Just how much flogging can a Falcon 6 take?

[Hunter]

Got a question for everyone and undoubtedly there will be as many answers as grains of sand in the world but I will ask it anyway.

Just how much flogging can a properly maintained EL Falcon 6 take? I ask because I find myself 'thrashing' the crap out of my car to make it move most days, probably hitting between 2600 and 3000 RPM each time I take off, maybe hitting 3500 rpm on odd occasion. I realise this isn't very scientific but I worry because the damn thing vibrates like a bastard and it sounds like I'm wringing its neck!

I maintain it properly, head gasket was done 10,000 km ago (150,000 HG problem!) and I do oil, oil filter and air filter changes every 8000 though I am considering doing it more often. I've had it for about 14-15 months now and it doesn't show any signs of dying on me but I do wonder just how much flogging can a Falcon 6 take before it packs its bags and goes to the caryard in the sky!

[JC]

Oh no, 3500rpm! You will break it for sure. Try 5500 rpm, in the lower gears, and then see how you go! 3500 is mid rev range, so if that's what you call thrashing it, then I must be murdering mine every time I drive it.

[Hunter]

Originally Posted by JC

Oh no, 3500rpm! You will break it for sure. Try 5500 rpm, in the lower gears, and then see how you go! 3500 is mid rev range, so if that's what you call thrashing it, then I must be murdering mine every time I drive it.

It may not seem like a lot but it sounds bloody awful at those revs and not to mention how bad it feels. Its like someone taking a giant vibrator and shoving it under your ИИИИ.

I've only taken it out to 4500 a half dozen times and only hit 5000 probably once or twice. It wasn't enjoyable on any occasion. Very bad.

Oh and the Ford manual recommends staying below 4000 RPM to 'prevent premature engine wear' or words to that effect. Most people who ride with me comment on just how bad it sound at high revs. Maybe its designed like that, who knows.

[Psycho Chicken]

Pfffft 3500 is nothing. Mine sees redline all the time. It's the only way to tell it's a V8 through the stock exhaust.

Originally Posted by Hunter

Its like someone taking a giant vibrator and shoving it under your ИИИИ.

And how the hell do you know what that feels like?

[Dezza]

Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

And how the hell do you know what that feels like?

Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

[Hunter]

Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

And how the hell do you know what that feels like?

Its what I'd presume having a big vibrator under your ИИИИ would feel like.

Just expanding upon the subject, my compression readings are all nominal (something like 1100 kpa just before I had my head gasket done), it doesn't eat oil, doesn't blow smoke, doesn't eat coolant (hasn't for a while so head job seems to have been ok) and the auto generally behaves itself (needs a service soon).

Maybe I'm being a bit sensitive towards vibration but its not so bad that the car feels like its going to fall apart, it just doesn't feel good for the engine or sound good. I am known to pick up faults in cars that most people wouldn't so perhaps I'm just a bit anal about things.

Thing is, my Falcon doesn't seem to have any guts until it hits about 2500, anything below that is very sluggish, but then it seems to run out of steam at around 4000. Who knows, the only problem I have with it is the ИИИИty idle, now THAT is bad, the mirrors vibrate when idling (d, n or p, doesn't matter).

Oh and I was just thinking, maybe I should get an oil analysis done and perhaps that'd provide some insight into just how much life my engine does or does not have left?

[mcflux]

A burnout should fix it. A nice, big one111.

[luke]

I've been handing my EA some decent abuse since I got it. Usually accelerate to 110kph in third round the corner from my house every day (near 4000 rpm), but I do alot of country km's so I guess the motor is kind of used to it. If you always change your oil @ regular intervals and don't over-rev it, it should be fine.

I typically tend to shift @ 2500 - 3000 when driving normally... Been doing it for nearly 2 years & no complaint. 3500 isn't what I'd call thrashing it.

Don't take my advice though... I could just be lucky with mine...

[stockstandard]

3500 is nothing - unless you engine has issues

[snypereb]

Sounds like your going soft mate give it a good beating!!!

[Walkinshaw]

indeed.

I would see 5500rpm 10times+ a day. and find mr rev limiter atleast once a day.

[Casper]

Originally Posted by Walkinshaw

indeed.

I would see 5500rpm 10times+ a day. and find mr rev limiter atleast once a day.

Same. And its an auto!!!! :eclipsee_

Hell, stall doesnt even "lock up" till 3000rpm's in mine so anything below that is redundant as far as I'm concerned.

[stiddy]

Originally Posted by Walkinshaw

indeed.

I would see 5500rpm 10times+ a day. and find mr rev limiter atleast once a day.

10 times a day , what are you soft? lol

im in the same boat, gets up around 5500rpm daily and then some..

Originally Posted by stiddy

10 times a day , what are you soft? lol

im in the same boat, gets up around 5500rpm daily and then some..

Mate you get over 5500rpm leaving your driveway.

[XRated]

Originally Posted by Walkinshaw

indeed.

I would see 5500rpm 10times+ a day. and find mr rev limiter atleast once a day.

LOL I'm with you guys - at a minimum hahaha!!!! (But 5k for me)

[EFIwindsor]

Originally Posted by Walkinshaw

I would see 5500rpm 10times+ a day. and find mr rev limiter atleast once a day.

lol When i purchased my EA in 2000 (manual) it had 255000 kms in it... I drove it hard... flat shifted 5000rpm + 1-2 2-3 several times a day (i used to drive like a w@*kA) til i lost my licence and had a 6 car pile up(not my fault). (several yrs ago) and it never died. when i sold (to my sister) it it had 330000 on it and my sister drove it til it had near 400 000 kms on it.

Fords don't die very often

PS: I now drive like a granny cos it is so hard to get insurance.

[EB Pete]

Originally Posted by Walkinshaw

indeed.

I would see 5500rpm 10times+ a day. and find mr rev limiter atleast once a day.

i never see 5500rpm!!

5300 and see is bouncing. i know, somthing is wrong!


pete j

[Obriza]

I give my car so much more than that! I’ve had it go up to about 5500rpm a couple of times and it never sounds bad really. Sounds like your motor might be in a pretty bad state, give it a good clean maybe.

[InitialD]

Originally Posted by Obriza

I give my car so much more than that! I’ve had it go up to about 5500rpm a couple of times and it never sounds bad really. Sounds like your motor might be in a pretty bad state, give it a good clean maybe.

how can giving it a good clean help :S? did know oil and dirt on the engineblock effect the high rpm performance

[FPVWEPN]

my car sees almost 6000rpm every single day ive owned it and thats one year and a half now!!! vibrations at 4000rpm sounds like u need a rebuild dude

[daz82]

I have an EA serries 2 MPI auto and i flogg the absolute crap out of it every day, ive been trying to destry the engine and transmission in it for 2 years. i have another engine and near new auto to put in it when it gives up. I change gears manually like you shouldnt and rev her out to 6000 rpm all the time. they can take a lot of beating, but when something wants to give up on you it will!!

[AUII_Forte]

Mine gets the absolute ring flogged out of it as well!! I've had mine for nearly 12 months now and it's not showing any signs of dying, even with 2 lifters rolling round in the sump lol. I've had they bloody thing in pieces more times than I can remember as well.

[Racecraft]

I still have the 3.08 back in mine,, if I saw those RPM i wouldn't have a license

[PULLY6]

Mine sees 5500rpm frequently. 4500-4900 take off from most traffic lights; quick downshifts to cut ahead of peak hour traffic; lots of hard cornering at high rpm.

I wouldnt worry dude!

Falcon 6 can take a flogging, just watch the temprature guage. (and speedo)

When I drove the EF every set of lights gets taken to redline, or pushed hard to the speed limit, unless there are other cars in front of me, or the cops around. Every motorway onramp its redlined.

Also around some parts it was manually shifted, but never put it 2>1 while moving above 10kmh, unless you are on the throttle at around 40kmh or less.

[gozza]

man i baby my car
i drive it like its gonna die soon
althought when i get up it on the odd occaision i really get up it
with the shift kit i have to red line it lol
but when its getting to the redline it feels like its straining a bit

[BABOSS]

Originally Posted by gozza

man i baby my car
i drive it like its gonna die soon
althought when i get up it on the odd occaision i really get up it
with the shift kit i have to red line it lol
but when its getting to the redline it feels like its straining a bit

:nutsycuck

[efgiar]

lol, if the car shakes and rattles at 3000, sounds like somthin is wrong... engine mount perhaps?

[Dezza]

Wow. I thought I was a leadfoot. I slam the foot down and can even get the car to hit the 5000rpm redline (it's an auto). Mine sounds awesome at 3000 - 4000 rpm and that's the point where I really start to feel the torque of the engine coming through.

[Kenaz]

Going by the way my brother drives his 400,000k+ EA, I would say the I6 can take a bit of a flogging :