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08-08-2010, 05:18 PM | #1 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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Location: North Coast, NSW
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Hi there FF members,
I have drafted a simple two page "Car Inspection Guide" that I would use to review purchase options for a second hand car. The list would generally be consulted if I was at the stage of being fairly keen on a particular car, after a good first look. The list is not meant to be a mechanics grade type schedule, but rather one for an enthusiast such as myself with a general or rudimentary knowledge of cars and car components. The following is the check point list, thus far. I'd greatly appreciate any comments, corrections or additional suggestions for the list. Many thanks. CAR INSPECTION GUIDE Car: Location: Owner/Car Yard Contact: Date: Check Items Info From Ad/Enquiries Over the Phone Build Date ? General condition/description of car Ask if car is encumbered/money owing ? All service/repair records and up-to-date stamped log books are preferred Original ‘Owner Manual’ available ? Car ownership history ? Has vehicle been crashed ? Registration, how much ? Reason for sale ? Pink slip or RWC available ? Existing faults or repairs required ? Exterior Check compliance plate, confirm build date Check registration sticker, confirm details Paint & panel, panel junctions, dings, scratches, crash evidence ? Doors and boot alignment, hanging well, good junctions ? Check under doors, inside guards Check windscreen and all glass seals and moulds All door handles working ? Check wheels & tyres generally (check tread wear, depth and alignment) Glass/mirrors Check all headlights, taillights, blinkers Check under car generally Exhaust Check door trims & seals, including boot seal Check generally for rust Check shocks, bounce test Interior Odometer working ? Gauges & dash Check all power windows, other switches Seats & trim Floor carpets Seat belts, quality, retraction Ash tray, centre console, stereo Light stalk and blinkers Steering wheel and wheel switches Head lining Check interior lights Check boot carpet Check for spare wheel & jack Boot and fuel flap release working ? Test air-con Check central locking Engine Check general condition of engine, does it appear well maintained ? Check engine bay sides, firewall and strut towers generally Check oil, dipstick and under fill cap (clean preferred, not milky or smoky after running) Check coolant, clear bottle ? (clean green preferred not milky, not red, check for evidence of trans fluid) Check transmission fluid (clean & red preferred, not milky, check for evidence of water) Check radiator hoses, clamps and spigots Check all belts Check block and head gasket(s), signs of blown gasket ? Any coolant residue ? Check for oil leaks, on engine, on pavement under ? Check power steering pump and hoses Check rocker cover seal(s), front timing case seal, welsh plugs Check air filter Check plug leads and belts Noises/rattles when running, under load and revving ? Test Drive Check odometer (must be working for accurate mileage/age) Transmission/gears, check for smooth/good changes, (auto change down 4, 3, 2, 1 whilst driving) Check auto trans kick down under acceleration Clutch wear/slip ? Check synchromesh Steering, pulls left or right ? Brakes, test under hard braking, test pedal height & pump pressure Any black/blue/white smoke from exhaust ? Check all lights & blinkers Door seals, wind noises ? Check temp gauge whilst running Noises/rattles when running ? Check air con, cold and hot Keys 2 sets of keys/fobs preferred Warranty Warranty details (if available/offered): REVS Check (Ph. 133 220) Money owing on car finance, car statutory write-off, status ? Sellers Details (must match rego papers) Name: Address: Drivers Lic. No: Obtain signed over registration papers Obtain an additional written/signed receipt Insurance (Ph. NRMA 132 132) Obtain cover note List complete.
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08-08-2010, 07:42 PM | #2 | ||
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Location: Brisbane
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Can't faul that list, I have a similar one myself:
Get VIN number – REVS check Any accident history? Minor? Front right guard replacement obvious How many previous owners has it had? Why are you selling? While under bonnet, check bolts on bonnet hinges. Damaged/rusted – may have been replaced MOTOR Start car Look at exhaust when starting for smoke Listen to motor for any clattering, etc Check no warning lights come on on the dash Check colour of oil on dipstick and inside oil filler cap – beware sludge! Check colour of water in radiator Check brake fluid level and colour – any leaks from Master Cylinder? Look for leaks: get torch and look under at the motor, transmission and diff Look for stains on ground where car is parked Test drive Accelerate Decelerate Get up to 80km or more if possible Watch for vibration, noises, hesitation on acceleration, misfires, missing, uneven revs Does car pull to left or right under brakes? Any warning lights coming on? Vibrations? TRANSMISSION Warm car up Check transmission fluid level and colour – use white tissue When engaging D from P, it should do so smoothly, no clunk Move between D and R and back again, should be no delay, clunk or slipping. When driving car, watch for ‘sticking’ in gear, delays in changing up or down, clunks or noises BRAKES Brakes good? Pedal movement not spongy or soft No pulling to the side under brakes No humming or vibrations under brakes Check hand brake SUSPENSION Check CV joints and boots Check chassis frame Check springs and rubbers Check no leaks from shockies WHEELS Signs of irregular wear? Check for bent rims Tyre depth and condition Spare tyre & jack present? CONTROLS Check A/C controls with engine running Do all the windows, mirrors, interior lights, aerial, central locking, radio, stereo etc work? BODY Check for rust • under front guard where it meets windscreen at the top of the outside edges of the fire wall (you can't really check the plenum in this area easily though), firewall and plenum. • around the sill vents on the rear pillar beside the rear glass • roof and door sills • main centre door post attachment to the sill • under carpets in boot • under wheel arches Are all body lines straight? Check gaps between body and panels, doors, bonnet and boot Look for overspray on sills etc Shazz
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08-08-2010, 08:15 PM | #3 | ||
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I got mine through state wide inspections.
You can see an example report here: http://www.vehicle-inspection.com.au...ple_report.pdf
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08-08-2010, 09:08 PM | #4 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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Great lost guyz and i think this should be sticky
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08-08-2010, 09:16 PM | #5 | |||
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Agreed Mickey. Just so everyone can have a copy of it.
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08-08-2010, 09:30 PM | #6 | ||
Where to next??
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Sydney
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I was going to start a similar thread after buying 3 cars this year.
Some to add to the list: Check that the advertised details match the free online rego verification service provided by the rta. Check that CD player / stacker works (take your own CD's!) Make sure ciggy lighter works (take your car phone charger). Lift door rubbers to see if paint matches. Do a few google searches. Try to see if the sellers name or phone number appears numerous times, especially when selling private. Perhaps there is some venting online from other not so happy customers? Look at bolts / screws on hanging panels. If they appear scuffed and scratched, or the washer shadow is visible could mean that panels have been removed for accident repairs. Do a little online research. Tabulate a list of common / known faults. See if factory stickers are still on the door jambs / radiator support / under bonnet. Does the service history dates flow / show some sort of regularity? Has the engine just been steam cleaned? Did you arrive to a pre warmed up car at the car inspection? Are you meeting the owner at a place other than their residence? Search for the plate on the 'dob in a hoon sites' Cheers, Jason |
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10-08-2010, 04:09 PM | #7 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Adelaide
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Here's one I see most these days.
1. See car for sale on Trading Post. 2. Ring up owner and tell them you will give them 1/2 their asking price in cash today. 3. Wonder why phone has gone dead. |
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11-08-2010, 09:42 AM | #8 | ||
Starter Motor
Join Date: Aug 2010
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Another one to add to the list - get a CarHistory report. They're only $30, and will tell you if the car's ever been a repairable written off, ever been stolen and heaps more. See the list of what's included - http://carhistory.com.au/products/. This way you don't have to rely on the seller telling you the truth! There's other used car reports out there, but this seems looks by far the most comprehensive. You can also check out a sample report - http://carhistory.com.au/pdf/sample_report.pdf.
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11-08-2010, 11:06 AM | #9 | ||
Steve
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Sth East Qld
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A couple of simple things I ask and do ...
Why are you selling ? ,once I am face to face with the seller , note reaction . Check the brake pedal for wear , if you go fast, you have to stop fast. I do not look at cars with the quote , must sell going overseas ,this chestnut is overdone. Ownly the second owner ,so what !!! , or only the second only ,the first owner was a elderly driver ,again ,so !!! I avoid these ads , it tells me nothing . Another one I avoid is ,maintained by my ( relative is a mechanic ...blah blah ),if he is not liscenced and signs the books I don't go there. Invariably , signed logbooks are what you pay for , anyone can wash a car and present it well , but maintenance is important . A well maintained high klm car is better than a poorly maintained low klm one.
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11-08-2010, 01:04 PM | #10 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Thanks for the tips and suggestions everyone..... I have updated the
check-list accordingly. For people that may be interested, I have made a "word version" file of the completed Guide, which is available to download HERE
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11-08-2010, 01:08 PM | #11 | ||
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Make sure they give you the SPARE key
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11-08-2010, 04:05 PM | #12 | |||
Where to next??
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Sydney
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I own 4 cars. 2 right now are on Ebay. I have had the 'why are you selling' question and the answer is that I have 2 cars in the double garage + the car of my bride to be plus the fact that I have moved around the corner from work and now walk. Valid answers, but I could have also said that even if it wasn't the case. Would you ask to see proof or the new rego papers of a person who says they 'just got a company car', or the pregnancy test results for a person who says their misses is expecting and the small car needs to go? Re the 'going overseas'. This can sometimes be a great opportunity to buy at a discount! (I got a car generally worth $4.5K for $3900 because the guy WAS leaving in a week and wanted cash ASAP) Does it really matter in the end? I have also sold a car prior to my 1 year backpacking trip, and mentioned in the add that anyone who wishes to view the tickets need only ask. Agree with the brake pedal inspection, as well as the fact that a high km car with service history is better than a low km car with none When buying any second hand car, go in there knowing that any owner will generally make their car look great to any prospective buyer. It's up to you to work out if the deal is worth it, and how soon the BS meter goes off at the inspection. |
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