Should we pay for citylink when traffic is high

[maxford]

I don't think that we should be charged for travelling on citylink or any other toll motorways when traffic is bumper to bumper or we would spend less time travelling via suburbs. Voice your opinions in the poll. Thanks

One solution for citylink would be to disable the scanners when they see that there is a traffic congestion on the freeway.

[Melz]

I don't mind paying that bit extra for city link, it saves time and the headache of the Western Ring Road!

[maxford]

you really don't mind paying when you are moving 20km per hour because there was accident or it is peak hour? That's strange ...

[Melz]

Originally Posted by maxford

you really don't mind paying when you are moving 20km per hour because there was accident or it is peak hour? That's strange ...

The amount of times I use it, I've only had one hold up...
You are going to get traffic snarles on every major road in Melbourne, its just the way it is. Toll or no toll

[maxford]

Originally Posted by Melz

You are going to get traffic snarles on every major road in Melbourne, its just the way it is. Toll or no toll ...

We are talking about that one time ... Citylink should disable their scanners when they see that traffic is causing you too get home later than usual

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by maxford

We are talking about that one time ... Citylink should disable their scanners when they see that traffic is causing you too get home later than usual

I never use citylink..........it's too far for me to travel

But dont forget Citylink is a business to make money, they dont care what road is blocked or how quick you get home. Who knows, they may even help block the roads to get more traffic on their toll roads! (just kidding)

[maxford]

Originally Posted by GasOLane

But dont forget Citylink is a business to make money, they dont care what road is blocked or how quick you get home.

That is very valid point, but don't forget that even when Safeway or any other foods market sell meat that is off, they will replace it or refund the money.

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[kyro_02]

i would rather not pay, if i pay a toll i'd be expecting bugger all congestion or atleast cover fast distance.. but it's not like i travel east side. western ringroad is absolutely shocking mon. to fri.... but no toll, so no reason to complain -- yet :P

[chevypower]

we should never have to pay tolls.... but even more so when its congested

[robjh80]

Originally Posted by chevypower

we should never have to pay tolls.... but even more so when its congested

I'd have to agree with that statement.

Dont we all pay taxes to build roads etc out of our pay packets, then we are slugged at the petrol bowser for a second hit by the taxman every time we need to fill up the car, then just to add insult to injury they stick toll booths all over every road that gets created and say that "the money has to come from somewhere", it will only take 4000 years to pay off!!!........WTF!!!

Makes ya wonder where all that tax money is going, certainly not where it should be going obviously.

[4.9 EF Futura]

Originally Posted by robjh80

Makes ya wonder where all that tax money is going, certainly not where it should be going obviously.

Absolutely.

Those freeloading hospitals, bums charging health to medicare, wasteful crime prevention/punishment, feeding those pathetic people without jobs and all the rest of it....

Should all be scrapped and put into roads so the rest of us dont have to put up with eastern staters whinging about tolls!!!

Nah, j/k guys. I dont know how youve put up with it for so long!! And your state govts keep getting back in?!?!?

In all seriousness tho... some interesting concepts of economics being put forward... you want them to DROP the toll because it's too busy? The effect on demand would be....... (<--- fill in the blank)

[maxford]

Paying tolls is not nice, but once it has been introduced it is here to stay. But paying t olls when you end up loosing time, it is a plain rip off and totally illegal

[Melz]

Originally Posted by maxford

Paying tolls is not nice, but once it has been introduced it is here to stay. But paying t olls when you end up loosing time, it is a plain rip off and totally illegal

Illegal, according to what Act?

[maxford]

a new Act, one that many people are yet to discover called paragraph commonsense123.xyz

[Melz]

Originally Posted by maxford

a new Act, one that many people are yet to discover called commonsense123.xyz

hahahaha... oh yeah I recall it, also links with yougottabekiddingme.u21 :

[agony]

Originally Posted by Melz

hahahaha... oh yeah I recall it, also links with yougottabekiddingme.u21 :

:the_finge :the_finge Go Melz :the_finge :the_finge

[maxford]

Originally Posted by Melz

hahahaha... oh yeah I recall it, also links with yougottabekiddingme.u21 :

Yeah but on a serious note now, for someone it might be just one off experience when you are actually slowed down by travelling on citylink, for others might be more often; in any case for us it is just few bucks lost on occasion .... for citylink it is a difference between few milion dollars.

If they were to implement disabling scanners when high traffic congestion, they would loose too much money ...

[maxford]

:thebirds: hahaha or your doctor should refund your money because he misdiagnosed your mental case :Reverend:

[strife]

having just moved down from sydney and paying a bucket load in tolls and just missing out on paying for the lane cove tunnel so far the city link has been great way better than sydney

what does it cost by the way ?

[maxford]

around $7 the whole distance, but it is divided into sections. each section is around $1.50

[Bearman]

Originally Posted by maxford

I don't think that we should be charged for travelling on citylink or any other toll motorways when traffic is bumper to bumper or we would spend less time travelling via suburbs. Voice your opinions in the poll. Thanks

One solution for citylink would be to disable the scanners when they see that there is a traffic congestion on the freeway.

Agreed. The whole idea of the city link project was for commuters to have a much better run bypassing the city and saving lots of time in transit. When city link is slow or gridlocked we are not getting what we paid for. Things like accidents causing delays you just have to wear it but if maintenance is the cause or other factors within transurbans control then the scanners should be switched off.

[GasoLane]

Isn't it a good thing that Melb isn't backward like Adelaide, where they build bypasses and new roads (even tunnels through really big hills) and then forget to charge people to drive on them!

[WOLF]

why pay for tolls when you can dodge them? works for me

[mik]

i agree with no tolls if the tollway is screwed, perhaps credit on the account could be implemented, but that said it doesnt take long to get from one side of melbourne to the other most days, i can remember taking two hours or longer to go from campbellfield to clayton before the tollway was running(in peak hour) its heaps faster now, credit where credit is due

[VZSS250]

I would have thought the toll should be increased to reduce traffic flow. Obviously if there's traffic, the toll is too cheap.

Taking the toll away at peak time would only make the problem worse.

[chevypower]

Oh yes please... please increase the toll charges. Please increase our taxes too. 200% GST and 90% income tax. I want to pay 200% car park levy and $10,000 per yr registration so i can be the only person on the road. Make it excise of $10 per litre too.... end of sarcasm too. GET RID OF TOLLS!!!

[Magna]

the biggest problem is it gets congested on the free parts of the M1 its normally not too bad going through the tunnels.

[schmidty]

Originally Posted by chevypower

Oh yes please... please increase the toll charges. Please increase our taxes too. 200% GST and 90% income tax. I want to pay 200% car park levy and $10,000 per yr registration so i can be the only person on the road. Make it excise of $10 per litre too.... end of sarcasm too. GET RID OF TOLLS!!!

If you owned a B-Double registered prime mover you would be paying $10,000 PA for rego, and a higher toll than a car. So should they get right of way when its busy?

Originally Posted by maxford

I don't think that we should be charged for travelling on citylink or any other toll motorways when traffic is bumper to bumper or we would spend less time travelling via suburbs. Voice your opinions in the poll. Thanks

One solution for citylink would be to disable the scanners when they see that there is a traffic congestion on the freeway.

Could price the lanes in the tunnel, so you could pay $1.50 for the cheap left lane, $3.00 for the mid range middle, or $4.50 for the fast lane priority.



What i really hate is during busy times they'll close off 1 lane of the tunell for emergency vehicle access. This compounds the congestion so much.



What about.... listen to the traffic report, and if city link is choked, use an alternate free route?



Everyone is in the same boat when its busy, and its not city links fault hey. They dont guarantee trip times when you get your etag.



Its a service you know the stakes of before you use it. If you go to the fish and chip shop and its a busy public holiday and takes an hour to get your order do you demand them for free? Should everyone get them for free because of the wait? It's a business, they'd close for the night before they gave everyone free fish and chips. You know when you walk in that its clearly busy, and make the decision weather or not to do business there.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by schmidty

If you owned a B-Double registered prime mover you would be paying $10,000 PA for rego, and a higher toll than a car. So should they get right of way when its busy?

You forgot the rego for the two trailers

[GTP-814]

I believe it should be performanced based, ie if your average speed is say less that 60kmph for tollway travel then you shouldnt pay. Most of the new tolls roads in Sydney are mobile car parks & are lucky if you travel more then 30kmph ..it is just a joke. Our jobs are performance measured, KPI's in busines are an everyday part of life, so why should roads be?????