Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 13-06-2006, 12:45 PM   #1
EF, What else?
A Bloke
 
EF, What else?'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Far North Queensland, Australia
Posts: 703
Default New Speed Camera being considered for Victoria

Now, I did a search and came up with nothing. (Just to make that perfectly clear to everyone).

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117...10-421,00.html

4 Lanes of Traffic! Geez, you Victorians are really starting to get your balls squeezed by this government. I wonder if this will help convert those who still believe that its primarily for road safety. What advantage does a 4lane speed camera have over a single lane camera? If a single lane camera is there, people will still slow down won't they? And don't tell me that drivers pick what lanes they speed in, please.

__________________
"So I said ... lol ... get this, I said your girlfriend looks like a koala!" :
EF, What else? is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-06-2006, 12:51 PM   #2
Izoom
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 37
Default

Quote from the article “The super spy, dubbed The Daddy, has four lenses and two flashes for total road coverage”

And more to go wrong!!!
Izoom is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-06-2006, 12:55 PM   #3
Quicklier
Perfecting the 1-2 change
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Preston, Victoria
Posts: 606
Default

Hopefully it won't be hidden. Actually, I know that it will be.
Melbourne has one of the largest land areas for a city on the planet, yet we probably have the stricktest speed policing measures. We need to travel the most, yet are penalised for stepping over the 'limit'. They're not fussed in providing speedo testing areas (for free) to promote safe driving.
__________________
MY02 Subaru Forester GT
XC Fairmont - Project Thread Here
Quicklier is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-06-2006, 01:03 PM   #4
LTDHO
The one and only
 
LTDHO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Carrum Downs, Victoria
Posts: 9,053
Default

it comes to ne surprise to me.

more concerned about income than lives.
__________________
1992 DC LTDHO 360rwkw built by me
Tuned by CVE Performance
Going of the rails on a crazy train
Other cars include Dynamic ED Sprint, Dynamic DL LTD, Sparkling Burgundy DL LTD, Yellow, Red & Blue XB sedan & Black XB Coupe
LTDHO is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-06-2006, 01:13 PM   #5
EDManual
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
EDManual's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,710
Default

"The cameras are believed to cost more than $100,000 each, but collect much more revenue than conventional cameras"

That quote sums it up.
EDManual is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-06-2006, 01:17 PM   #6
Jeeepers
Merry Xmas To All
 
Jeeepers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Melton South, Moderator: ORSM Club
Posts: 3,413
Default

Ahhhh Victoria, The Revenue State. I even saw an article of a concealed camera in a wheelie bin. Though I can't confirm whether it was a mockup or not. But it looked sneaky enough to be legit.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Wheelie bin.jpg (5.3 KB, 261 views)
Jeeepers is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-06-2006, 01:19 PM   #7
Sorted
OzEcruisers PRESIDENT
 
Sorted's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Melbz
Posts: 15,761
Community Builder: In recognition of those who have helped build the AFF community. - Issue reason: For all the contributions you make to the AFF community. 
Default

Quote:
so some drivers escape fines
If they want the public to think its about road safety this line should of been omitted.

Quote:
comes mounted on a pole with giant spikes to deter vandals
If i get booked by one of these camera I am going to climb the pole then sue them for $1,000's after I get "accidentally" spiked
__________________
1994 Ford Fairmont EF NA 6cyl Man 3.9 diff Sedan
PROEF 13.46 @ 105.78mph

Tuned by DYNOMOTIVE

200BUX - AFF Drag Nats 2019 EF Wagon
Quote:
Originally Posted by rednose View Post
Common knowledge that the more weight you take out of the car the less power you need to run the time.
Sorted is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-06-2006, 01:20 PM   #8
Quicklier
Perfecting the 1-2 change
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Preston, Victoria
Posts: 606
Default

If they really were concerned about lowering the death toll (and serious injury toll), why not make the roads a tad better?

I wouldn't have an issue with speeding fines if I knew it was a not4profit setup. ie, All fines would be pumped into roads, car development, cycle paths, level crossings, freeways, signs, lighting, VicRoads/RTA.... but it isn't. All the revenue just starts to pile up in the piggy bank. That is why I think it is wrong.
__________________
MY02 Subaru Forester GT
XC Fairmont - Project Thread Here
Quicklier is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-06-2006, 01:24 PM   #9
Walkinshaw
Two > One
 
Walkinshaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 7,063
Default

We need to stop whinging. Pollies don't care about the road toll. I can see them sitting back after a fatal car accident complaining that the people who died wont beable to be fined for speeding in the future.
__________________
1978 LTD - 408ci - 11.5@120.6mph -
2004 S4 - 4.2 - M6 - quattro -

Walkinshaw is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-06-2006, 07:19 PM   #10
Kev_BLNXR8_Ute
Hmm Project XW VAN !!!!
 
Kev_BLNXR8_Ute's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: In a house
Posts: 2,793
Default

The whole road toll issue is a little false to some degree. Dont get me wrong we dont want any Deaths.

But

All they look at is number of deaths.
If they actually looked at the amount of registered cars on the road it shows a different figure.
I think they should do it on 2 levels.
Have the number of deaths but then also compare it to the amount of drivers on the roads and Im pretty sure the figure would show a significant drop in deaths if that makes sence.

Just my 2 cents



Kev
__________________
I'd rather be BLOWN than stroked

Yella Terra Supercharged

Power Output?
ENOUGH TO BREAK EVERY THING MORE TIMES THAN I CARE TO COUNT


POWERED BY VISA MASTERCARD AND MORE VISA
(And now a mortgage extension)

Disclaimer :

: Anything that seems or sounds illegal is all in my head and due to an over active imagination... :
Kev_BLNXR8_Ute is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-06-2006, 07:25 PM   #11
MickyB
Get in the ring!!!
 
MickyB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Mornington Peninsula
Posts: 888
Default

If it has spikes then we'll just have to make orange cannons and blow the buggers up from a distance. I'm all for saving lives, but this is ridiculous.
__________________
FG MKII XR6T - Tuned by Pit Lane
MickyB is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-06-2006, 08:12 PM   #12
HLC
Audi S3
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Sydney.
Posts: 8,307
Default

hahahahahahahahahha sucks to be a victorian
__________________
HLC is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-06-2006, 08:40 PM   #13
Panda
XR6 and XR8 Club of QLD
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Gladstone, CQ
Posts: 396
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kev_xr8_ute
The whole road toll issue is a little false to some degree. Dont get me wrong we dont want any Deaths.

But

All they look at is number of deaths.
If they actually looked at the amount of registered cars on the road it shows a different figure.
I think they should do it on 2 levels.
Have the number of deaths but then also compare it to the amount of drivers on the roads and Im pretty sure the figure would show a significant drop in deaths if that makes sence.

Kev
Like this ??

Panda
__________________
Car - Ford Falcon XR6 Turbo
Panda is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-06-2006, 08:50 PM   #14
Aussie Falcon
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Aussie Falcon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NSW
Posts: 586
Default

bloody hell I wonder how long before an angry motorist aims a BFG at this camera.
Aussie Falcon is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-06-2006, 10:17 PM   #15
Keepleft
Mot Adv-NSW
 
Keepleft's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Lake Macquarie, NSW
Posts: 2,153
Default

REDFIN - From memory the wheelie bin camera was ACT based. Don't hold me to that.

Insofar the Victorian camera issue, in the recent VIC budget - it was made clear that they offer "no apology" for their ongoing 'efforts' at reducing the Victorian road toll, and that these efforts will continue.

You will get more of the same with even greater strategy.
Keepleft is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-06-2006, 10:19 PM   #16
BA_Turbs
Allan Smithee
 
BA_Turbs's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: SE Melbourne
Posts: 458
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by redfin
Ahhhh Victoria, The Revenue State. I even saw an article of a concealed camera in a wheelie bin. Though I can't confirm whether it was a mockup or not. But it looked sneaky enough to be legit.
Those pictures have been around for years, in no way connected to Victoria.



As far as these new cameras go... Its getting to be complete bullshi*. For F(riar T)uck's sake, I'm updating my pushie.
__________________
1974 XB Falcon 500 Station Wagon - 250, 3 speed auto and running like a 2015 model
1999 AU Wagon Petrol/LPG - Cheap run around, but still a great car!
2014 PX XLT Ranger 4x4 Auto getting set up as an off road touring rig
BA_Turbs is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-06-2006, 10:24 PM   #17
Casper
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Contributing Member
 
Casper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 12,083
Default

yay more revenue.

Wonder if Bracks will be the first pollie assasinated in Australia? Got to get decent odds you'd think.
__________________
Older, wiser, poorer.


Now in Euro-Trash. VW Coupe V6 4motion.
Casper is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-06-2006, 10:31 PM   #18
Smoked
Burnin Rubber
 
Smoked's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Posts: 1,824
Default

Can a pushie set off a camera if it goes past one faster than the limit?
__________________
2001 AUII Forte (LPG)
K&N Air Filter
Tickford Air Intake
***Coming Soon: Clear Side Repeaters***
Quote:
Originally Posted by The-ShowStoPPa
...dont get me wrong this 3.8v6 is pretty special, it does come with the popular shake rattle and roll option and the auto compliments this with the ever popular snap crackle and pop feature
Smoked is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-06-2006, 10:32 PM   #19
Casper
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Contributing Member
 
Casper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 12,083
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smoked
Can a pushie set off a camera if i goes past one faster than the limit?
yep.. and trust me you can do 50kph+ on a pushie with a quick burst
Jacks the hidden camera operators off after a while too..
__________________
Older, wiser, poorer.


Now in Euro-Trash. VW Coupe V6 4motion.
Casper is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-06-2006, 10:34 PM   #20
Smoked
Burnin Rubber
 
Smoked's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Posts: 1,824
Default

Oh i know you can get alot of speed, food for thought.
__________________
2001 AUII Forte (LPG)
K&N Air Filter
Tickford Air Intake
***Coming Soon: Clear Side Repeaters***
Quote:
Originally Posted by The-ShowStoPPa
...dont get me wrong this 3.8v6 is pretty special, it does come with the popular shake rattle and roll option and the auto compliments this with the ever popular snap crackle and pop feature
Smoked is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-06-2006, 10:35 PM   #21
Falcon Coupe
Clevo Mafia Inc.
 
Falcon Coupe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 10,496
Chairman's Award: Chairman's Award - Issue reason: The exceptional contribution made to AFF over an extended period of time. Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: Your tireless efforts behind the scenes in keeping AFF the place it is. 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Casper
yay more revenue.

Wonder if Bracks will be the first pollie assasinated in Australia? Got to get decent odds you'd think.
It's already happened, but with a cream pie.
Falcon Coupe is online now   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 14-06-2006, 02:09 AM   #22
LethalLeigh
Get in the van!
 
LethalLeigh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Adelaide, SA
Posts: 1,110
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by redfin
Ahhhh Victoria, The Revenue State. I even saw an article of a concealed camera in a wheelie bin. Though I can't confirm whether it was a mockup or not. But it looked sneaky enough to be legit.
They just brought in a 'wheelie bin' camera to SA about 3 months ago. Haven't seen it yet though, and no fines to suggest I should have. :P
__________________
The Dad Bus (TM): 2004 BA XT Wagon, soon to be set up as a camper and tourer.
LethalLeigh is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 14-06-2006, 07:58 AM   #23
merlin
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
merlin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sydney
Posts: 1,974
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Panda
Like this ??

Panda
Everytime some bleeding heart whines about lowering the speed limit this graph should be pulled out.
__________________
1966 Ford Mustang coupe. 347 stroker, PA reverse manual C4, TCE high stall converter, B&M Pro Ratchet, Edelbrock alum heads, Edelbrock intake manifold, MSD ignition, Holley Street HP 750 CFM carb, gilmer drive, wrapped Hooker Super Comp Headers, dual 3" straight through exhaust, Bilstein shocks, custom springs, full poly suspension, American Racing rims, Open Tracker roller spring saddles and shelby drop.

Still to go - Holley Sniper EFI with integrated fuel cell.
merlin is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 14-06-2006, 10:26 AM   #24
LTDHO
The one and only
 
LTDHO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Carrum Downs, Victoria
Posts: 9,053
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Keepleft
Insofar the Victorian camera issue, in the recent VIC budget - it was made clear that they offer "no apology" for their ongoing 'efforts' at reducing the Victorian road toll, and that these efforts will continue.
I will not reduce the road toll though! They just want the public to think it will!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Casper
Wonder if Bracks will be the first pollie assasinated in Australia? Got to get decent odds you'd think.
maybe he needs to go for a swim where Holt did!
__________________
1992 DC LTDHO 360rwkw built by me
Tuned by CVE Performance
Going of the rails on a crazy train
Other cars include Dynamic ED Sprint, Dynamic DL LTD, Sparkling Burgundy DL LTD, Yellow, Red & Blue XB sedan & Black XB Coupe
LTDHO is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 15-06-2006, 09:19 AM   #25
Kev_BLNXR8_Ute
Hmm Project XW VAN !!!!
 
Kev_BLNXR8_Ute's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: In a house
Posts: 2,793
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Panda
Like this ??

Panda
Thats about the size of it.

Thanks Glad it made some sence....


Kev
__________________
I'd rather be BLOWN than stroked

Yella Terra Supercharged

Power Output?
ENOUGH TO BREAK EVERY THING MORE TIMES THAN I CARE TO COUNT


POWERED BY VISA MASTERCARD AND MORE VISA
(And now a mortgage extension)

Disclaimer :

: Anything that seems or sounds illegal is all in my head and due to an over active imagination... :
Kev_BLNXR8_Ute is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 15-06-2006, 10:34 AM   #26
LTDHO
The one and only
 
LTDHO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Carrum Downs, Victoria
Posts: 9,053
Default

Melbourne Herald Sun ran a poll yesterday.

80.9% of ill-informed Victorians agree with having it.
__________________
1992 DC LTDHO 360rwkw built by me
Tuned by CVE Performance
Going of the rails on a crazy train
Other cars include Dynamic ED Sprint, Dynamic DL LTD, Sparkling Burgundy DL LTD, Yellow, Red & Blue XB sedan & Black XB Coupe
LTDHO is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 04:31 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL