black eye for holden???

mik · 06-12-2006, 06:49 PM

on my way home tonight i heard on the radio camry.........AHEM correction "aurion" got the car of the year, ford had a couple of coty titles in recent years so does`nt hurt so much, but the gm boys must be chokin after all their big praise and advertising push, toyota is sticking the boots in to the locals yet again

Lukeyson · 06-12-2006, 06:51 PM

yeah i would have though VE would have got it

Danny · 06-12-2006, 07:20 PM

Fantastic. I know it sounds cynical, as I like the VE. But I do not think that any car should win a COTY award due to its profile, and how much money and publicity has been wasted on it.

No car maker should go in thinking that they have shat it in.

mik · 06-12-2006, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Fantastic. I know it sounds cynical, as I like the VE. But I do not think that any car should win a COTY award due to its profile, and how much money and publicity has been wasted on it.

No car maker should go in thinking that they have shat it in.

fully agree

Full Spectrum · 06-12-2006, 09:19 PM

Think you will find the VE is much more then just a paid advertising car, It's a bloody great car.

AUXRVIII · 06-12-2006, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick_Aussie

Think you will find the VE is much more then just a paid advertising car, It's a bloody great car.

With carryover engine and 4spd trans, maybe the two things that hampered it.

Full Spectrum · 06-12-2006, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AUXRVIII

With carryover engine and 4spd trans, maybe the two things that hampered it.

Yes the 180 and 4 speed leave a bad taste in the mouth from sound wise. But the 195 and 5 speed are very much up too the job, And really should be on base models atleast as a option. But with more too offer across the board i felt it would win, I mean after all they have more then 1 engine and 1 tranny too offer

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J_Tank · 08-12-2006, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick_Aussie

Yes the 180 and 4 speed leave a bad taste in the mouth from sound wise. But the 195 and 5 speed are very much up too the job, And really should be on base models atleast as a option. But with more too offer across the board i felt it would win, I mean after all they have more then 1 engine and 1 tranny too offer

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holden offers "Trannys" with their cars? no wonder i drive a Ford

Full Spectrum · 08-12-2006, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by John_xr6t

holden offers "Trannys" with their cars? no wonder i drive a Ford

Let me know when i'm supposed too laugh ok

Dezza · 06-12-2006, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick_Aussie

Think you will find the VE is much more then just a paid advertising car, It's a bloody great car.

Just not as great as a beefed up Camry

Wally · 07-12-2006, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Slick_Aussie

Think you will find the VE is much more then just a paid advertising car, It's a bloody great car.

Yes it is.

Wally · 07-12-2006, 10:33 AM

P.S It seems to me that without the Holden brand to whine about, the Pub forum would cease to exist.... just Like locally made falcons will unless Ford pull their finger out give the larger public what they want.

Auslandau · 07-12-2006, 11:05 AM

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P.S It seems to me that without the Holden brand to whine about, the Pub forum would cease to exist.... just Like locally made falcons will unless Ford pull their finger out give the larger public what they want.

Yes I know! The F6 and GTP, XR6T, XR5 Territory etc all not what the public want. Wish they would stop building these so I can buy a commode.

: If it wasnt for the other manifactuers, Ford would be crap, and vise versa. This is a Ford forum so the 'opposition' will always be discussed, negatively and very occasionly positive.

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Wally · 07-12-2006, 11:24 AM

Specific niche models aren't the problem. Ford sales are second rate because they aren't supplying a car and service the broader market wants, they have second tier sales people and exhausted the bodyline. I think Ford are also carrying historical baggage.

As far negativity about the Holden brand, well with a captive audience it hardly has any worth except for shallow back slapping.

**Falcon Coupe** · 06-12-2006, 09:24 PM

I heard Slick got coty ?

nugget378 · 06-12-2006, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

I heard Slick got coty ?

Yaeh,as for the VE being great?
Dunno never drove one,dont like them in the looks department though,kinda like the 380 with an AU roof line and A9X flares tacked on....

XRated · 06-12-2006, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

I heard Slick got coty ?

:the_finge Hahahaha!!!!

b2tf · 06-12-2006, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

I heard Slick got coty ?

:hihi: good one

mcflux · 06-12-2006, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

I heard Slick got coty ?

bwahahaha!

Full Spectrum · 06-12-2006, 09:27 PM

I herd you got knocked back.

nugget378 · 06-12-2006, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick_Aussie

I herd you got knocked back.

He wasnt even nominated

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Full Spectrum · 06-12-2006, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nugget378

He wasnt even nominated

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Guess popularity is everything

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clontarf_x · 06-12-2006, 10:26 PM

Back on topic, well, I suppose it's a wakeup call for Holden. Spent so much money on their cars and are still losing top awards to overseas-owned car makers.

As for the COTY, GOLD!

MITCHAY · 06-12-2006, 10:38 PM

I was having a debate about awards yesterday on another forum.

Seriously who cares, they are based on the judgement of people who have their own oppinions like anyone else.

Auslandau · 06-12-2006, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MITCHAY

I was having a debate about awards yesterday on another forum.

Seriously who cares, they are based on the judgement of people who have their own oppinions like anyone else.

Holden will care very deeply. Spend billions and being beaten by a camry will not go down well. Means more than you could imagine to the manufactures. FOrd spent $$$$ on advterising campaign around their various wins. Now hopefully will put an end to the 'greatest car on earth' crap. Its only a Holden

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MITCHAY · 07-12-2006, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by auslandau

Holden will care very deeply. Spend billions and being beaten by a camry will not go down well. Means more than you could imagine to the manufactures. FOrd spent $$$$ on advterising campaign around their various wins. Now hopefully will put an end to the 'greatest car on earth' crap. Its only a Holden

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I don't know why they would care. If a person wanted a VE before the award annoucement all bets are that they sure as hell ain't going to change it for an Aurion.

The only valid "awards" so to speak to me are crash ratings for which are based on data not a panel of judges personal oppinions. That's just me anyways.

Wouldn't you just puke if it now did win "Worlds best car" award! Highly doubtful though.

Homer1 · 07-12-2006, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by clontarf_x

Back on topic, well, I suppose it's a wakeup call for Holden. Spent so much money on their cars and are still losing top awards to overseas-owned car makers.

As for the COTY, GOLD!

Last time I checked, Holden IS an overseas owned carmaker!

MethodX · 07-12-2006, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Homer1

Last time I checked, Holden IS an overseas owned carmaker!

As is Ford.

bathurst77 · 07-12-2006, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by clontarf_x

I suppose it's a wakeup call for Holden. Spent so much money on their cars and are still losing top awards to overseas-owned car makers.

At last count there were four "overseas-owned car makers" in Aust
Holden
Ford
Toyota
Mitsubishi

All building cars here, all foreign owned.
Elfin, are locally owned I think.

Abacus · 07-12-2006, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bathurst77

At last count there were four "overseas-owned car makers" in Aust
Holden
Ford
Toyota
Mitsubishi

All building cars here, all foreign owned.
Elfin, are locally owned I think.

But Mitsubishi is on death row. Yes, its technically there. But for 800 cars a month, who cares?