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[Jim Goose]

Very tragic....!!

Three killed in Werribee smash

Updated 15 minutes ago
Werribee car crash


Two teenagers and a 22-year-old man are dead and another teenager is in hospital after a car crash at Werribee in Victoria's south.

Police say the driver lost control of the car and smashed into a power pole at the intersection of Bulban Road and Thoroughbred Avenue about 9:20am.

A 17-year-old boy and a 16-year-old girl who were both in the back seat were thrown from the vehicle and died at the scene.

The 22-year-old driver suffered critical injuries and died later in Melbourne's Alfred Hospital.

A second 16-year-old girl is in hospital in a stable condition.

Paramedic Darren Hodge says it was a shocking scene.

"To see a car that's almost torn in two by a light pole and then to see ambulance towels 50 metres away with people laying underneath them, it's terrible," he said.

"It's terrible for the people that heard that bang and would have come out to help."

Mr Hodge says the loss of the three young lives will have a huge impact on the community.

"There will probably be people getting a knock on their door by police right as we speak, being told that their children have been killed in a car accident," he said.

"The ripple effect that has on their community and their friends is horrific."

Investigations are underway into the crash.

[GTP owner]

That is a horrible looking picture.

[g220ba]

Knowing Bulban rd rather well it doesn't really surprise me that this has happened. It's essentially an arrow straight stretch of road with a series of bumps and crests, by the look of it they were heading toward werribee and lost control with what looks like a fair amount of speed.

The speed limit at that particular part of the road is 80km/h but i would hazard a guess they would've been doing a bit more than that, this is common place with my experience of that particular road.

Such a tragedy to see this happen on such a regular basis.

[SEZ213]

It took me a long time to figure out that was a wagon. Not a pretty sight. I was going to ask if it was 60 or 80, but you've answered my question...

This kind of sight makes me incredibly sad...

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by ADZILLA

I'm taxing those sub boxes.

What? If that means what I think it means you deserve a holiday.

Thats horrific, such a waste.

[Full Noise]

Originally Posted by Polyal

Thats horrific, such a waste.

For the passengers perhaps.

As for the oxygen thief driving, well, thankfully he didn’t take out another motorist.

[flappist]

Why is it at every accident so many are absolutely sure that it was hooning gone wrong.

This place can be such a lynch mob.

No one here has any idea at all what actually caused this tragedy. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty........

[SEZ213]

Hrmmm...I wouldn't go so far as to call him an oxygen thief...however, can this type of damage be done at 80km's an hour??

[Rangas GTP]

Originally Posted by ADZILLA

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That photo made my hair stand on end, yet you come up with a stupid remark as that. Dont think I need to ask your age, GROW UP YOU FOOL.
Condolences to all involved.

[Full Noise]

Originally Posted by flappist

Why is it at every accident so many are absolutely sure that it was hooning gone wrong.

With respect,
Spend a little time in the area and you’ll see for yourself.

Originally Posted by flappist

What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty........

I thought that only applied to the rich and well connected.

Originally Posted by Sezzy

Can this type of damage be done at 80km's an hour??

Yeah, it doesn’t take much to twist one of those like a paperclip.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Sezzy

Hrmmm...I wouldn't go so far as to call him an oxygen thief...however, can this type of damage be done at 80km's an hour??

My car was F'd when I t-boned someone at around 90km/h, so imagine doing that sideways into a pole, yes thats entirely possible. Doesn't matter on the car, hit something like study sideways in anything and its going to come out like a banana.

Who says it was speeding/hooning? Bald tyres, oil on the road, car unsettled from hitting something, inexperienced driver at the wheel. All possible. The only people who know the exact details are unfortunately dead.

[MAGPIE]

Originally Posted by flappist

No one here has any idea at all what actually caused this tragedy. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty........

Given the information that has been supplied in this thread (Speed Limit of 80 and photo) it's hard not to come to that conclusion.

The photo imho clearly suggests that the speed prior to impact was well in excess of that speed limit.

[Road_Warrior]

Ugh is that blood I can see on the power pole

[galaxy xr8]

Very sad indeed , I feel for those that have the horrible job of cleaning it up and dealing with it 1'st hand and for the police that have to make that horrible knock at someone's door.

[Ezz]

This is terrible news... i feel for the families & everyone involved. Too many young people don't know how to control a car properly in given situations. I do hope he wasn't being silly... my thoughts & prayers to the victims & families.

[XR Martin]

If they slid off the road at 80kmh, you wouldnt hit the pole at 80km remember. You would wash off quite a bit of speed sideways on a tarmac road in the dry. And this that case you've also got the gutter and nature strip to slow you down there too.

That is certainly a well-over-the-limit accident.

[flappist]

Well I know how all the states can save a fortune.

Disband all of the Forensic Investigation Units and just use all the free expert advice available on AFF.

Someone's son has died.
Someone's friend has died.
Someone's workmate has died.

None of you have any idea whatsoever so how about you pull your heads in until the truth is actually revealed and show a little respect.

[Bobman]

Sad loss of lives and there have been a number of fatals in Werribee/Hoppers Crossing over the last few years involving teenagers.

[flappist]

Originally Posted by Bobman

22 year old driver with teenagers on board late at night on a Friday/Saturday.

Would those asking to show respect be saying the same thing if one of their family member's was on board?

Sad loss of lives, however there have been a number of fatals in Werribee/Hoppers Crossing over the last few years involving teenagers.

Well funny you should mention that.

My little brother was killed on Feb 7 this year and there were quite a few suspicious circumstances.

The coroner took several weeks to exonerate all involved.

So how would I feel now if I had treated them the same way you are treating these?

edit: I see you have taken your first comments out. I too find it is usually better to think about things more than once before typing them on the forum.

[Ben73]

Everyone is saying it was probably a young person who couldn't control the car properly. And that is probably true.
Still it is not compulsory for young drives to learn how to control a car on a wet skid pad.

The government will say if you are not speeding you will have more time to react and if you do hit something, you will hit it slower. But what is the point of having lots of reaction time if you do not know how to react and control the situation?

[galaxy xr8]

Originally Posted by Ben73

Everyone is saying it was probably a young person who couldn't control the car properly. And that is probably true.
Still it is not compulsory for young drives to learn how to control a car on a wet skid pad.

The government will say if you are not speeding you will have more time to react and if you do hit something, you will hit it slower. But what is the point of having lots of reaction time if you do not know how to react and control the situation?

That's really another debate alltogether and has been thrown around here many times and I won't go into it as the past has shown, it get's heated.

But car control and respect should go hand in hand, learn how to control a vehicle in all condition's and drive to those condition's, and respect all other driver's and the condition's.

[Low006]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Ugh is that blood I can see on the power pole

It looks like it's paint from the vehicle mate.

[yakcam]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Ugh is that blood I can see on the power pole

I believe it looks like paint above the vehicle, but lower, inside the car, yes I believe it is... Not a sight for young eyes... but, sadly, one that should be seen by young eyes...

Cheers,

Kraig

[FordFalconBF]

Delete.

[Franco Cozzo]

Waiting for the QUICK BAN ALL P PLATERS FROM DRIVING WAGONS!

[2011G6E]

I won't jump to conclusions about the speed they were doing until I see an official report. Even then, if it simply says "excessive speed", I won't jump...that could mean 85 in an 80 zone. Hell, in some adverse conditions (at night, in the rain, on gravel roads), even sticking dead on the speed limit could be considered "excessive speed" in an accident report.

Many people aren't aware of the damage that is done to a vehicle, especially side-on, hitting a solid immoveable object like that pole. Scientific studies have, uncomfortably, shown that hitting a "solid unyielding object" (power pole, bridge pylon, bloody big tree) at anything from 80kph onwards is "basically unsurviveable". The human body just can't take that sort of decelleration that quickly...airbags or no airbags. Oh yes, sometimes you will see people walk away from monumental crashes, but they are the one-in-a-million lucky chance, and can't be used as an example of what normally happens.

Motor vehicles aren't built to take such an impact from the side. They're built to be struck from front or rear, and to a lesser extent from the side, but even a five star crash rating isn't going to help when you slide sideways into a power pole at maybe 80kph.
It's far too easy for the media and police to just say "Oh they must have been speeding", without making hard investigation into uncomfortable areas such as the fact that you will probably die in a good solid impact even if you are sticking religiously to the speed limit...can't frighten the sheep and make them aware of the fact that driving a car is a serious business they have to give thier full concentration to and not treat it as an automatic skill, can we...?

[FPV8U]

Hitting a pole in a old commodore wagon sideways.. do any of you guys actually know it had to be doing more than 50 or 60 or 70 at point of contact?

I don't... i'd suggest many of us don't, unless qualified to make such claims perhaps considering 3 people with long lives ahead of them have died would could keep our mouths shut.

TBH i can't belive we arn't allowed to talk about political matters but we can sit here throwing darts at the dead all night long.

[bob129]

It was also reported on the ch 7 news that the occupants weren't wearing seat belts, hence being thrown from the car. Looking at the car, wearing a seatbelt probably wouldn't have helped that much, but might have given them a fighting chance...
I can't see any skid marks on the bitumen there either....

[NAFairlane]

It's things like this that make me wonder how i can still drive like a dick. My condolences to the friends and family's, i can't imagine what it must be like for them.

[TheInterceptor]

Wow... Fact is it's very easy to lose control, especially when you dont know how the car reacts when thrown about on a dodgy road at speed nor how to rectify the car once it goes.

This just reminded me to go book an advanced driver course...
R.i.p.