make sure you dont pull it past the point you are heading!! otherwise you will over correct and spin out- over correction is the most common mistake made in drifting!! Good luck son!!

[Sick EB]

drift set-ups in e-series has been gone over a fair bit. its basically, suspension, power and money.

[DOC]

Originally Posted by ILLaViTaR

So what's the best way to drift in my car?
It's a stock ED falcon classic.

Put an old wooden door under each wheel and push it into the river

[-jjM-]

http://www.howstuffworks.com/

[CaRtZ]

stiffen up ur suspension a bit first, particularly the rear as u still want the front to grab the road (nolathane bushes maybe shortened or low flowing shocks). whack a camber kit on the front and give it no more than negative 2 degrees to start off with. then practice practice practice. its gunna be harder in an auto as somethimes it doesnt kick back into 1st quick enough if at all then u get understeer n ur in the grass.
as u get more of a feel for it fiddle with ur set-up (suspension, final drive gearing) but only change one thing at a time as u may go 1 step forward and 3 back

[Psycho Chicken]

hahahaha Camry drifting....ok.

And apparently no one knows the difference between over steer and drifting.

[private9]

Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

hahahaha Camry drifting....ok.

And apparently no one knows the difference between over steer and drifting.

Glad someone pointed out the obvious!

And illavitar, I somehow don't think your column shift auto, umbrella handbrake, bog stock 6 ED is going to be the best, or easiest thing to drift....

[Psycho Chicken]

Originally Posted by private9

And illavitar, I somehow don't think your column shift auto, umbrella handbrake, bog stock 6 ED is going to be the best, or easiest thing to drift....

Dirt ;) I could get my stock EA sideways on dirt. As for drifting, not a chance.

Drifting is being sideways before, during and after the corner. NOT kicking the end out by mashing the pedal half way through the corner to bring on a bit of over steer.

[bentles]

Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

Dirt ;) I could get my stock EA sideways on dirt. As for drifting, not a chance.

Drifting is being sideways before, during and after the corner. NOT kicking the end out by mashing the pedal half way through the corner to bring on a bit of over steer.

however thats about as close as hes gonna get without flipping from all the body roll.

[needfordspeed]

Originally Posted by bentles

turn and hammer the throttle

Originally Posted by bentles

however thats about as close as hes gonna get without flipping from all the body roll.

Bentles - Out of all the unlearned about drifting posts that stand out to me in this thread, yours standout most. Not only do you not know anything about drifting, you are wasting precious bandwidth by posting your lame attempts at humour. If you've got nothing postive or relevant don't post.

[needfordspeed]

Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

Dirt ;) I could get my stock EA sideways on dirt. As for drifting, not a chance.

Drifting is being sideways before, during and after the corner. NOT kicking the end out by mashing the pedal half way through the corner to bring on a bit of over steer.

Couldn't have put it better myself.

Depends if you just wanna go sideways, or if you want to actually drift. If you just want to go sideways, you only need two things:

-Power
-LSD or minispool

Manual would also help.

[yahoo189]

Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

Dirt ;) I could get my stock EA sideways on dirt. As for drifting, not a chance.

Drifting is being sideways before, during and after the corner. NOT kicking the end out by mashing the pedal half way through the corner to bring on a bit of over steer.

Agreed. Toyo Drift Exhibition.. they start getting the car sideways BEFORE the Corner. As for paddock fun handbrakes are not needed. Lightly tap the brake to transfer the weight over the front wheels, then turn and punch the accelerator. Rollin I think knows a fair bit about drifting so defiantly his input could help. I have worked on drift cars before and after hydraulic handbrakes and supercharging Nissan Silvia's, a little bit of fun oversteer (especially since you don't have and LSD do you?) is a much as your going to get to maintaining a "drift" Good luck though. I know when I started I was 180ing and all over the place. Its also good practice to know how the car feels going sideways, especially when your driving on a wet road and you go over and oil slick.. you don't have to be being a "hoon" to have a little bit of oversteer or an issue on a roundabout, as Im sure other e-series members have had.

[CaRtZ]

Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

hahahaha Camry drifting....ok.

And apparently no one knows the difference between over steer and drifting.

drifting is just controlled oversteer ;) so therefore u must oversteer to drift

[ILLaViTaR]

Thanks guys.

What speed should I be going when I put it in first?

It doesn't sound healthy for the transmission.

We drift on our mates paddock.

[xr8ute]

watch Best Motoring "Drift Bible" a few times.....getting the technique right will be a pretty good start.

[CaRtZ]

depends on the corner. if ur just stuffin around in an open paddock around cones or something id put it in at about 25km and hook it hard around the corner and mash the loud pedal at the same time and she should kick out. its not that unhealthy

[CaRtZ]

on ur paddock in the wet on grass u should be able to drift
lock it into first (b4 u go anywhere) approach ur marker at 30km or so, rip the handbrake (keep the button pulled in) let it kick out sideways, about 1/3 of the way around the corner release the hand brake and get on the accelerator(3/4) as ur hand moves down then grab the wheel and feather the throttle

[bArNsY]

we need a learn how to drift track day, a skid pan type set-up, looks like heaps of fun but could be costly if you stuff it up!

[CaRtZ]

Originally Posted by bArNsY

we need a learn how to drift track day, a skid pan type set-up, looks like heaps of fun but could be costly if you stuff it up!

the AFF skidpan day held at DECA in shepparton was probably ur best oppurtunity.

we should organise another one but call it Drifting Practice Day

[bArNsY]

Originally Posted by CaRtZ

the AFF skidpan day held at DECA in shepparton was probably ur best oppurtunity.

we should organise another one but call it Drifting Practice Day

I attended the fordmods skidpan day earlier this year at the police training grounds (near tulla airport) and we had an instructor that taught me some valuable lessons. I only had a open wheeler at the time but I had a great time without having to worry about losing my licence.

Is there a skid pan in melb other than at the police training grounds?
i'll put my hand up for the next skid pan day :

[bentles]

well trying to redeem myself after 10 seconds of searching i found this:
wikipedia article

there is even a ford ute in there (not drifting, but picking up smashed bumpers lol)

[mcflux]

lol @ going to wikipedia to learn Jedi Drift Control techniques

[Rollin]

I reckon!


Anyway, if you are drifting in a paddock you should be able to get the gist of it just from mucking about. I learnt quite a bit in my parents 1988 tarago, unbeknownst to them

The best way to get these cars to drift is to use a "scandanavian flick", because the handbrake is woefull at best, and very hard to pull up and release.

As others have said, put the car in first (auto) or second (manual) and approach the corner you wish to take, at a steady mid-throttle and at an appropriate speed. Start off slow so you get the feel for it.

As you come up to the corner, lift off while at the same time flicking the wheel AWAY from the corner briefly, then bringing it back hard in the direction of the corner, while at the same time nailing the gas.

On grass you will most likely have to liff of pretty quickly after that and countersteer big time while feathering the throttle.

As you get through to the end of the corner, start gradually lifting off to bring the back of the car in as you wind off lock.

Practice makes perfect

[CaRtZ]

seems we're drifting here should we get technical?
scandinavian flick = rallying
faint = drifting
although its the exact same thing lol ;)

mate we all apparently are experts but if ur gunna take anyone's advice take Rollin's.
just get out there, muck around, and learn by doing it

[Rollin]

Originally Posted by CaRtZ

seems we're drifting here should we get technical?
scandinavian flick = rallying
faint = drifting
although its the exact same thing lol ;)

Drifting is getting a car sidways as early as possible before a corner, sliding through it sideways, and leaving it sideways as well.

How that Initial Drift (tee hee hee) is initiated doesn't matter, there are many different ways:

- Feint drift (AKA scandanavian flick/scando) is the method I described above, using rough weight transfer to unsettle the rear of the car to get it to slide

- Braking drift. Come up to a corner REALLY hot and stand on the brakes. While the back is light, turn in as you lift off the brakes. Do it right and the back will come around and you will slide into the corner nicely. Very hard to do, because there is suck a fine line between coming in hot and coming in on re-entry, and leaving the track backwards.

- Handbrake. The normal one where you come up to a corner, reef the handbrake to initiate the slide then hold it with the gas.

- "Drop drift". Don't do it. It breaks stuff. Only crazy Japanese do it because they are sponsored. Come up to the corner and drop the outside wheels off the track hard, so the back of the car starts to slide mostly off the track before you aim for the apex.

There are some others but I cen't remember atm, they are the most used ones...