T3 TE50 or BA GT - Page 5

Steffo · 30-07-2005, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

So what exactly is your point?? What do you call modern technology?
Would you like rocket powered cars or something?!!

Or maybe cars made from your magical super light weight material called "steffalloy"!!

Was just a bit of a joke actually

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But if you wanna ask what I'd like to see in cars..

http://www.coatesengine.com/look_mom_no_camshaft.html

Enjoy!

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Originally Posted by Coates International website

Where the CSRV really shines is in its airflow potential compared to a poppet valve Bench-marking a 5.0 L engine from a Lincoln, the stock Ford casting (when tested at 28 inches of H2O) flowed approximately 180 cfm on the intake port at static. The rotary valve for the engine in comparison flowed a whopping 319-cfm at the same test pressure. Equipped with the poppet valve head, the Lincoln engine dynoed at 260 hp and 249 lb.-ft of torque. When equipped with the CSRV head at the same 5,500 rpm test protocol, it made 475 hp and 454 lb.-ft of torque, with no changes to the block or rotating assembly: The higher power was a result of diminished frictional and pumping losses, but the inherent airflow benefit of the spherical valve was the major contributor. With a conventional poppet valve, it can take 34 degrees of crankshaft rotation or more to reach a fully open position, wasting energy and limiting volumetric efficiency. With the CSRV, a comparable port area is exposed in only 2 degrees of crank rotation. The CSRV allows for superior surface flow coefficients from its spherical shape. With the standard 4-inch Ford bore, the factory poppet valve covers only 15.8 percent of the total bore area, while the rotary valve is measured at 20.5 percent.

I think BMW also have a similar camless technology.

4Vman · 30-07-2005, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

Was just a bit of a joke actually

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But if you wanna ask what I'd like to see in cars..

http://www.coatesengine.com/look_mom_no_camshaft.html

Enjoy!

I think BMW also have a similar camless technology.

Interesting reading, that concept has been around for ages too but i wont hold my breath waiting for it to become mainstream technology.
Durability and cost efectiveness would limit its production worth.
When we see this technology in F1 you'll know the car manufacturers are looking at it seriously.

**Falcon Coupe** · 30-07-2005, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

Yep.. a big step forward from technology designed in 1913 to technology designed in 1917.. ah advancement

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As usual, Steffo knows better than the Ford motor company... :togo:
Do you actually read half the crap you type.

Steffo · 30-07-2005, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

As usual, Steffo knows better than the Ford motor company... :togo:
Do you actually read half the crap you type.

Did you read my post that followed that.. or was that too difficult to do?

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HEMI POWER · 30-07-2005, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by t2te50

On a different note my t2 gets 14 litres per hundred in suburban 60 km traffic by skipping 2 and fourth gear. Does 9 on the highway. What's your economy like on the modular Mr XA coupe?

My BA GT gets 13.8 L /100 kays around town.I have managed 520 kays on a full tank.

t2te50 · 30-07-2005, 02:52 PM

Fpv gt are you fibbing? If not how did you manage that around town?

t2te50 · 30-07-2005, 02:56 PM

As long as where all content and don't drive one of those strut tower flexing rear tyre munching dunnydoors I'm happy. God damn I wish I knew how to operate this blasted thig Ive got great pics of our au fairlane sportsman in meteorite with xr8 springs and tickford sunroof, and my venom build 13 te with sunroof bigger brakes and 18 iunch azzuro's.

rodderz · 30-07-2005, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by FPVGT

My BA GT gets 13.8 L /100 kays around town.I have managed 520 kays on a full tank.

Mine gets pretty similar Alex, although there are a few freeway/highway trips which keep the lt/100 down

Average around 450-500km a tank

**Falcon Coupe** · 30-07-2005, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

Did you read my post that followed that.. or was that too difficult to do?

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Im over reading your spew Steffo, that's what it mostly is.

XA-Coupe · 30-07-2005, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by t2te50

On a different note my t2 gets 14 litres per hundred in suburban 60 km traffic by skipping 2 and fourth gear. Does 9 on the highway. What's your economy like on the modular Mr XA coupe?

what has this to do with anything at all?? If you must know , I am about the same as FPVGT but I will point something out - my car goes a hell of a lot faster than a T2 and that doesn't come without a premium .. and that is fuel consumption. If fuel consumption is a concern, buy yourself a Hyundai Getz.

t2te50 · 30-07-2005, 03:36 PM

No need to arc up so you have seven tenths over me at each of the vital increments I can live with that. Premium is 1.27 if you haven't realised, I put in $40 today for only 30 litres! wait until they shed some meat off the pig in later incarnations of the BA then she 'll get up and boooogy. cousins xr6 turbo auto probably 1/2 a second quicker little disappointed after he tried to show off very slow off the mark. Increased levels of road insulation and more complient ride is the only thing I noticed in the BA.

Casper · 30-07-2005, 03:39 PM

t2te50, do yourself a favour. Have your say by all means but if you keep referring to the BA (or any car for that manner) in derogitory terms you will find you run out of friends here quickly.

HEMI POWER · 30-07-2005, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by t2te50

Fpv gt are you fibbing? If not how did you manage that around town?

I am not fibbing mate it's what i get out of my BA GT.I have a few mods so this might help it out.The most i have ever seen mine is at around 16-17L/100 on my computer display.

t2te50 · 30-07-2005, 03:49 PM

Hey man I've read harsher things then what I've wrote and you know what they say if you can't take the heat in the kitchen get out because everyone eluded my economy, reliability issues that Ive brought up. It's just how big is my dick talk thats the only response I get.
I hope she stands up mate because as you probably now by know I'm a pesimist because of past experiences with overally sophisticared machinery. Don't take my views to heart.

Casper · 30-07-2005, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by t2te50

Hey man I've read harsher things then what I've wrote and you know what they say if you can't take the heat in the kitchen get out because everyone eluded my economy, reliability issues that Ive brought up. It's just how big is my dick talk thats the only response I get.

I dont have to get out of the kitchen. As for harsher things, the BA/T3 discussions gets special attention because of its extream flaming history.
Please tone it down and keep it calm or I will lock this thread.

XA-Coupe · 30-07-2005, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by t2te50

No need to arc up so you have seven tenths over me at each of the vital increments I can live with that. Premium is 1.27 if you haven't realised, I put in $40 today for only 30 litres! wait until they shed some meat off the pig in later incarnations of the BA then she 'll get up and boooogy. cousins xr6 turbo auto probably 1/2 a second quicker little disappointed after he tried to show off very slow off the mark. Increased levels of road insulation and more complient ride is the only thing I noticed in the BA.

When I got the XR8 I made a conscious decision that meant that fuel consumption is not a primary concern. My Sprint was heaps more economical than the BA but got comprehensivley flogged by it. The wheezer is a nioce engine but it's time has been and gone, just like the legendary Cleveland.
I am well aware of what Ultimate costs, 70 bucks to fill it on friday ( it was very near completely empty ) and I wasn't happy but I don't drink or smoke so it's my vice. Again, if I wanted economy, I would buy a Getz
My BA boogeys quite well thanks, look in the timeslips section and you will see my time.

HEMI POWER · 30-07-2005, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by t2te50

Hey man I've read harsher things then what I've wrote and you know what they say if you can't take the heat in the kitchen get out because everyone eluded my economy, reliability issues that Ive brought up. It's just how big is my dick talk thats the only response I get.
I hope she stands up mate because as you probably now by know I'm a pesimist because of past experiences with overally sophisticared machinery. Don't take my views to heart.

I suppose u are right,but at the end of it they are both build by the same company.

Tornado · 30-07-2005, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Casper

I dont have to get out of the kitchen. As for harsher things, the BA/T3 discussions gets special attention because of its extream flaming history.
Please tone it down and keep it calm or I will lock this thread.

None of this recent talk is helping GTENVY out.
Perhaps it should be closed, all this crap between these two cars is giving me the s#1ts, why do people continue to take sides and bag the crap out of them.

Both cars are great and thay feel very different when you drive them.
Some love the Gt some the T-Series, leave it at that.

I had the choice between these two cars and I chose the T-Series beacuse I prefer the feel of it over the GT, doesn't mean there is something wrong with the GT, I just prefer the feel of the T-Series and I wasn't going to buy the GT just because it's a GT. Its only a name and I don't care what its called, be it XR8 or GTHO I will buy the CAR that feels better to ME not a NAME.

Both very different cars.... Get over it

Casper · 30-07-2005, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tornado

None of this recent talk is helping GTENVY out.
Perhaps it should be closed, all this crap between these two cars is giving me the s#1ts, why do people continue to take sides and bag the crap out of them.

Both cars are great and thay feel very different when you drive them.
Some love the Gt some the T-Series, leave it at that.

I had the choice between these two cars and I chose the T-Series beacuse I prefer the feel of it over the GT, doesn't mean there is something wrong with the GT, I just prefer the feel of the T-Series and I wasn't going to buy the GT just because it's a GT. Its only a name and I don't care what its called, be it XR8 or GTHO I will buy the CAR that feels better to ME not a NAME.

Both very different cars.... Get over it

yep, 2 different cars, 2 different choices... neither are wrong.

There will be no more derogitory remarks made about either.

XHII V8S · 30-07-2005, 05:01 PM

speaking of TS50's, Will the inlet manifold from a TS bolt up to my 1998 XHII V8?? What else will fit?

Casper · 30-07-2005, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by XHII V8S

speaking of TS50's, Will the inlet manifold from a TS bolt up to my 1998 XHII V8?? What else will fit?

probably best to start a new thread in the Windsor section about that.

Laminge · 30-07-2005, 05:50 PM

Ohh Gawd~

**Falcon Coupe** · 30-07-2005, 06:04 PM

Casper, i see you're button finger getting itchy again.......

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clontarf_x · 31-07-2005, 03:54 AM

I drove a BA MK2 GT when i was purchasing my current AU3 XR6 VCT ST, and I must say the V8 is a very nice engine to feel pulsing away under the peddle. If only I could drive a TE50... would they handle much differently to an AU3?

P.S Anyone wanna sell me a cheap turbo?

Tornado · 31-07-2005, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by clontarf_x

I drove a BA MK2 GT when i was purchasing my current AU3 XR6 VCT ST, and I must say the V8 is a very nice engine to feel pulsing away under the peddle. If only I could drive a TE50... would they handle much differently to an AU3?

P.S Anyone wanna sell me a cheap turbo?

I think the T3 TE50 and the AU3 XR have the same suspension setup, so it would feel the same, as far as handling goes.

t2te50 · 31-07-2005, 10:42 AM

Your right they are both the same but I think due to the increased weight over the front end either changed the ratio of the pinon/rack or pump pressure is up or a bit of both because their not as sharp. On road adhesion is probably better or on par. Mine seems slightly over steery?

**Chris** · 31-07-2005, 10:53 AM

BA XR8 Auto (leave ma alone jeff)

consistent 12 sec car

16-17 at the pump, even with 4.1 diff gears.

It gets driven the way a V8 should.

XA-Coupe · 31-07-2005, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris

BA XR8 Auto (leave ma alone jeff)

Do you really think that I would stoop as low as to say that autos are for poofs??? :Reverend:

Steffo · 31-07-2005, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

Im over reading your spew Steffo, that's what it mostly is.

Interperet however you like. Or make an excuse for not paying attention. Whatever.

As for the original question, which to get.. drive both and see is the best answer that anyone could give. You can read 1,000,000 pages about said vehicle, and then when you drive it, everything that you read in those 1,000,000 pages could quite possibly mean sweet f*** all compared to the experience.

Psycho Chicken · 31-07-2005, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

As for the original question, which to get.. drive both and see is the best answer that anyone could give. You can read 1,000,000 pages about said vehicle, and then when you drive it, everything that you read in those 1,000,000 pages could quite possibly mean sweet f*** all compared to the experience.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=irony