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14-05-2005, 09:55 PM
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Has my Auto Died in the ***????
Ive been having a wierd problem where the car has been holding in gears when downshifting from 2nd to 3rd in POWER MODE 3rd to 4th in ECONOMY MODE i.e Even thou my foot is off the pedal, it holds 3rd and then 2seconds later jumps forward to 4th. Now Tonight while driving home, It decided that 4th gear DIDNT EXIST in POWER or ECONOMY mode... like its a 3 speed? And when I slowed down it slammed hard when going from 3 to 2 to 1 BUT when i take off it shifts smoothly thru all gears BUT again NO 4th gear!!!! Is this something as simple as a Inhibitor switch? Or Some other sensor? Or has my box died and gone to heaven? I hope its not the auto, I do however have the Community 4 speed auto that I believe WAS owned by Sunny then karl, then Joel and now me... Hope its decent if I need it ;) thanks  out:
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1993 Ford Fairlane NC3 Silver - LTD mockup, Worked V8 & Auto, Fully Optioned, Half of my Audio department at work installed in the car 1993 Ford Falcon XR6 Poly Green Stationwagon - 4.0 I6, Auto, 3:45LSD, All the usual XR6 Stuff but in a wagon  :
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14-05-2005, 10:06 PM
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i never owned the auto. I simply sold it for sunny. when joel got it [put in apparently the trans guy told him it was the best ford 4 speed he'd seen. joel was really happy with the box. it might pay you to grab a copy of the workshop manual and read the trans section and grab a multimetre and sest some things. its a bit hard to diagnose over the internet.
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14-05-2005, 10:24 PM
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CATman had the 3 speed problem, I can't for the life of me remember how he fixed it though...
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14-05-2005, 10:27 PM
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1993 Ford Fairlane NC3 Silver - LTD mockup, Worked V8 & Auto, Fully Optioned, Half of my Audio department at work installed in the car 1993 Ford Falcon XR6 Poly Green Stationwagon - 4.0 I6, Auto, 3:45LSD, All the usual XR6 Stuff but in a wagon :
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14-05-2005, 10:31 PM
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14-05-2005, 10:36 PM
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Hmm Im using the ED Throttlebody with EB/ED/EF/EL style TPS. Now I recently changed it thinking thats the problems but it isnt! cause It was doing it with the old one and the new one.....
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1993 Ford Fairlane NC3 Silver - LTD mockup, Worked V8 & Auto, Fully Optioned, Half of my Audio department at work installed in the car 1993 Ford Falcon XR6 Poly Green Stationwagon - 4.0 I6, Auto, 3:45LSD, All the usual XR6 Stuff but in a wagon :
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14-05-2005, 10:48 PM
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Would HONESTLY the difference between running a ED Throttlebody with ED TPS instead of a DUAL TPS EA Throttle body be causing all this?
The ED TPS is simply wired up to the ECU TPS wires AND the TCU TPS wires. It drove around Fine for weeks when i first converted to MPFI
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1993 Ford Fairlane NC3 Silver - LTD mockup, Worked V8 & Auto, Fully Optioned, Half of my Audio department at work installed in the car 1993 Ford Falcon XR6 Poly Green Stationwagon - 4.0 I6, Auto, 3:45LSD, All the usual XR6 Stuff but in a wagon :
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14-05-2005, 10:52 PM
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You should try my trans controller, Jase has it currently. He thinks it's the only one he's tried that actually works.
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14-05-2005, 10:56 PM
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Tried 3 trans ecu's so far and all with the same problems
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1993 Ford Fairlane NC3 Silver - LTD mockup, Worked V8 & Auto, Fully Optioned, Half of my Audio department at work installed in the car 1993 Ford Falcon XR6 Poly Green Stationwagon - 4.0 I6, Auto, 3:45LSD, All the usual XR6 Stuff but in a wagon :
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15-05-2005, 12:31 AM
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Just put your other throttle body on Mick. Jeezzzuuusss! You're just making shit hard for yourself. I've done the "singly TPS spliced in to the other plug" thingo and it's stuffing up like yours, I get 4th at random. I can't wait to get the ED manifold in and use a dual TPS throttle body. Should run sweet.
P.S other thing you could check is shift linkage but I doubt it, sounds electrical. Sundeep |
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15-05-2005, 09:23 AM
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good luck unbolting the throttle body. those hex bolts are pretty hard to get to espcially the bottom two.
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16-05-2005, 01:13 AM
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 : turns out you are right, we took the car for a fang after the meet, and found it had all 4 gears. But as i drove the car and as it got hotter it was sorta holding gears abit. So.. off to get a Series 2 throttlebody and see what happens
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16-05-2005, 12:29 PM
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Tell me about it - the whole piggybacking wires thing is just full of problems - ever since I did my mpfi conversion there have been niggling problems with gear changes - although I'm now running a Ghia auto computer which is magic. But still every so often it pops up a problem. Like, on the way home the other day it felt like it was trying to lock up the torque converter while slowing down - just really bizarre.
The sooner I convert completely to EB 2 engine management the better. Mick: My car did specifically that when the wires for the trans tps weren't connected properly. |
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16-05-2005, 12:42 PM
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This is just a way of your car telling you it wants a T5!
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16-05-2005, 01:02 PM
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Told ya ****er...lol.
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16-05-2005, 01:02 PM
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awww nah but he has an auto license. lol. :hihi:
Hopefully changing the tps or whatever your doing fixes it. 
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16-05-2005, 01:21 PM
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16-05-2005, 02:06 PM
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LOL T5 is on the way.... I hope to have it in by the end of the year actually ;)
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16-05-2005, 02:38 PM
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I could think of an alternative to a T5... :Reverend: lol
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16-05-2005, 02:42 PM
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1993 Ford Fairlane NC3 Silver - LTD mockup, Worked V8 & Auto, Fully Optioned, Half of my Audio department at work installed in the car 1993 Ford Falcon XR6 Poly Green Stationwagon - 4.0 I6, Auto, 3:45LSD, All the usual XR6 Stuff but in a wagon :
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16-05-2005, 02:45 PM
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my grandfathers auto NC had a similar problem... he didn't have third... 1st 2nd 4th... needed a reco..
cheers
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16-05-2005, 03:21 PM
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 : Santo: (off topic) yes, I *will* post pix soon... I'll look for a charger tonight after work (promise!) -Dave- |
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19-05-2005, 11:33 PM
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Thought Id post up how its going......
Its all FIXED It turned out it was the EB2/ED throttlebody with the moddified TPS wiring. Doesnt work. Sunny was correct :( lol (after telling me 10 times to do it) MY average has dropped to 14.0 flat even with me booting it everywhere AND the car takes off better.....
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