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10-02-2010, 07:20 AM | #1 | ||
Workshop & Performance
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Hi, Im in the middle of a purchasing experience at the moment and am curious of what effect the big three dates have on future resale of the vehicle:
Build Date Compliance Date First Registration Story...I order a vehicle but colour was still up in the air. They indicated they had two colours,,,I said Id prefer black. The two alternate colours I specifically asked their build and compliance and they're 2010 for both. Anyway, time comes they say they have sourced a black from another dealer. Past tense, done. I asked build and compliance and the BUILD is 2009. I suggest that would affect my future resale as I'd have to advertise as 2009 and a dealer would mark me down on it. I get, along with a significant level of abusive comment, the fact that "the Dec 09 build has no affect on the appraisal of your vehicle the important date is the compliance date and the first year of registration" My question for those in the industry and/or with practical experience, is this really true? If I trade, would they knock me down on the build date? If I sell privately, I'd have to advertise as a 2009 vehicle also correct/no? Thanks for any help, I have zero joy left in this purchasing experience.
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10-02-2010, 07:37 AM | #2 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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They will knock you down for anything they can point a finger at, so yes they will claim it to be worth a bit less because of the build date. This is especially true if you buy showroom stock, which may have been sitting there for 12 months, but not registered. I have had this experience with our dealer. The upside is that you should be paying less for it as a new car purchase.
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XA coupe 8.8sec @ 150mph http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthr...coupe+drag+car BA GT-P for the shed Mustang GT for the other half E3 chubsport - fully fat (and slow), sitting there waiting for me to get sick of it and sell it. BA XR6T for a daily NT Pajero for the bush XB 4 door project- swallows a BF xr6 turbo My dad is a generous bloke. He gave away his dead car batteries free of charge.... |
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10-02-2010, 07:49 AM | #3 | ||
Workshop & Performance
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Nope, price is the same....
The other two colours weren't even landing until later in Feb. For the record the difference is negiligible in time at 12/09 build 01/10 compliance. But as a novated vehicle Im mindful of its 'end' value
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10-02-2010, 07:58 AM | #4 | |||
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Then they are playing games - look for a '09 build plate around March as they become noticeably discounted. This is where playing the waiting game can help.
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XA coupe 8.8sec @ 150mph http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthr...coupe+drag+car BA GT-P for the shed Mustang GT for the other half E3 chubsport - fully fat (and slow), sitting there waiting for me to get sick of it and sell it. BA XR6T for a daily NT Pajero for the bush XB 4 door project- swallows a BF xr6 turbo My dad is a generous bloke. He gave away his dead car batteries free of charge.... |
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10-02-2010, 07:58 AM | #5 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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If you have ordered a 2010 car and have been given a 2009 car, I'd say
"no thanks, where's the one I ordered?". If they give you a hard time, take back your deposit and go elsewhere. If they are selling you a car, I'm sure the story is "there's no difference". If they are buying your car as a trade, I'm sure they would offer you less.
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10-02-2010, 10:11 AM | #6 | ||
Fordaholic
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Phone another dealer and ask if you were trading would they go by build date or compliance that would affect my trade value. It might set you mind at ease.
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10-02-2010, 10:28 AM | #7 | ||
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Just been thru this with a new Honda Accord Euro Luxury..
My mate ordered a 2010, and it had 2010 on the contract he signed, the car turns up and its 26/12/2009 plated and all documents state 2009, insurance, rego the whole works. We went into the dealer on the day he picked it up and blew them up to the point where they gave him $1500 worth of free accessories.. The moral of the story is, if its build is 2009 then its appraised on 2009 at trade in time. Most dealers only look at the rego sticker and the year date on the rego sticker is the build date, not the aussie compliance. The only reason we took this car in this case was because we negotiated it cheaper then a 2009 runout to start with (yes we worked them hard) then got another $1500 worth of value.. But unless your saving money on a 2009 tell them to shove it. P.s. what sort of car is it? |
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10-02-2010, 10:29 AM | #8 | ||
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Its build date.
Your buying an 09 model - plain and simple. |
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10-02-2010, 12:47 PM | #9 | |||
Steve
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My GT was bought Feb 08 ,but built late 07. 55k driveaway because of it.
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10-02-2010, 12:55 PM | #10 | ||
Lurker
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If it's a Falcon or Territory (which it should be! ) Ford are giving massive rebates at the moment on 09 build cars. I'm buying an XR6 atm and got about $5k off the price as a result. If it is a Falcon/Terri, the dealer is pocketing the extra cash......... :
Once a car is a few years old, build date is everything in regards to value! |
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10-02-2010, 01:00 PM | #11 | |||
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Fords in aus only have compliance date. |
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10-02-2010, 01:10 PM | #12 | ||
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Could be a Focus or Mondeo perhaps?
For the OP - Build date is key I had them write into my contract that my car was a 2009 build otherwise I wouldnt accept delivery (purchased car april 2009 - was a March 2009 build) |
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