Holden local built four cylinder

Wretched · 28-11-2008, 01:16 AM

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/s...006301,00.html

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Article from: The Advertiser
PAUL GOVER, MELBOURNE/MICHAEL OWEN

November 27, 2008 12:30am

HOLDEN is planning to build its first four-cylinder car since the the 1980s at its Elizabeth plant under a deal worth up to $500 million to secure the company's future in Australia.
The new compact car is likely to be signed off in the next few months and would be built in Adelaide alongside the VE Commodore from 2011 or 2012.

It follows "high-level discussions" with Premier Mike Rann about the long-term future of the South Australian operation.

The new car, which would be about the same size as the Korean-made Holden Viva, is being pitched as a major export earner and could also be produced with a range of body styles, including an SUV.

Early details of the plan have emerged from sources in the U.S. and after discussions between Holden and local unions, although there is no confirmation from the company's Victorian-based Australian headquarters.

MethodX · 28-11-2008, 02:24 AM

Probably the new version of the Chev Cruze/Viva.
Hope it isnt.

Powdered Toast Man · 28-11-2008, 09:20 AM

Good for them, more Australian jobs is a good thing no matter the car the engine is for.

JMO · 28-11-2008, 09:22 AM

Good news for Australian workers and the industry as a whole.

Fairlane · 28-11-2008, 09:32 AM

Lets pray its a shortened Zeta platform car.

More likely than not it will be a local built Cruze Delta 2 platform FWD car.

SPK-250 · 28-11-2008, 12:49 PM

I cant vision it selling very well, but times may change.

vanman_75 · 28-11-2008, 01:23 PM

as long as it aint a shortened ecocrap like the 80s

Ghiadude · 28-11-2008, 03:11 PM

im gonna call it camira regardless of the badge lol

FalconXR6 · 28-11-2008, 03:46 PM

"alongside VE Commodore in 2011 / 2012"

You can't tell me that Holden are going to try and wring 6 years out that heap of garbage without an update are you???!!!

28-11-2008, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FalconXR6

"alongside VE Commodore in 2011 / 2012"

You can't tell me that Holden are going to try and wring 6 years out that heap of garbage without an update are you???!!!

What's this comment all about. Damn shame this model Commodore has a better designed rear compared to the BA - BG series Falcon. Don't wear tyres out as easy when you lower them. As for the front end, we won't compare them, especially when this is a Ford Forum, not a Commodore one

irlewy86 · 28-11-2008, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by stickybeek

What's this comment all about. Damn shame this model Commodore has a better designed rear compared to the BA - BG series Falcon. Don't wear tyres out as easy when you lower them. As for the front end, we won't compare them, especially when this is a Ford Forum, not a Commodore one

So what your saying is that the VE is to Falcon what AU was to the Commodore.

I like your thinking

uranium_death · 28-11-2008, 05:03 PM

I am sure that VE will have an update before then, with an improvement in fuel economy being a major focus.

I wonder whether this is merely in response to the plan of Focus being built here.

People will buy it because it's a Holden. Viva is an example, as is Barina.
People don't understand what they're buying apart from the badge.

vztrt · 28-11-2008, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by uranium_death

I wonder whether this is merely in response to the plan of Focus being built here.

Bingo, I wouldn't be surprised.

Also isn't there a rumour going around that the second shift at Holden is getting canned?

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Originally Posted by irlewy86

So what your saying is that the VE is to Falcon what AU was to the Commodore.

I like your thinking

Hey thats harsh, the AU isn't as ugly as the VE!!

**Fordman1** · 28-11-2008, 06:54 PM

From what I'm hearing, Holden lose a shift at Elizabeth at the end of Q1 2009, and that rumor is REALLY strong.

They are in strife, and have LOTS of VE's on grass. The G8 at it's current selling rate has about 260 days stock in the US....... YES that is correct !!!

The small car they are looking at assembling, is apparently the 2010 'Cruze'.

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com...vy-cruze-back/

Looks like a Daewoo to me.

This thing will get slaughtered by the 2011 Focus in dynamics etc, but then again it'll probably sell. I guess time will tell.

Sprint XR8 · 28-11-2008, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Barraxr8

The small car they are looking at assembling, is apparently the 2010 'Cruze'.

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com...vy-cruze-back/

Looks like a Daewoo to me.

This thing will get slaughtered by the 2011 Focus in dynamics etc, but then again it'll probably sell. I guess time will tell.

Looks like a Daewoo because it is a Daewoo.
The 2010 Chev Cruze is a rebadged 2009 Daewoo Lacetti.
Chevy Cruze Based Daewoo Lacetti Launches in Korea
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9081107....nches-in-korea

**Fordman1** · 28-11-2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by coupex

Looks like a Daewoo because it is a Daewoo.
The 2010 Chev Cruze is a rebadged 2009 Daewoo Lacetti.
Chevy Cruze Based Daewoo Lacetti Launches in Korea
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9081107....nches-in-korea

Thanks Coupex.

Mmmmmmm............you've got to wonder.

How can they justify the investment if it already tooled for manufacture in Korea ?

Maybe it's not this car that they are planning on building.................

phillyc · 28-11-2008, 08:37 PM

Holden continues with more spin. They don't have the funds to do this. It won't happen.

Holden are the automotive NSW Labor Party. Spin, spin, spin. But it's all bullcrap.

gozza · 19-12-2008, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by vztrt

Hey thats harsh, the AU isn't as ugly as the VE!!

One eyed denial

vztrt · 19-12-2008, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gozza

One eyed denial

It was a joke. Mind you I don't like the look of the VE. At least the AU had some nice looking models.

Rob's 76 Effy · 28-11-2008, 05:43 PM

Might be a new VE with an update Starfire engine

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Gobes32 · 28-11-2008, 07:11 PM

How long till everyone starts calling it "Torana"?

**Fordman1** · 28-11-2008, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Gobes32

How long till everyone starts calling it "Torana"?

If they're smart they'll 'Pull' that name out again and use it !!

Not sure if they'd use it on a "C" car or save it for a "D".

vztrt · 28-11-2008, 07:15 PM

No idea, check the just commodore forum. Probably in 3.2 seconds.

snappy · 28-11-2008, 07:19 PM

In the herald sun today 3/4 quaters of the page is on this .
It starts as holden may build a 4 cylinder motor car
Right down the bottom in a tiny square ford wins car of the year was not a happy snappy.

burnz · 28-11-2008, 08:18 PM

hasent holden allway's been building the family four and export to korea ??
then fit to deawoo.

DRU842 · 29-11-2008, 10:32 AM

Camira tooling is available in Korea.

Gobes32 · 29-11-2008, 11:56 AM

Maybe there is still camira tooling up at elizabeth, anyone fancy a brand new 1990 Camira?

Nikked · 29-11-2008, 01:37 PM

probally just end up being a epica, with a VE like front and rear...

Gobes32 · 19-12-2008, 11:59 AM

And the silence has been deafening ever since

Small car slated for production 2011?
Diesel HSV's
LPG Injection HSV's
Hybrid Commodore
Cylinder De Activation

There are other announcements but that's all I remember for now. Lot of R&D ahead for Holden who ironically retrenched half their engineering dept and who's parent company is on the verge of bankruptcy................

uranium_death · 19-12-2008, 01:31 PM

I personally don't like the looks of the VE in most forms.
While the original AU didn't particularly look great, the revised grilles and updated interiors made it far more palateable and in many circumstances, I prefer the look of the AU over the VE, which for its media coverage, would have to be the biggest abomination Australia has created in the past 20 years in the looks department (in my opinion).

The AU might not have been a shining light, but Ford has used the AU platform to create some cars that looked damn good.
Though the VE might be a from the ground up design, it still carries similarities to the VZ (roughly), but I think it's been done poorly.

As I said, people are entitled to their opinions, just like one's anus is allowed to (and probably does) stink.