Forget the VE - it is the new Camry which is to be feared

Falcon Freak · 03-07-2006, 09:36 PM

Considering that a large percentage of new cars are sold to fleets, in these fuel conscious times it is likely that many companies will seriously consider a 4 cylinder car for their fleets. Most fleet managers are not car enthusiasts and therefore see cars as just another commodity (i.e. no emotional attachment). Therefore I predict the new Camry will sell very well.

New Camry model on Toyota's US website

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Kenster · 03-07-2006, 09:37 PM

the new camry looks like it took a page of Holden front bonet

Outbackjack · 03-07-2006, 10:23 PM

It looks chunky and ugly to my eye.....

Mutley · 03-07-2006, 10:35 PM

That looks seriously ugly. Toyota has been the manufacturer to beat recently however a few chinks are starting to appear.

In particular their styling is going south on many of their models in my opinion. On the other hand, without bias, the BA/BF is one of the best looking cars on the road today. In my opinion, Ford Australia hasn't made such a good looking car since the XB.

Just my opinion though.

Mongoose · 22-05-2007, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutley

In particular their styling is going south on many of their models in my opinion. On the other hand, without bias, the BA/BF is one of the best looking cars on the road today. In my opinion, Ford Australia hasn't made such a good looking car since the XB.

Just my opinion though.

And I agree 100%

xurbanx · 03-07-2006, 10:49 PM

Looks like something along the lines of the 300c. It looks alright, the side is starting to grow on me.

Agreed to what Mutley said; the BA/BF looks very good!

Van D · 03-07-2006, 10:53 PM

It's got nothing to do with looks though people.

Companies are going to want a cheap car (that's also cheap to run) and that's reliable (which Toyota are).

**Raptor** · 05-07-2006, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by popinfresh

It's got nothing to do with looks though people.

So why didn't the AU sell

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Companies are going to want a cheap car (that's also cheap to run) and that's reliable (which Toyota are).

No, it's the overall cost of ownership. If the resale is on the nose (ie, no appeal to private buyers) smart fleet managers won't touch it.

ondori · 03-07-2006, 10:55 PM

watch this
http://www.cartv.com/content/researc...ry/?vid=r_0201

Hally · 03-07-2006, 11:01 PM

On toyotas, I spoke to a guy I know who works there and he has told me the Aurion will be standard with 202kw and 6 speed auto.

Then there is te TRD version to come on top of that.

LethalLeigh · 03-07-2006, 11:26 PM

It's quite safe conservative styling, but it's quite handsome. In terms of satisfying the typical buyer, they will have succeeded, but in terms of winning over the young'uns, probably not. But hey, I don't think Toyota has many more buyers to win over.

EFFalcon · 04-07-2006, 12:47 AM

all cars are starting to look the same.

Full Spectrum · 04-07-2006, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by EFFalcon

all cars are starting to look the same.

There starting to run out of ideas.

Walkinshaw · 05-07-2006, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by EFFalcon

all cars are starting to look the same.

Exactly why the 300C is selling like hotcakes

Smoked · 04-07-2006, 01:03 AM

looks almost like a honda civic.

marcosambrose · 04-07-2006, 02:03 AM

Lexus clone, always was predicted to be anyway, i like the lexus design direction but the camry isnt supposed to be a class leader in looks, its a car for people who dont care if their car is the best.

Poetic Justice · 04-07-2006, 06:53 PM

dig on toyota all you like, but they continue to be the leading manufacturer, and the dealer i work for is selling a ****load more toyotas than any of the other manufacturers around

YOOT · 04-07-2006, 07:08 PM

I wouldn't buy a new commodore or Falcon over that new camry!! It has more equipment then the Calais and Ghia put together and half the price. And if you can get the V6 - 6 speed auto in Australia then I could love with front wheel drive, and I don't need the space! Perfect car for my wife, if the Forester XT didn't exist LOL!

EL_futuraistic · 04-07-2006, 07:26 PM

I dont think that camry looks too bad, Its good they poach some technology and designs from sister company LEXUS. Only question I have is Wont the new Aurion be a direct competitor for the Camry????

I think fleet buyers arent too concerned with what vehicles they purchase, as long as after the lease is up they can sell them somewhere close to what they originally cost in order to re-fleet.

I work for a major rental company, we have only just gotten rid of our BA MK2's and wont be getting any BF's. Instead have some new camry's, 380's and are getting Subaru Wagons also.

Having said that, I dont think the 380's will retain much resale value either.... but couldnt be as pathetic as BA and VY/VZ Holdens.

ClevlndStemer · 04-07-2006, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by EL_futuraistic

I dont think that camry looks too bad, Its good they poach some technology and designs from sister company LEXUS. Only question I have is Wont the new Aurion be a direct competitor for the Camry????

There is NO V6 camry, the camry will only be a 4cyl. The Aurion is the V6 Camry, all it is is a Camry with a different front and rear and a v6.

XR6turbo · 05-07-2006, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ClevlndStemer

There is NO V6 camry, the camry will only be a 4cyl. The Aurion is the V6 Camry, all it is is a Camry with a different front and rear and a v6.

Incorrect, the 2 cars are totally different. I used to work for Toyota, the Aurion is not based off the camry at all!

Mutley · 04-07-2006, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by YOOT

I wouldn't buy a new commodore or Falcon over that new camry!! It has more equipment then the Calais and Ghia put together and half the price. And if you can get the V6 - 6 speed auto in Australia then I could love with front wheel drive, and I don't need the space! Perfect car for my wife, if the Forester XT didn't exist LOL!

I think your on the wrong website. Try imanothertoyotalover.com.jp

Poetic Justice · 04-07-2006, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutley

I think your on the wrong website. Try imanothertoyotalover.com.jp

I think you're being a oneyed pig, try www.onlyholdensupportersdothat.com

MITCHAY · 04-07-2006, 11:03 PM

Not a fan of the Camry, and by the looks of it, won't be in the near future either.

Mutley · 04-07-2006, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by blackout

I think you're being a oneyed pig, try www.onlyholdensupportersdothat.com

Oops!

ON_DUBS · 04-07-2006, 07:03 PM

disgusting

Lagom · 04-07-2006, 09:07 PM

Aurion/Camry's interior looks pretty classy based on what I've seen so far.

McobraR · 04-07-2006, 09:13 PM

Saw one months ago without any camo at canley vale. Thought that they were on sale already. All i can say is that it looks alot better in the flesh. In terms of looks, it'll make the BF looked outdated, and with the introduction of the VE and Aurion models, its wont help the falc either.

MRJUCY · 04-07-2006, 11:04 PM

Camrys like most Toyotas have always been ugly, poorly equiped & brain crushingly dull but that's what a lot of people look for in a car unfortunately. I like my fridge, it keeps my beer cold other people like them so much they want to drive them it seems.

MITCHAY · 04-07-2006, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MRJUCY

Camrys like most Toyotas have always been ugly, poorly equiped & brain crushingly dull but that's what a lot of people look for in a car unfortunately. I like my fridge, it keeps my beer cold other people like them so much they want to drive them it seems.

That's a good one. Made my day.