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19-04-2011, 09:31 AM
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Volkswagen introduced its all-new Beetle design in New York today. It is only the third version of the car originally commissioned by Adolph Hitler almost 90 years ago to be Germany's answer to Ford's Model-T and a tool to cement allegiance from working class Germans.
Despite its sinister beginnings, the Beetle became one of the most enduring automotive icons of the last century, as well as arguably the most "loved" car in America. Volkswagen is again looking to the Beetle to stir up emotions and sales, and lead Americans back into VW showrooms as the company pushes to be one of the most dominant import makes in the U.S. in the company of Honda, Toyota and Nissan. "The U.S. is the most important market for Beetle, and it is a critical part of the new chapter we are trying to write for Volkswagen in the U.S. and worldwide," said Jonathan Browning, chief executive of Volkswagen of America. The 2012 Beetle is bigger than both its predecessors. In fact, it's more than three inches wider and six inches longer than the previous New Beetle. It is also slightly lower to the ground. Under the hood, the standard engine is a 2.5 liter, producing 200 horsepower, with turbo-charged 2.0 liter gas and diesel engines offered as well. The New Beetle TDI (diesel) is expected to get 29 mpg city/40 mpg highway, with a combined fuel economy of 33 mpg. Both an automatic and manual transmission will be offered. The sleeker, sportier version of the Beetle, a departure from the New Beetle introduced in 1998, was created to not only broaden the car's appeal in the U.S., but also to be a bigger seller in China and Europe. Style That is Womb-like Starting with the original and continuing with the first reinterpretation launched in 1998 -- the "New Beetle" -- the ovoid car has always been a lovable study in arches and circles. Some psychologists even posit that our love of the Beetle has to do with feeling like we are back in the womb. This 21st century design continues in that tradition (how could it not if it's to be called Beetle?), but with some attention to styling that is meant to attract more men to the car than the last model. The 1999 New Beetle was so bulbous in appearance, it was practically the vehicular interpretation of a breast. And men, it turns out, may like a breast, but they don't much want to be caught driving one. More than 70% of the New Beetle buyers were women. "We started with the original Beetle for inspiration in the studio," says Volkswagen chief designer Klaus Bischoff. "We started from scratch, not from the New Beetle and created a much sportier, more masculine car." The hope is that the new Beetle will also lure younger buyers. The average age buyer for the 1999 New Beetle was also old enough to have driven one of the originals to Woodstock. Now that Baby Boomers who grew up as kids with original Beetles are well into their fifties and older, this New Beetle needs to attract some of the American Idol generation -- the ones that say "Who?," when a contestant is compared with Janis Joplin.
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19-04-2011, 09:40 AM
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looks the same as the previous 'new beetle'... that is: ugly
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19-04-2011, 09:53 AM
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Really not all that new is it?
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19-04-2011, 10:01 AM
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19-04-2011, 07:33 PM
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19-04-2011, 12:12 PM
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19-04-2011, 01:06 PM
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21-04-2011, 11:17 AM
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As for the beetle, trying to look like a 911 in the front? |
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19-04-2011, 10:07 AM
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That looks heaps better than the old one, more streamline and modern...
Dont know about the womb comment though..that would put me off...LOL
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19-04-2011, 06:18 PM
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19-04-2011, 10:09 AM
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still not a car that I like but it does look more mature and refined.
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19-04-2011, 10:17 AM
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It looks sooo much better! From every angle! Sit this one and the previous, next to each other, and this one looks fairly different...
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19-04-2011, 10:27 AM
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Looks pretty good to me - 2.5 litre, alleged 200 horsepower at the back, turbo option - can it go round a corner - can some of the goodies filter down from Porsche, brake packages etc.
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19-04-2011, 10:35 AM
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Porsche are now leading development of all sports cars and big luxury sedans within the VW group. http://www.worldcarfans.com/11012082...cars-and-large
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19-04-2011, 12:10 PM
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19-04-2011, 06:06 PM
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Overall I much prefer it over the previous model, but that said I don't really care about it either way! lol |
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19-04-2011, 06:20 PM
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hmmf.
At least it isn't based on a '97 Golf platform anymore, I assume. Still it will be a ridiculously overpriced retro pussbucket and the wannabee yuppies will lap it up. Just like the last one. |
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19-04-2011, 07:09 PM
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19-04-2011, 07:44 PM
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At least they are getting rid of that stupid flower sticking out of the dash.
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19-04-2011, 09:17 PM
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Looks like its been squished down a bit. The back end treatment has a bit of a 'Chrysler Crossfire' look to it. Will be interesting to see how well it sells.
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20-04-2011, 01:39 AM
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I drove one of the 1999 models in 2002 and it was, err, interesting to drive and be seen in
 The dashboard was weird where the front of it appeared to be so far away from the windscreen.
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20-04-2011, 09:54 AM
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The 'corporate' opening on the front bumper reminds me of the Beetles I used to see kicking around when I was a kid (the opening is located where the small chrome/black plastic bumpers used to sit)
I reckon this model looks more expensive and sporty than the last one which looked cheap and cheerful. |
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20-04-2011, 09:58 AM
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I'll take an oval window fitted with chromed early Porsche pressed steel wheels with a four port motor loaded with a hot cam and a couple of downdraft Webers, thank you...
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21-04-2011, 04:25 PM
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Meh, I think it's lost the plot a bit... and looking a bit tired already.
Just seems that there are no really "clasic lines" like the original. You know what I mean? LOL kind of looks stubby, agreed on the womb - nothing like this thing below 
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LOL.../plug
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22-04-2011, 12:39 AM
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Yank magazines reckon that there will be an R type version. But it will be Sirroco R (FWD) rather than Golf R (aWD)
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