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Old 14-02-2012, 01:02 PM   #1
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What does everyone think??

http://www.caradvice.com.au/158736/k...lagship-sedan/
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Old 14-02-2012, 01:05 PM   #2
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Sketches look nice, very Maserati front with a dash of Jaguar rear.
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Old 14-02-2012, 01:07 PM   #3
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If it's anything like the current Optima, should be a nice looking ride.
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Old 14-02-2012, 09:14 PM   #4
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If it's anything like the current Optima, should be a nice looking ride.
But a bucket of shiit to drive
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But a bucket of shiit to drive
Huh? Driven one? Read a review? I'd suggest you do...
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Huh? Driven one? Read a review? I'd suggest you do...
Yeah it came last in Wheel's latest mid sizer megatest.
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Old 14-02-2012, 09:53 PM   #7
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Yeah it came last in Wheel's latest mid sizer megatest.
Wheels. The same magazine that gave their COTY award to the Honda CRZ?
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Yeah it came last in Wheel's latest mid sizer megatest.
Yet came second (880 points) in "Australia's Best Cars 2012" Magazine behind the VW Jetta (906 points) for best medium car under 50k. 3rd was the Hyundai i40 (864 points).

Makes you wonder... doesn't it.

And before anyone says the team are pro this or that, or bias... they also gave best large car under 50K to the Falcon EcoLpi.

We need the Koreans, even though many are not a fan. It keeps the competition on their toes IMO.
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Old 14-02-2012, 10:30 PM   #9
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Huh? Driven one? Read a review? I'd suggest you do...
I've driven them on several occasions, everytime they left me feeling wanting in regards to engine performance, steering feels disconnected and they have terrible front and rear visibility. I'd even go as far as saying the Cerato and Rio gave me more driving enjoyment.

I don't mind that sketch though...
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steering feels disconnected and they have terrible front and rear visibility.
So its like a commodore?
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love it

although the optima came last in wheels' mid-size megatest...
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although the optima came last in wheels' mid-size megatest...
Yeah, I guess you like it or you don't, I saw it got the thumbs up in last weekends Courier Mail against 3 others? VW, Mazda, Toyota I think.
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Old 14-02-2012, 01:19 PM   #13
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Old 14-02-2012, 02:38 PM   #14
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Yeah I always find it interesting when different writeups give a vastly different opinion.

And thats what they are folks, opinions.
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Old 14-02-2012, 06:31 PM   #15
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Yeah I always find it interesting when different writeups give a vastly different opinion.

And thats what they are folks, opinions.

Yes but I'd value some opinions higher than others, and when it comes to judging a car on its merits, a newspaper auto section is the last place I'd go for "opinions." The likes of Jez Spinks is living proof of that!


The Kia looks good, front end proportions still look FWD, but other than that I can see the similarities with the BMW 7.

It boggles the mind to think where these Korean companies are going to be in a few years...
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Old 14-02-2012, 09:12 PM   #16
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Front is very very BMW.. Looks cool though, again, Korean cars are making a name for themselves.

I join with others in saying that korean cars are now becoming Jap alternatives..
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Am I the only one who thought it could have been a 7 series BMW?
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Am I the only one who thought it could have been a 7 series BMW?
yeah i think it really looks like a bmw designer drawings. Bit hard to like or disslike in that form tho.....thats NOTHING like what a real shell will look like....way too early to judge for good or bad...looks alright tho
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Am I the only one who thought it could have been a 7 series BMW?
No; that was also my first thought, how very current-BMW-like it was.
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Look like they will be on a winner here. Hope it comes to aus
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Look like they will be on a winner here. Hope it comes to aus
No RHD planned yet...


Probally a good thing.
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Probally a good thing.
Yeah, this and the Genesis sedan would absolutely slaughter the private market for the (top-level) Falcon and Commodore! ;)
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Old 14-02-2012, 05:49 PM   #23
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A Ford badge would fit nicely in place of the oval Kia badge. I would. No worse than driving a late 90s Kia Festiva.
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Interesting for the Falcon doomsayers how Kia percieves a demand for a global RWD sedan though, isn't it...
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Interesting for the Falcon doomsayers how Kia percieves a demand for a global RWD sedan though, isn't it...
More and more it makes Ford look like non-committal limp-wristed losers.

Still no indication of a RWD sedan Lincoln. And soon... Hyundai/Kia will be selling two in Ford's own turf.
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Looks good. I know the Genesis in America has a 4.6 V8. Any ideas what this would have?
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At least we don't have to worry about Lincoln coming out with a RWD car!
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At least we don't have to worry about Lincoln coming out with a RWD car!
Go find another horn to blow, this thread has nothing to do with Lincoln...
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Go find another horn to blow, this thread has nothing to do with Lincoln...
Sure it does. It's all about what a car manufacturer finds necessary for building credibility and moving upmarket.

Kia thinks it needs rear-wheel drive. Lincoln thinks it doesn't.
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Sure it does. It's all about what a car manufacturer finds necessary for building credibility and moving upmarket.

Kia thinks it needs rear-wheel drive. Lincoln thinks it doesn't.
Yeah, Kia, not Lincoln. Seriously, if it's such a problem why don't you go start up an Occupy Dearborn rally?!
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