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27-05-2017, 07:23 AM | #1 | |||
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May 25, 2017 https://www.motormag.com.au/news/170...-ss-production Quote:
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27-05-2017, 08:08 AM | #2 | ||
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12,953 units over 4 years is very low volume.
Ford sold over 70,000 F-series trucks in April alone. It must be very disappointing for all involved - it looked like an ideal car for the US market. |
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27-05-2017, 08:51 AM | #3 | |||
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27-05-2017, 09:00 AM | #4 | ||
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Anyone know whats happening with HSV for 2018 onwards???
I worked there for 2 weeks in the exhaust area a few years ago. From memory the pay was about $21 per hour which was pathetic. |
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27-05-2017, 11:54 AM | #6 | ||
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G'day...Chevvy SS has a loyal band of followers in the U.S. I have watched several of their devotee vids over time and at least 40 actual reviews on it. Also on YT from those small numbers in the know they've loved having a 4 door rear wheel drive car option again. Just wasn't marketed very well perhaps .. Watch this ..
This is a fun and somewhat rapturous video on the SS. They absolutely loved it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbLweooe3aM Bottom line is that both GM and Ford big wigs only really paid lip service to our stuff anyway. At least GM did allow for both RHD and LHD iliteration . Was talk some time back that Ford briefly had notions on Falcon in the U.S. including the Barra 6 as potentially a police car but nothing came of it as we know.. They have a link to two door " real muscle cars" but four door "sedans" no matter how capable just don't rate the same and are niche cars it seems. Ah well , they're the bosses , their choice no matter what we think . Cheers Rod. |
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27-05-2017, 12:00 PM | #7 | |||
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http://www.caradvice.com.au/480314/h...l-beyond-2017/ Cheers Rod.. Last edited by roddy1960; 27-05-2017 at 12:07 PM. |
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27-05-2017, 12:48 PM | #8 | ||
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i think it's the same as here, where everyone who says they want one goes and buys a SUV instead.
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27-05-2017, 01:04 PM | #9 | ||
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27-05-2017, 01:13 PM | #10 | ||
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That would no doubt partially be a factor; but the feedback seems to be the design was too conservative, and the price too high (particularly for a GM product).
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27-05-2017, 01:18 PM | #11 | ||
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All of Holden's models exported to the US failed to achieve the expected sales volumes.
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27-05-2017, 01:52 PM | #12 | ||
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27-05-2017, 02:34 PM | #13 | ||
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30-05-2017, 11:46 PM | #14 | ||
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This is apart from the 2 milliin cars imported into the US each year from Japan or Canada. Or the 1 million plus from Mexico, or the 700,000 plus from South Korea or Germany?????? Very selective Union!!!!!
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31-05-2017, 05:48 AM | #15 | ||
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I'm sure they would have liked to have sold quite a few more units than they did.
They even went to the trouble of making the SS the default GM NASCAR body shape. |
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31-05-2017, 07:21 AM | #16 | ||
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Everything I have seen from the US said it drives great, but it looks like a boring hire car or taxi.
Looking at the cars that do sell, it was just too boring visually. And those wanting muscle are probably also far more inclined to stick with American muscle. I have always thought that if the falcon was styled aggressively, they fixed the 'they all do that' issues that were never addressed, and updated the interior, it's a vehicle that could have been marketed well in the US. It has American heritage, and throw in some Mad Max themes... they'd eat it up. Last edited by Sabantien; 31-05-2017 at 07:35 AM. |
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31-05-2017, 08:36 AM | #17 | ||
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I think the looks killed it, let's be honest compared to it's rivals over there it looked like a bloated Korean car
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31-05-2017, 11:02 AM | #18 | |||
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Compared to the likes of Chrysler and Dodge (for example) the Commie would've looked very watered down (to allot of Americans) It's a shame because Holden designers produced some great looking concept and production cars (like Camaro) |
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31-05-2017, 06:03 PM | #19 | ||
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The Chevrolet SS was deliberately set up to sell in small numbers. If it sold in huge numbers, the way CAFE fuel economy standard are in the US, it would have affected GM's overall CAFE number and incurred added Tax. You also have to consider the SS was NEVER going to be replaced so why spend up big building up a large following for the product if the consumer wont be back to buy another.
The exterior styling was also heavily panned by US consumers as being bland and the interior quality didn't match expectations at its price point. I think this proves how conservative the Australian consumer is to be honest. Whilst most Aussies appreciate the subtle muscularity of the VE/F Commodore, the wider world market obviously disagrees. Don't get me wrong, the Commodore is/was a fantastic product. But it wasn't suited to the US market as many people believe, and like the Falcon, is now past its prime.
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31-05-2017, 06:30 PM | #20 | ||
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Australian buyers have different tastes when it comes to styling, we prefer euro styling. Americans prefer more outlandish "look at me" styling. That's why they called it "bland". The Commodore is far from bland. Bland is a white Toyota Avalon.
The Monaro was hindered by being a design near the end of it's cycle. The G8 stood the best chance but was hindered by our high dollar at the time. The Chev SS was intentionally sold in small numbers. Either way, I reckon it's cool at least one half of the Aussie muscle scene was sold overseas. It's a shame the Falcon never made it, they would have loved it too.
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31-05-2017, 07:43 PM | #21 | |||
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Chrysler 300 sales 2005 144k 2011 36K 2012 70k (assuming the updated model was released this year) In a market the size of the us, 53k is like the falcon getting down to 6k in its final year, not only Aussies have turned their backs on large sedans.
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2009 - 121,715 2010 - 163,257 2011 - 194,631 2012 - 240,193 2013 - 244,771 2014 - 222,829 2015 - 253,230 |
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01-06-2017, 08:58 AM | #23 | ||
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A very clever re-use of a mid 90s Merc-Benz platform if we are talking about the same Chrysler 300C platform.
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And the only thing that has kept FCA alive after the GFC has been two legacy platforms gifted to them from Daimler (the LX platform and the Jeep Grand Cherokee) and those hugely profitable Ram pickups.
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