Coincidence Increase in Mondeo Ads ???

csv8 · 26-09-2016, 11:03 PM

Mondeo hasn't been advertised for sometime.Falcon comes to an end, Mondeo ads start !! Coincidence? No way can the Mondeo replace the Falcon..

Brazen · 26-09-2016, 11:12 PM

To be honest, I think the market has moved on from these type of cars... Even I'm starting too. So a bit suprised to hear there are ads for them.

I was checking out the new model Tiguan and the salesman was saying even though the Passat is better value and a lot bigger than the Tiguan no one wants them over a SUV.

Adamz Ghia · 26-09-2016, 11:35 PM

I'd go a Mondeo as long as there was a Ranger/ Navara type car in the family. Drove one in the States and they're a very nice piece of kit.

R12RT · 27-09-2016, 01:16 AM

Ford will likely tell you that they haven't been pushing the Mondeo due to supply issues from the factory. I had to wait seven months for delivery of a Diesel Hatch.

When I took delivery of my car in early June a salesperson told me that they were expecting that supply of the Mondeo would free up in a few months. Cooincidentally about when Ford ceases manufacture of the Falcon.

I don't buy into the whole SUV concept. For my purpose I am unable to see their advantage over a vehicle like the Mondeo.

hackney · 02-10-2016, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by R12RT

Ford will likely tell you that they haven't been pushing the Mondeo due to supply issues from the factory. I had to wait seven months for delivery of a Diesel Hatch.

When I took delivery of my car in early June a salesperson told me that they were expecting that supply of the Mondeo would free up in a few months. Cooincidentally about when Ford ceases manufacture of the Falcon.

I don't buy into the whole SUV concept. For my purpose I am unable to see their advantage over a vehicle like the Mondeo.

Must admit,I didn't "buy" into the "SUV" thing either,but...I sold a XR6 Ecolpi ute to buy a Qashqai never ever thought I would but there you go.But I still have a "traditional" sedan as well.And the Qashqai isn't half bad,well built & finished off certainly better than any Ford I have seen.These things are built in the UK where they "pump" out 1,200 a day!Cheers

BLACKVE · 02-10-2016, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by R12RT

Ford will likely tell you that they haven't been pushing the Mondeo due to supply issues from the factory. I had to wait seven months for delivery of a Diesel Hatch.

Correct, ford have changed a bit now, they like orders to be placed for cars rather than sitting in yards. wait time are longer

Misses runs her work fleet 200+ and they have deal with ford(gold or platinum etc) but some wait times for rangers and mondoes are extreme 7 months plus

SumoDog68 · 27-09-2016, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Brazen

To be honest, I think the market has moved on from these type of cars... Even I'm starting too. So a bit suprised to hear there are ads for them.

I was checking out the new model Tiguan and the salesman was saying even though the Passat is better value and a lot bigger than the Tiguan no one wants them over a SUV.

Car salesman will say anything to sell a car :-)

Nikked · 27-09-2016, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by csv8

No way can the Mondeo replace the Falcon..

It will replace the falcon in some aspects. Its the same size, has 4 doors and seats 5. It will also tow your boat or caravan...

It will replace it enough in lieu of a direct replacement.

Wretched · 27-09-2016, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikked

It will replace the falcon in some aspects. Its the same size, has 4 doors and seats 5. It will also tow your boat or caravan...

It will replace it enough in lieu of a direct replacement.

Yep, if we were looking at replacing one our cars it would be a Mondeo, wagon preferably but hatch it good enough too.
Heaps of room and a huge boot. More than capable.

BLUEYBA · 27-09-2016, 08:44 AM

I wish there was a more sporty option of the Mondeo. Something that makes it standout from the others

adz137 · 27-09-2016, 08:47 AM

I would definitely get the AWD Turbo V6 (242kw) version. But last time i checked they were not coming to Australia, bummer.

csv8 · 27-09-2016, 08:56 AM

Nikked..Limited towing capacity..only 1600kgs...not many caravans that light..maybe camper trailers...

Towing capacity (kg) - TDCi
Mondeo Ambiente Hatch Mondeo Ambiente Wagon Mondeo Trend Hatch Mondeo Trend Wagon
Maximum towing capacity (braked) 47 1600 1600 1600 1600
Maximum towing capacity (unbraked) 48 750 750 750 750

Nikked · 27-09-2016, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by csv8

Nikked..Limited towing capacity..only 1600kgs...not many caravans that light..maybe camper trailers...

Towing capacity (kg) - TDCi
Mondeo Ambiente Hatch Mondeo Ambiente Wagon Mondeo Trend Hatch Mondeo Trend Wagon
Maximum towing capacity (braked) 47 1600 1600 1600 1600
Maximum towing capacity (unbraked) 48 750 750 750 750

Seem's to do the job.

http://www.practicalcaravan.com/revi...30-ford-mondeo

mik · 28-09-2016, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikked

Seem's to do the job.

http://www.practicalcaravan.com/revi...30-ford-mondeo

yeah you possibly can tow with the mondeo , but you very rarely if ever see a van behind a modeo , to be honest , i dont think they would hack it ..... i could be wrong though .
on the other hand , it is nice to have a nice big car like the falcon with heavy diff and irs down the back and a large heavy and torquey low stress engine up the front ,
the biggest trip i did with my falcon i did 5000 k`s over a couple of weeks towing a heavy old van loaded to the hilt and with aero dynamics of a cabover kenworth in summer in 40 + degrees heat , the falcon did not miss a beat .
and it towed like it was on rails .

Itsme · 29-09-2016, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by csv8

Nikked..Limited towing capacity..only 1600kgs...not many caravans that light..maybe camper trailers...

Towing capacity (kg) - TDCi
Mondeo Ambiente Hatch Mondeo Ambiente Wagon Mondeo Trend Hatch Mondeo Trend Wagon
Maximum towing capacity (braked) 47 1600 1600 1600 1600
Maximum towing capacity (unbraked) 48 750 750 750 750

1600Kg for diesel, 1200kg for petrol, not much of a tow vehicle to brag about.

simon varley · 27-09-2016, 09:14 AM

unfortunately it looks like there will be a gap in Ford tow capability between the 1600kg of Mondeo and the 3000kg+ of Ranger/Everest. Even if Edge comes I don't imagine it will have anything much more than Mondeo.

for a non-tow car the Mondeo is awesome and IMO beats Falcon hands down - if only because of wagon/hatch options

BLUEYBA · 27-09-2016, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by simon varley

unfortunately it looks like there will be a gap in Ford tow capability between the 1600kg of Mondeo and the 3000kg+ of Ranger/Everest. Even if Edge comes I don't imagine it will have anything much more than Mondeo.

for a non-tow car the Mondeo is awesome and IMO beats Falcon hands down - if only because of wagon/hatch options

its a pity with the towing. From my point of view I don't want to buy an SUV to be able to tow more. I prefer a sedan/hatch that can tow large weights

Mercury Bullet · 27-09-2016, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BLUEYBA

its a pity with the towing. From my point of view I don't want to buy an SUV to be able to tow more. I prefer a sedan/hatch that can tow large weights

And most if not all the new SUV's are front wheel drive if they aren't 4wd.

FWD is useless for towing.

malazn mafia · 27-09-2016, 09:18 AM

Nobody wants the Mundano. The Japs and the Koreans have this segment stitched up, there is no point fighting . In the States the latest Fusion (their local name for the Mundano) is a rare sight compared to the ocean of whitegoods current gen Camries, Sonatas and Kia Optimas.. The new Exploder however is an absolute Gem. Drove one for 3500 miles across the U.S. at speeds of up to 130MPH and its handling, performance and manners were impeccable. The interior is very Unamerican and looks like something Ford Aus would have designed as Territory Gen2 if given the funds . Previously I thought this type of performance and refinement were only heard of driving an X5 or a Territory, but the yanks have definitely come a long way since the early 2000s. A bit of Australian input in the works perhaps..

Wretched · 27-09-2016, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by malazn mafia

Nobody wants the Mundano. The Japs and the Koreans have this segment stitched up, there is no point fighting . In the States the latest Fusion (their local name for the Mundano) is a rare sight compared to the ocean of whitegoods current gen Camries, Sonatas and Kia Optimas.. The new Exploder however is an absolute Gem. Drove one for 3500 miles across the U.S. at speeds of up to 130MPH and its handling, performance and manners were impeccable. The interior is very Unamerican and looks like something Ford Aus would have designed as Territory Gen2 if given the funds . Previously I thought this type of performance and refinement were only heard of driving an X5 or a Territory, but the yanks have definitely come a long way since the early 2000s. A bit of Australian input in the works perhaps..

When I was there in 2014 I saw them and the Edge everywhere.
According to the link below Fusion sales are doing alright.
http://www.autoblog.com/2016/07/25/f...s-los-angeles/
http://www.autonews.com/article/2014...n-fatter-deals

**Giant Cranium** · 27-09-2016, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by malazn mafia

Nobody wants the Mundano. The Japs and the Koreans have this segment stitched up, there is no point fighting . In the States the latest Fusion (their local name for the Mundano) is a rare sight compared to the ocean of whitegoods current gen Camries, Sonatas and Kia Optimas.. The new Exploder however is an absolute Gem. Drove one for 3500 miles across the U.S. at speeds of up to 130MPH and its handling, performance and manners were impeccable. The interior is very Unamerican and looks like something Ford Aus would have designed as Territory Gen2 if given the funds . Previously I thought this type of performance and refinement were only heard of driving an X5 or a Territory, but the yanks have definitely come a long way since the early 2000s. A bit of Australian input in the works perhaps..

fusion rare sight?

they are bloody everywhere! just not as many as the fridge called camry

malazn mafia · 27-09-2016, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Giant Cranium

fusion rare sight?

they are bloody everywhere! just not as many as the fridge called camry

Previous Gen Fusions (with the triangle AU-ish lights) are bloody everywhere, and by goodness they are very Ugly. F-Trucks and 2005+ Mustangs dominate the roads by a large margin. Explorers, Edges and Escapes are everywhere, and the GM SUV's and pickups and Chrysler/Jeep products of all sorts are well represented on the roads. Focus and Mondeo seemed less common. Strangely Taurus isn't real common, apart from police and emergency use. The Holden Commodore was an absolute failure in the US, I can count on one hand how many I saw in the US in 3 weeks.

**Giant Cranium** · 27-09-2016, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by malazn mafia

Previous Gen Fusions (with the triangle AU-ish lights) are bloody everywhere, and by goodness they are very Ugly. F-Trucks and 2005+ Mustangs dominate the roads by a large margin. Explorers, Edges and Escapes are everywhere, and the GM SUV's and pickups and Chrysler/Jeep products of all sorts are well represented on the roads. Focus and Mondeo seemed less common. Strangely Taurus isn't real common, apart from police and emergency use. The Holden Commodore was an absolute failure in the US, I can count on one hand how many I saw in the US in 3 weeks.

f trucks for the win, i drive one everyday and love it. the 6.7 power stroke is fantastic.

malazn mafia · 27-09-2016, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Giant Cranium

f trucks for the win, i drive one everyday and love it. the 6.7 power stroke is fantastic.

You drive NYC in an F-Truck, driving the Explorer was frightening enough

NX74205 · 27-09-2016, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by malazn mafia

The Japs and the Koreans have this segment stitched up, there is no point fighting .

That's because people are sheep; all they see are dollar signs and aren't prepared to pay more for a better product.

tranquilized · 27-09-2016, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NX74205

That's because people are sheep; all they see are dollar signs and aren't prepared to pay more for a better product.

Record sales for Mercedes Benz in this country would appear to contradict that statement.

R12RT · 27-09-2016, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NX74205

That's because people are sheep; all they see are dollar signs and aren't prepared to pay more for a better product.

It must be clever marketing that makes people see that cars from Hyundai and Kia are cheaper.

Before I bought my Mondeo I went to the Hyundai and Kia websites and specced up their mid sized offerings to be same as a Mondeo Titanium. It turned out that although the Mondeo was still more expensive there wasn't a huge difference in price. The Koreans do offer a better warranty, however.

I was happy to pay the extra dollars for the Mondeo as I believe it will be the better car to own over the next five years.

Also, I own neither a boat or caravan.

csv8 · 27-09-2016, 09:20 AM

simon varley..Edge towing capacity is same as Mondeo. Unless changes are made before arrival.
EDGE Specifications
Towing Specifications
Base towing (lbs.) Max towing with optional Class II Trailer/Tow Package (lbs.)
2.0L EcoBoost I-4 FWD 1500 3500 (1600kgs)
2.0L EcoBoost I-4 AWD 1500 3500
3.5L Ti-VCT V6 FWD 2000 3500
2 more rows
2016 Ford Edge | View Towing Specifications | Ford.com
http://www.ford.com/crossovers/edge/...ations/towing/

Franco Cozzo · 27-09-2016, 09:48 AM

I'm very anti-SUV, especially stuff like the smaller crapola, Mazda CX3 et al.

Its just a jumped up Mazda 2 that handles, goes, stops worse and uses more fuel than the Mazda 2.

rjk74 · 27-09-2016, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

I'm very anti-SUV, especially stuff like the smaller crapola, Mazda CX3 et al.

Its just a jumped up Mazda 2 that handles, goes, stops worse and uses more fuel than the Mazda 2.

Yep agree, the missus has a qashqai, l call it the glorified wagon then l get the death stair.