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View Poll Results: how long does it take to get into a ba falcon with just a coat hanger.
0-5 Seconds 28 28.28%
5-30 Seconds 30 30.30%
30 Seconds - 2 Minutes 14 14.14%
2 Minutes or more 27 27.27%
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Old 11-02-2007, 01:06 PM   #1
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well, i had an unfornature incidednt this weekend where my keys were stolen :(

now... have a spare set...
they were in the car :(

now how long do u think it took old mate to brake into my car so i could grab my other set?

mind you this is a BA Falcon, w/factory alarm

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Old 11-02-2007, 01:14 PM   #2
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voted 30 seconds but more to the point why keep your spares in the car?
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Old 17-02-2007, 09:31 AM   #3
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but more to the point why keep your spares in the car?
The same reason that females leave the spare key at home or in their handbag... which is in the car
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Old 11-02-2007, 01:16 PM   #4
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I'd say between 15 and 30 seconds if you used a "master key" and threw it through the rear quarter glass window and opened the back door and retrieved the spare set of keys. (Read "MASTER KEY" as a house brick......)

If you didn't use a "master key", I wouldn't hazard a guess as I've never had to break into my car and wouldn't know where to start.
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Old 11-02-2007, 01:25 PM   #5
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never tried myself but i would have a guess and say around 5-8 seconds probably.
why have the spare keys in the car?
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Old 11-02-2007, 01:25 PM   #6
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spares were only in the car by fluke that i had thatday had the car in the ford dealership getting a new ac unit fitted
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spares were only in the car by fluke that i had thatday had the car in the ford dealership getting a new ac unit fitted
Ha ha ha, good old Ford hey!
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Old 11-02-2007, 01:38 PM   #8
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so yeah how long did it take?
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Old 11-02-2007, 01:51 PM   #9
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including making the coat hanger into shape... just on about 5 seconds....
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Old 11-02-2007, 01:52 PM   #10
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Door handle hey?
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Old 03-06-2007, 06:14 PM   #11
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including making the coat hanger into shape... just on about 5 seconds....
aww crap that it cant that easy to pinch a car can it?
doesent the ford run dead lock's
i had to smash a window to open the boot to retreve a set of key's then i could
only reset the alarm bye starting it and pressing the remote uptine times
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:00 PM   #12
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it was just in... lock popped up... car was open... and im like...
I LEAVE MY WALLET IN THIS CAR !!!!
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:22 PM   #13
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Cool security :
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:38 PM   #14
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it was just in... lock popped up... car was open... and im like...
I LEAVE MY WALLET IN THIS CAR !!!!
so you put the wire in the key hole and it poped up? my dads car goes off when he tries to open the door with his key
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:33 PM   #15
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how did you do it?
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how did you do it?
er no, wont be discussed on an internet forum! :
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:34 PM   #17
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you wouldnt be able to start the car though
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:42 PM   #18
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true story, happened to me about a year ago...
I locked my keys in my BA once. (I opened the boot to load some shoping in, then slammed the boot, realised my keys had fallen in and the doors were still locked)

Called Ford assist after about an hour an NRMA Bloke turns up, "wire coathanger" in hand.

"want to time me?" he asked as he walked up to my car
"OK" I said "tell me when to start.."
"too late, I've already unlocked it" he said walking back to his truck.
took him all of about 5 seconds.

Reached in and popped the boot and grabbed my keys.

"NEVER LEAVE ANYTHING VALUABLE IN YOUR BA" was his warning. Oh and Commodores were no better according to him.

Locks only keep honest people out
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:53 PM   #19
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true story, happened to me about a year ago...
I locked my keys in my BA once. (I opened the boot to load some shoping in, then slammed the boot, realised my keys had fallen in and the doors were still locked)

Called Ford assist after about an hour an NRMA Bloke turns up, "wire coathanger" in hand.

"want to time me?" he asked as he walked up to my car
"OK" I said "tell me when to start.."
"too late, I've already unlocked it" he said walking back to his truck.
took him all of about 5 seconds.

Reached in and popped the boot and grabbed my keys.

"NEVER LEAVE ANYTHING VALUABLE IN YOUR BA" was his warning. Oh and Commodores were no better according to him.

Locks only keep honest people out
Reminds me when my brother locked his keys in his VN. My brother rang up some guy to get them out and was ****ed off it was going to cost $100.

I said wait till you see how long it takes to open it and then you will be ****ed off.

$100 for 5secs work. I wonder what the hourly rate would be : Lucky I won't ever have this problem.
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Old 11-02-2007, 03:05 PM   #20
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$100 for 5secs work. I wonder what the hourly rate would be : Lucky I won't ever have this problem.
That was his hourly rate, and the reason he charged you $100 is because thats the minimum he'll take, if you get me.

So if he done 1 hour of work, it still would have been $100.
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That was his hourly rate, and the reason he charged you $100 is because thats the minimum he'll take, if you get me.

So if he done 1 hour of work, it still would have been $100.
Still not bad considering it was only 5 secs work :

It reminds me when we had to get a locksmith to unlock my mums b'room door. It took him 20-30mins and $160.

My brother the sneeky **** (the reason why we have locks on our b'room) just uses his bankcard and he's in.
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Old 11-02-2007, 05:30 PM   #22
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true story, happened to me about a year ago...
I locked my keys in my BA once. (I opened the boot to load some shoping in, then slammed the boot, realised my keys had fallen in and the doors were still locked)

Called Ford assist after about an hour an NRMA Bloke turns up, "wire coathanger" in hand.

"want to time me?" he asked as he walked up to my car
"OK" I said "tell me when to start.."
"too late, I've already unlocked it" he said walking back to his truck.
took him all of about 5 seconds.

Reached in and popped the boot and grabbed my keys.

"NEVER LEAVE ANYTHING VALUABLE IN YOUR BA" was his warning. Oh and Commodores were no better according to him.

Locks only keep honest people out

Exact same thing happened to my old man couple weeks ago, (but it was my brother who actually locked the keys in the boot)
Called whoever it was out there and the guys had it done in no time. They said they get plenty of practise from the local ford dealer. People who work there always locking keys in the cars lol.
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:58 PM   #23
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this still doesnt explain why the alarm doesnt go off. my dads alarm goes off he tries to open the car with his key instead of central locking. after that it would go off when he was driving it. i cant remember what he did to stop it but for a few moments it looked like he stole the car lol
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Old 11-02-2007, 05:42 PM   #24
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this still doesnt explain why the alarm doesnt go off. my dads alarm goes off he tries to open the car with his key instead of central locking. after that it would go off when he was driving it. i cant remember what he did to stop it but for a few moments it looked like he stole the car lol
not every make/model, but often if the car thinks you opened it from the inside it will disarm the alarm, but 'smart' lock is still activated
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Old 11-02-2007, 08:43 PM   #25
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I have a mate who is a retired locksmith. His favourite saying is "Locks only keep honest people out".

It's a very true saying...
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Old 11-02-2007, 03:03 PM   #26
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Ever seen a locksmith open a security door on a house before, around 20 seconds and the Lock barrel was out of the door in his hand and the door was open.

I was standing there like arrrr.. How the hell did you do that?
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Old 11-02-2007, 03:06 PM   #27
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When I had my BAXR6T I locked the keys in the boot once, so I thought not a problem I will ring Ford on the customer care/breakdown number supplied by the dealer. I told them what had happened and they said they couldnt come around because I was too far from Melbourne (about 45k's) and then suggested to smash the smallest window on the car to get my way in. I politely hung the phone up on him and called RACV and in 10 minutes of the call a mechanic was over and opened the door in less than 5 seconds with no broken windows or damage to my car.
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Old 11-02-2007, 04:37 PM   #28
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RACQ loved my XF the one time they had to unlock it for me..... the rubber/felt scraper seals had gone so hard they had to break a little bit out to get thier..... tool.... down beside the window lol

soon fixed that little issue, and now i can break into my XF and have it running in under 30 seconds.....
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Old 11-02-2007, 04:49 PM   #29
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now im paranoid... i left my laptop a few times in that car >( : :
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Old 11-02-2007, 04:50 PM   #30
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The easiest way to break into a car is to break a window, everyone knows this. If it were damn hard to do it for the motoring clubs then the damage they would do would be costly. Most people know a Falcon is easy to break into so they don't leave valuables in the car, but if you do your a fool, remember it only needs a rock through the window for a grab and run regardless of what you own.
I think this thread should be a good lesson on not leaving valuables in the car, not concern for how easy it is to break into one.
The dealership I work at has had some wheels etc stolen from stock vehicles and what do you think is the most common method for getting into the car?
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