New anti-hooning laws sees 40 cars a day taken off Queensland roads

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New anti-hooning laws sees 40 cars a day taken off Queensland roads

Sarah Vogler
The Courier-Mail
December 22, 2013 12:00AM


POLICE are taking up to 40 cars a day off the road under the State's tough new anti-hooning laws.

New figures show police have handed out more than 1300 charges a week since the legislation came into force on November 1 and have impounded or confiscated the plates of at least 1763 cars.

Under the new laws anyone caught people burnouts, donuts, drifting or other hooning behaviour can have their vehicles taken off the road for three months while a slew of other offences can see drivers lose their car for at least a week.

Any follow-up within five years will result in the hoon's car being forfeited and sold or crushed.

Police have so far taken at least 634 vehicles off the road for the full three months while a further 189 are set to be either sold or crushed.

A further 940 drivers had their cars seized or their numberplates confiscated for a week after being charged with hooning offences.


Logan and the Gold Coast had the highest number of impoundments and numberplate confiscations with more than 354 cars taken off the road in just 45 days including 188 in Logan.

More than 280 cars were confiscated across Brisbane and more than 343 were impounded across the central police district which takes in Mackay, the Sunshine Coast and the Capricornia and Wide Bay regions.

It comes after police handed out more than 7800 charges under the new laws for everything from dangerous operation of a motor vehicle to street racing, evading police and speeding at more than 40km/h over the legal speed limit.

Acting Police Minister Andrew Powell said the new laws were sending a message to hooning drivers. (My Comment : if so, why are they still doing it !!)

"The people of Queensland said they have had enough of people treating our roads like race tracks and shattering the peace in our suburbs," Mr Powell said.


"This Government has listened ... and introduced tough new laws targeting dangerous drivers to ensure the safety of all Queenslanders.

"If you are willing to put your lives and the lives of other Queenslanders at risk by your reckless driving, you will be stopped."

Between November 1 and December 15 almost 3100 charges were handed out to those caught driving while unlicensed.

Almost one car a day was found to be illegally modified and more than 210 drivers were caught speeding at 40km/h or more over the legal speed limit.

About four drivers were caught street racing and 130 were charged after being caught doing burnouts.

About 334 charges were handed out for evading police, 42 for dangerous operation of a vehicle and 43 for driving without due care and attention.

Acting Assistant Commissioner Michael Keating, from the Road Policing Command, said the legislation was aimed to catching out reckless drivers who wilfully break the law and endanger the lives of others on the road.

"We saw matter earlier this week where a gentleman ... was driving at 179km/h in a 100km/h zone and he was driving with a blood alcohol concentration in the mid-range (. 74% BAC)." he said.

"That's wilful behaviour. It's just irresponsible, it's reckless and it's dangerous and this legislation is aimed at addressing that sort of behaviour."
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/q...-1226788095026

[graham_h]

They never seem to catch the 50+ morons a day I see texting at 110 km/h on my five minute freeway drive each day. Blasted the horn at one chick a couple of days ago and she nearly stuck it in the wall.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by graham_h

They never seem to catch the 50+ morons a day I see texting at 110 km/h on my five minute freeway drive each day. Blasted the horn at one chick a couple of days ago and she nearly stuck it in the wall.

I'd smack you for that, you're bad as the chick texting!!!

[becchops]

Originally Posted by trublu

I'd smack you for that, you're bad as the chick texting!!!

Better her put it in the wall, than run over someone

[graham_h]

Originally Posted by trublu

I'd smack you for that, you're bad as the chick texting!!!

So I should let her weave straight in front of me and kill me and my family ?

She only ***** herself because she was looking at her phone in her lap and had no idea I was there.

Shouldn't we all be paying attention to......oh, I dunno ...
DRIVING !!!!

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by graham_h

So I should let her weave straight in front of me and kill me and my family ?

She only ***** herself because she was looking at her phone in her lap and had no idea I was there.

Shouldn't we all be paying attention to......oh, I dunno ...
DRIVING !!!!

Sorry, that I can understand..... I took it another way.

[XW-BAXR6T]

Originally Posted by trublu

I'd smack you for that, you're bad as the chick texting!!!

ide be spanking her & then fine her big time, she shouldn't be texting & placing her self & others lives in danger.

He wouldnt have to do that had she not been texting in the first place.

Naughty women she deserves a good spanking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htmt9csU7_U


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[nstg8a]

75% of the cars impounded were for being unregistered....

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by nstg8a

75% of the cars impounded were for being unregistered....

I'm all for it!!!

[Maka]

I support clampdowns on hooning anywhere but seriously, is parts of this legislation constituional? Has it been tested & is it Ricky Muirs area of expertise?


cheers, Maka

[Bowser22]

Towies will be happy. Are the impound yards run/owned privately or the the government?

[damo6]

yep, yet another qld tory gummint letting the jackboot element of the qld cops get their way,shades of joh here.

[barnz_xr8]

the police make the laws then police them?? that sounds like a police state too me

[Byooty]

Originally Posted by barnz_xr8

the police make the laws then police them?? that sounds like a police state too me

Governments enact the law in parliament and the police enforce the law, its been that way for 2000 years since the Greeks invented democracy and parliament.

[xxx000]

This is a good news story guys

The attitude on here is amazing, so negative towards almost anything

The glass is half full NOT half empty as some on here seem to believe

[damo6]

Originally Posted by xxx000

This is a good news story guys

The attitude on here is amazing, so negative towards almost anything

The glass is half full NOT half empty as some on here seem to believe

No it's not,the laws as they stand now are too one sided.you only have to be suspected of doing a burn out and your car can be gone,no court process,no say at all in the matter.the new laws which came out recently are designed so the judicial system is bypassed as opposed beforehand where you went to court to show cause. I have a workmate that accidentally chirped his wheels changing into second from a set of lights,cop going the other way nabs him, 4 court appearances later workmate got to keep his car but at a considerable financial cost to him,that was under the old laws.I'm all for getting ********* off the road,they make the rest of us pay for their stupidity.but these laws are ridiculously biased towards the police.what if workmates incident happens again,what hope has one got of saying it was accidental? I'm not being negative by the way,I just believe in fairness

[Shonky.]

Originally Posted by xxx000

This is a good news story guys

The attitude on here is amazing, so negative towards almost anything

The glass is half full NOT half empty as some on here seem to believe

Wow

Always wondered if anyone believes the spin

[irish2]

Originally Posted by xxx000

This is a good news story guys

The attitude on here is amazing, so negative towards almost anything

The glass is half full NOT half empty as some on here seem to believe

If you have driven a turbo falcon, you would know how hard it is to not break traction in the wet. I am not talking driving sideways up the road, but trying to get off the line faster than grandma in her corolla will see the traction light flashing away, and very slow acceleration taking place.

[ford man xf]

What is classed as hooning in QLD? Because the term "hooning" in Victoria is ridiculous, they use the law to justify almost anything, if you have an extra passenger in the car (which I don't condone) it is classed as hooning and you get your car impounded.

[Xauterus]

"and shattering the peace in our suburbs"

I wonder how they fix it afterwards if it is shattered?

[blackf6]

"We saw matter earlier this week where a gentleman ... was driving at 179km/h in a 100km/h zone and he was driving with a blood alcohol concentration in the mid-range (. 74% BAC)."
Had to get home before he got busted drink driving.

[tezxr8man]

Originally Posted by teak81

"We saw matter earlier this week where a gentleman ... was driving at 179km/h in a 100km/h zone and he was driving with a blood alcohol concentration in the mid-range (. 74% BAC)."
Had to get home before he got busted drink driving.

For me this isn't hooning, it was far from it more like straight up endangering lives.
Funny thing is that he wouldn't have had his car taken off of him with the new laws because you have to have to be caught 4 times I think high range drink driving before your car is confiscated, stupid rules aye yet if you drive a car with a loud exhaust that's 3 months straight up.

What the stats fail to tell you is how many of these fines were just simply bogus and given out just because the cop could and was having a bad day??
For example the street racing could have been simply two nice cars at the lights beside each other( not saying they weren't racing either), I have seen this happen 1st hand once or twice before

[Trump]

If a proper constitutional challenge were to me mounted, every single piece of legislation relating to impoundment would be rendered null and void.

That is of course, contingent on us actually owning our cars...

[Byooty]

Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

If a proper constitutional challenge were to me mounted, every single piece of legislation relating to impoundment would be rendered null and void.

That is of course, contingent on us actually owning our cars...

How so?
Please enlighten us all as I need to know?

[Trump]

Originally Posted by Byooty

How so?
Please enlighten us all as I need to know?

What the police are doing (with the backing of the govco apparatchik) is legalised theft. All it would take is a lawyer (a QC of some flavour) to get caught out breaking traction in his Euro sports car and have his car impounded for xx days. They would be onto the case quicksmart and realise the color of law isn't the law.

I am no lawyer, but my perusal of the Victorian legislation related to impoundment makes no mention where it derives its power from (as in precedent or existing legislation). For all intents and purposes, it appears to exist just because, drawing its power from goverment decree and nothing else.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

What the police are doing (with the backing of the govco apparatchik) is legalised theft. All it would take is a lawyer (a QC of some flavour) to get caught out breaking traction in his Euro sports car and have his car impounded for xx days. They would be onto the case quicksmart and realise the color of law isn't the law.

I am no lawyer, but my perusal of the Victorian legislation related to impoundment makes no mention where it derives its power from (as in precedent or existing legislation). For all intents and purposes, it appears to exist just because, drawing its power from goverment decree and nothing else.

Yeah fancy that, governments enact legislation, it becomes law that people have to obey,
police are duty bound to enforce it, people break it and courts are compelled to punish via prescribed penalties..

I think the Qld government and police are waiting for the first silk to try his luck, no one seems eager to make a case of it....

[Trump]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Yeah fancy that, governments enact legislation, it becomes law that people have to obey,
police are duty bound to enforce it, people break it and courts are compelled to punish via prescribed penalties..

I think the Qld government and police are waiting for the first silk to try his luck, no one seems eager to make a case of it....

One of the basic tenets of common law (which govco claims is the basis for all legislation) is that a law can't be broken to enforce another law. Having already declared that taking one's property without permission is theft and punishable under common law, then enacting forfeiture legislation is unlawful as it violates said common law relating to theft.

[rancidpunx]

I would actually like to see the actual break down of the stats rather than a press release to the media. Of the 7000 offences how many are actually from "Hooning" such at a P Plater doing skids on an industrial estate or is it actually 7000 offences that have been lumped into the Hooning bracket to bolster the figures. To me it reads like the government and and police are giving themselves a big pat on the back and look at the jolly good work we are doing. All the while serious crime is on the rise but the sheeple are distracted with this.

[Byooty]

Originally Posted by rancidpunx

All the while serious crime is on the rise but the sheeple are distracted with this.

But the sheeple are far easier to catch than he bikie gang members......

[graham_h]

When are the moronic law makers going to realise we need much stricter driver training and testing before kids are allowed on the road. Ask any German if they'd give up their licence ?
It's so damn hard to get.