Falcon protest at Ford HQ

[Smoke Pursuit]

I think Callum is behind this... You know the 2014 Support the new facebook page kid? That Ford actually bother talking to?

LOL

Anyways.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

I think Callum is behind this... You know the 2014 Support the new facebook page kid? That Ford actually bother talking to?

Callum to the rescue, the Falcon is saved!!

[08FGXR8]

I can appreciate the passion and enthusiasm but I can't see Ford doing anything. I've seen plenty of ads for the Territory but I'm just wondering if that's because the Territory name may live on.

I think instead of dwelling on this people should just enjoy the Falcon and appreciate the history that it's had. I think we were lucky that we got the FGX, yes it's not an all new model but I think it was better then just ending with the already 7 year old FG.

I've thought about this from Ford's perspective and I think they would be much more comfortable knowing they only have about 400-500 a month Falcon buyers to get into other models, take out the fleet sales which could be diverted into the Mondeo for example and then hopefully a few enthusiasts go for the Mustang.

On the other hand, Holden will lose about 3000 or so Commodore sales of which a significant amount are V8's, I can't see Commodore owners really embracing the the Opel Insignia for example.

Sorry for the long post, but like everyone here I am passionate about Falcons but I want to enjoy the time we've had with it and not dwell on something we can't change.

[XR Martin]

I think a protest has been going on for the last 10 years.
About the only thing left to do is celebrate whats left.

[Revolver]

So you bought a new Falcon in the past 2-3 years? If not you have no place to think of, let alone turn up to this too little, too late, pointless protest.

Same goes for anyone planning to turn up.

Oh, and uh, a description of:

This is going to go well. Not.

Does not help your cause. Especially posting that out loud, on a public forum. I don't think it also garners the support of this sites Administrators.

I do need everyone to understand that what we are doing here may not end nicely. We may be asked to leave and the Police may be called.

Yep get taken away in the back of a Toyota or Holden will show 'em!

[kypez]

Originally Posted by Revolver

So you bought a new Falcon in the past 2-3 years? If not you have no place to think of, let alone turn up to this too little, too late, pointless protest.

Same goes for anyone planning to turn up.

Oh, and uh, a description of:



Does not help your cause. Especially posting that out loud, on a public forum. I don't think it also garners the support of this sites Administrators.



Yep get taken away in the back of a Toyota or Holden will show 'em!

Revolver, think you jumped the gum mate.

The OP isnt organising the event. He/She was just posting it on the forum of something he/she came across.

[flooded one]

Originally Posted by Revolver

Yep get taken away in the back of a Toyota or Holden will show 'em!

be even funnier if it was a foreign made Ford replacing the Falcon/Territory!!

[LoudPipes]

I hope they post on YouTube so I can see and hear the type of people that believe this type of protest at this stage in Ford's restructure has merit.

[Focused]

Originally Posted by LoudPipes

I hope they post on YouTube so I can see and hear the type of people that believe this type of protest at this stage in Ford's restructure has merit.

Ever watch Fat Pizza? Me neither as I finished school, but I saw a few minutes of it and I imagine it would be similar...

[Elements]

Might have to organise a special trip to Broadmeadows on the 21st April. Not to be a part of this protest mob, but more to just see how proceedings go...

That's if it doesn't run out of puff beforehand...

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Elements

Might have to organise a special trip to Broadmeadows on the 21st April. Not to be a part of this protest mob, but more to just see how proceedings go...

That's if it doesn't run out of puff beforehand...

Watch from across the road.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by Elements

Might have to organise a special trip to Broadmeadows on the 21st April. Not to be a part of this protest mob, but more to just see how proceedings go...

Good move, we could sell tickets......................................






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[Joe5619]

Is the FGX even on sale yet??? If so, Ford marketing is nothing short of useless & they should be cut before FPR get's cut. I am being serious, is FGX on sale??

Also, I think is it very unrealistic to except private buyers to buy new cars every 2-3 years. I buy new cars, but only every 6-7 years. I currently have an FG (bought new) & would have replaced it with a new Falcon in a few years if one was around. I was planning on replacing it with Mustang, but now that Ford has cut V8 supercar sponsorship, I'll spend my money elsewhere. If Ford thinks V8 supercars don’t get sales for every single model in their line up, they are fools & will learn this the hard way.. Dropping V8's is the dumbest thing this current CEO has done.

[WPR1]

Originally Posted by Joe5619

Is the FGX even on sale yet??? If so, Ford marketing is nothing short of useless & they should be cut before FPR get's cut. I am being serious, is FGX on sale??

Also, I think is it very unrealistic to except private buyers to buy new cars every 2-3 years. I buy new cars, but only every 6-7 years. I currently have an FG (bought new) & would have replaced it with a new Falcon in a few years if one was around. I was planning on replacing it with Mustang, but now that Ford has cut V8 supercar sponsorship, I'll spend my money elsewhere. If Ford thinks V8 supercars don’t get sales for every single model in their line up, they are fools & will learn this the hard way.. Dropping V8's is the dumbest thing this current CEO has done.

Agree 100% Joe at the least Ford need to recommit to V8 Supercars I drive a GT because they are involved. V8 Supercars is the sport I follow if Ford are not involved I will have to look for a new car from the manufacturers that are.

[Focused]

Originally Posted by WPR1

Agree 100% Joe at the least Ford need to recommit to V8 Supercars I drive a GT because they are involved. V8 Supercars is the sport I follow if Ford are not involved I will have to look for a new car from the manufacturers that are.

And it's great that you've bought a GT (congrats, it's a beautiful car), but sadly you are in the vast minority. Ford now realise this and hopefully you guys will realise it in the near future.

The world has changes. Like it or not, it's change.

[Focused]

Originally Posted by Joe5619

Is the FGX even on sale yet??? If so, Ford marketing is nothing short of useless & they should be cut before FPR get's cut. I am being serious, is FGX on sale??

Also, I think is it very unrealistic to except private buyers to buy new cars every 2-3 years. I buy new cars, but only every 6-7 years. I currently have an FG (bought new) & would have replaced it with a new Falcon in a few years if one was around. I was planning on replacing it with Mustang, but now that Ford has cut V8 supercar sponsorship, I'll spend my money elsewhere. If Ford thinks V8 supercars don’t get sales for every single model in their line up, they are fools & will learn this the hard way.. Dropping V8's is the dumbest thing this current CEO has done.

Yeah because the current support of the V8s has helped Ford soooo much... And I might add that the announcement has only just been made so you can't argue that these sales were affected by the news.
http://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news...year-low-30635

Ford don't have Falcon TV ads for two reasons. Firstly, no one watches TV, and secondly, no one wants a Falcon. When will you guys realise this?

[Iggle Piggle]

Originally Posted by Focused

Ford don't have Falcon TV ads for two reasons. Firstly, no one watches TV, and secondly, no one wants a Falcon. When will you guys realise this?

Re your first point - it is unusual then that they advertise the rest of their range and their offers and their brand on TV - everything but Falcon.

You guys on here should be congratulated for having more faith in and passion for the Falcon product than Ford management.

[Joe5619]

Originally Posted by Focused

Yeah because the current support of the V8s has helped Ford soooo much... And I might add that the announcement has only just been made so you can't argue that these sales were affected by the news.
http://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news...year-low-30635

Ford don't have Falcon TV ads for two reasons. Firstly, no one watches TV, and secondly, no one wants a Falcon. When will you guys realise this?

No one watches TV????? Come on, give me a ****en break. How about news papers or radio? Is no-one listening & reading them too? There must be a lot of dumb companies spending advertising dollars on TV then!! I've seen more advertising for models that aren't even on sale for 12 months, then one you can buy now. I've seen more advertising for Fiesta, which sells worse than Falcon. Just like Ecoboost, if they weren’t going to put the right effect into, just bloody close the doors already.

And those sales figures would be worse without the support Ford has put into V8's over the last 10-15 years.

[Focused]

Originally Posted by Joe5619

No one watches TV????? Come on, give me a ****en break. How about news papers or radio? Is no-one listening & reading them too? There must be a lot of dumb companies spending advertising dollars on TV then!! I've seen more advertising for models that aren't even on sale for 12 months, then one you can buy now. I've seen more advertising for Fiesta, which sells worse than Falcon. Just like Ecoboost, if they weren’t going to put the right effect into, just bloody close the doors already.

And those sales figures would be worse without the support Ford has put into V8's over the last 10-15 years.

TV watching is dwindling and being replaced by the internet. People download (legally and illegally) movie and TV series and watch them in their own timeframe instead of having to wait for a certain start time and then end up watching ads every 10 minutes.

RE: Fiesta vs Falcon. They're about even. I looked through the old vfacts thread and the first one I could find with both figures had the Fiesta ahead with 508 and the Falcon 493 (July).

Just image how much better those 3 would be doing if they had been in V8's over the last 10 -15 years. There is a reason the likes of Nissan, Volvo & Holden (& others looking to enter) race motorsports. If you dont get this, we'll never agree.

Would they? We don't know that. Holden will probably pull out in a few years, as will Volvo. Mercedes are furious that Erebus are racing their cars so I wouldn't get too excited about the benefits of entering the V8s.
Lets agree to disagree.

[Joe5619]

Originally Posted by Focused

TV watching is dwindling and being replaced by the internet. People download (legally and illegally) movie and TV series and watch them in their own timeframe instead of having to wait for a certain start time and then end up watching ads every 10 minutes.

Go look at oztam viewer numbers.. TV viewers are still growing, despite the raise in internet & downloading!!

[danzvtil]

Originally Posted by Joe5619

I was planning on replacing it with Mustang, but now that Ford has cut V8 supercar sponsorship, I'll spend my money elsewhere. If Ford thinks V8 supercars don’t get sales for every single model in their line up, they are fools & will learn this the hard way.. Dropping V8's is the dumbest thing this current CEO has done.

So that V8 Supercar sponsorship money must be working wonders for Toyota, mazda and Hyundai.....oh, hang on......

This whole embarrassing saga reminds me of the facebook page after ford made the closure announcement "100k likes to save Ford Australia". Mensa must have been churning them out that day-how about 100k BUYERS of Falcon EVERY YEAR for EVER. There is NO going back.

[Joe5619]

Originally Posted by danzvtil

So that V8 Supercar sponsorship money must be working wonders for Toyota, mazda and Hyundai.....oh, hang on......

This whole embarrassing saga reminds me of the facebook page after ford made the closure announcement "100k likes to save Ford Australia". Mensa must have been churning them out that day-how about 100k BUYERS of Falcon EVERY YEAR for EVER. There is NO going back.

Just image how much better those 3 would be doing if they had been in V8's over the last 10 -15 years. There is a reason the likes of Nissan, Volvo & Holden (& others looking to enter) race motorsports. If you dont get this, we'll never agree.

The only question you have to ask yourself is why are you a "Ford" fan in the first place & does this lead you to buy new Fords or at the very least put Ford at the top of your list. If it has anything to do with motorsports then your argument is pointless. Answer the question honestly.

Ford will learn the hard way.

[danzvtil]

Originally Posted by Joe5619

Just image how much better those 3 would be doing if they had been in V8's over the last 10 -15 years. There is a reason the likes of Nissan, Volvo & Holden (& others looking to enter) race motorsports. If you dont get this, we'll never agree.

Originally Posted by Joe5619

You draw a very long bow, my friend, no one ever walked into a Hyundai dealer to buy an I30 but walked out when they realised Hyundai don't race a V8.
Nissan will increase their lot in life when they get on top of their boring product offer by having a compelling range, a V8 has nothing to do with that.

The only question you have to ask yourself is why are you a "Ford" fan in the first place & does this lead you to buy new Fords or at the very least put Ford at the top of your list. If it has anything to do with motorsports then your argument is pointless. Answer the question honestly.


I am a car fan, I like machinery that propels humans from one place to another. I don't have blind loyalty to one brand or another.
Objectively, any volume car seller in Australia needs to look at whether V8 racing adds anything to their brand, or the most important thing SALES, unanimously there are better returns on marketing dollars to be had elsewhere.

Ford will learn the hard way.

Ford AU is in transition as a car retailer, this will understandably make some current customers upset as they don't like change, the same fans who feel a part of their heritage is ending. This is understandable, Ford have quite a job in front of them to change perceptions.

[2011G6E]

When the parent company (no such thing as an Australian car company...it's GM and Ford USA when push comes to shove) sells more F series trucks in a couple of days than we sell Falcons in an entire year (an average of one every 40 seconds apparently), why do people still find it so hard to understand why the rug was pulled out from under it?
Couple that with Ford Australias mistake which many other car makers have done before...not seeing which way the market was heading and just keeping on plugging out cars that no one wants anymore...and it was inevitable.

It was a great car while it lasted...but times change.

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by 2011G6E

When the parent company (no such thing as an Australian car company...it's GM and Ford USA when push comes to shove) sells more F series trucks in a couple of days than we sell Falcons in an entire year (an average of one every 40 seconds apparently), why do people still find it so hard to understand why the rug was pulled out from under it?
Couple that with Ford Australias mistake which many other car makers have done before...not seeing which way the market was heading and just keeping on plugging out cars that no one wants anymore...and it was inevitable.

It was a great car while it lasted...but times change.

Thing is, Ford did see how the market was going and released the Territory. Amongst other factors, there is just so much choice today and too expensive to manufacture in Australia.

[b0son]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Thing is, Ford did see how the market was going and released the Territory.

That tired old chestnut .... they did nothing with the Terri for years, while their competitors came to the party, brought more tech, brought diesel, etc, and walked away with the market.

[BLUEYBA]

Originally Posted by 2011G6E

When the parent company (no such thing as an Australian car company...it's GM and Ford USA when push comes to shove) sells more F series trucks in a couple of days than we sell Falcons in an entire year (an average of one every 40 seconds apparently), why do people still find it so hard to understand why the rug was pulled out from under it?
Couple that with Ford Australias mistake which many other car makers have done before...not seeing which way the market was heading and just keeping on plugging out cars that no one wants anymore...and it was inevitable.

It was a great car while it lasted...but times change.

I saw the new Gensis that Hyundai has released and wondered why they are releasing a large car when everyone is saying that ford having been producing a car no one wants. Was it the car and size or was it that Ford never put in the effort or the money into building a car everyone would buy. I think Ford NA never gave the Falcon the opportunity to shine as I think it would have embarrassed them at what was being produced with little funding.
Anyway just a thought

[Kieron]

Originally Posted by BLUEYBA

I saw the new Gensis that Hyundai has released and wondered why they are releasing a large car when everyone is saying that ford having been producing a car no one wants. Was it the car and size or was it that Ford never put in the effort or the money into building a car everyone would buy. I think Ford NA never gave the Falcon the opportunity to shine as I think it would have embarrassed them at what was being produced with little funding.
Anyway just a thought

Genesis is a large, low volume high$$ luxury car aimed at Mercedes/BMW buyers whereas Falcon is a bread n butter, high volume family sedan.

On top of this, I'd say genesis production and world sales would overshadow Falcons in its halcyon years.

[uniacidz]

im sure Ford wont blink cos of a few rednecks protesting about a product that doesn't sell

[Fordman1]

This whole protest is the craziest thing I have heard of.

Crickey I must live on another planet to these guys !