Top Gear!

[MethodX]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

Was Ali G in da house? :

LOL at Peugeot.

Peugot make nice cars, and have a long history, but the one last night was riced to the max.

[majin_andrew]

Originally Posted by [ NZTS50 ]

I've never really been a fan of Top Gear. Jeremy is no specialist and neither is the program. "Top Gear, they know their cars!" BS! All they do is play funny little games, drive around a track trying to beat a fighter jet, crush a Hilux (with non factory roll bar) race each other on the beach, up country, against time, while this maybe fun to watch.....it offers little to no real input how the cars drive, just a typical pommy whinge and moan about "in his opinion", what he dislikes and what's crap.

Give the keys to a real driver - Tiff Needle (5th Gear). His racing background and expertise behind the wheel give viewers a real insight into what the car is like to drive, how it handles and bang for buck, that's a real car show. Jeremy dislikes and is arrogant to pretty much anything that's not made in Britain.

Rant off :

I agree here.
While I can see that Top Gear has better entertainment, comical value than 5th Gear, the latter is a better show in my opinion.
Jeremy gets on my nerves, not only because he is an idiot, but because a lot of people take his words as gospel.
Tiff gives better car reviews and can drive far better than anyone on Top Gear can.

I still enjoy watching TG, but 5th Gear is my choice.

[majin_andrew]

Even if Top Gear did drive a BF Typhoon, by the time it aired in Australia the Orion would be out already.

[Outbackjack]

Originally Posted by robs_ls1

Too easy.

VE GTS on the Great Ocean Road.

:monkes:

It might be a bit embarrasing when the windows fall out of it though!! :

[Kenster]

Originally Posted by majin_andrew

Even if Top Gear did drive a BF Typhoon, by the time it aired in Australia the Orion would be out already.

True Australia its like 3 or 4 season behinde. Personally i like seeing a more fun side of car shows then the tradiontional show, give out good laugh and great to watch.

Plus the challenge they put are great and harilours, its good to see what the car capiable of doing off a track and on normal roads and condition.

When they do come hope its going to be a challenge on top of a great show

[xy351]

on what cahnnel and what time is this 'top gear' show on??? sounds good!

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by xy351

on what cahnnel and what time is this 'top gear' show on??? sounds good!

Where have you been the past two years?

SBS, Monday Nights, 7.30-8.30

[Jayden]

you never know with them, jeremy may decide to just diss the **** out of the car / country as he loves to do. I love the show, very entertaining.

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Jayden

you never know with them, jeremy may decide to just diss the **** out of the car / country as he loves to do. I love the show, very entertaining.

Yep. I can see it now, comments about convicts, colonials, & Mutated creatures (Kangaroos, Koalas, Platypus', etc.). At least he won't find any rednecks Lol (not that I know of anyway !).

F6 Typhoon on the Great Ocean Road - no contest !

Most Australian muscle car and the greatest driving road in Australia. EOS.

[BlueRaven]

Great ocean road is pretty, but it isn't that great a 'drivers' road imo.

[sprjenkins]

yep, great ocean road is very pretty but it is about the most frustrating road in the world to drive down. I hate it. IF YOU WANT TO DRIVE AT TWENTY UNDER THE LIMIT, MOVE INTO THE BYPASS TO LET OTHER PEOPLE THROUGH. I've taken to over taking people in those little bypass that slower drivers are supposed to pull into because they'll be cruising along at 20 or 30 under the limit, sometimes slower and pass 3 or 4 of them.

[XA-Coupe]

Mid week is great for the GOR .. brings back memories

I'd love to see TG here, the best ford for him to drive IMO will be the typhoon, it's a standout.

[Night Runner]

I have to get behind a Typhoon. You guys love them to pieces!
Is a Typhoon a F6? Sorry for the quick hi-jack.

I can't stand Turbos but, I'll drive it (at least test) if it's Ford.

[COTTIES 69wgn]

heres a lil vid for ppl who dont know what the phase vI is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si1dSF0VN4s

[Tles]

Typhoon (silhoette), F6(ego), Fairmont Ghia(silk) and Territory Turbo Ghia(seduce) in convoy on a loop through Melbourne to Ballarat and then down to Port Fairy & Warrnambool, Port Campbell - Great Ocean Road to Torquay, Geelong & Queenscliff.
Ferry to Sorrento around Sandown and then upto the Yarra Valley and the High country to Bright, Falls Creek, Mount Buller, Millawa. These conditions suit the Fords perfectly and show off both the country and the cars to perfection. They offer the best scenery and driving roads around, even after the bushfires.

[Auslandau]

Well yes the phase IV is very well documented and I did know what you thinking. I cannot see them getting there hands on one of those though.



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[Auslandau]

Originally Posted by [ NZTS50 ]

I've never really been a fan of Top Gear. Jeremy is no specialist and neither is the program. "Top Gear, they know their cars!" BS! All they do is play funny little games, drive around a track trying to beat a fighter jet, crush a Hilux (with non factory roll bar) race each other on the beach, up country, against time, while this maybe fun to watch.....it offers little to no real input how the cars drive, just a typical pommy whinge and moan about "in his opinion", what he dislikes and what's crap.

Give the keys to a real driver - Tiff Needle (5th Gear). His racing background and expertise behind the wheel give viewers a real insight into what the car is like to drive, how it handles and bang for buck, that's a real car show. Jeremy dislikes and is arrogant to pretty much anything that's not made in Britain.

Rant off :

Oh boy! So to go on your logic.....if Tiff says its good then I must buy one because he has racing experience? So NO ONES opinion matters unless you have a racing background and expertise behind the wheel? Thats why Top Gear is way more fun than most other shows as it doesnt take itself too seriously, can take the crapper out of all sorts of cars, laugh at themselves and give a non tech, basic, funny..."Yep this car is more FUN to drive than the other one I just drove!" without all the purist **** factor BS.

Everyone is SO entitled to their likes and dislikes on TV and you are most welcome to it too. Just didnt understand your reasoning behind it. It is an entertaining show that even my MRS sits and watches! Dont care if Jeremy and the others has no racing,driving whatever experience...Take it for what it is... Its a chuckle



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[Night Runner]

Originally Posted by auslandau

Oh boy! So to go on your logic.....if Tiff says its good then I must buy one because he has racing experience? So NO ONES opinion matters unless you have a racing background and expertise behind the wheel? Thats why Top Gear is way more fun than most other shows as it doesnt take itself too seriously, can take the crapper out of all sorts of cars, laugh at themselves and give a non tech, basic, funny..."Yep this car is more FUN to drive than the other one I just drove!" without all the purist **** factor BS.

Everyone is SO entitled to their likes and dislikes on TV and you are most welcome to it too. Just didnt understand your reasoning behind it. It is an entertaining show that even my MRS sits and watches! Dont care if Jeremy and the others has no racing,driving whatever experience...Take it for what it is... Its a chuckle

My point was people believe Jeremy and his "reviews" like he is God. His comments on cars are that of a pre-schooler. "I don't like this or I don't like that" "The car handles bad" "The interior is like my living room, old".

How is that helpful? Those are opinions not drivers input my friend. There is a huge difference, it is good value for entertainment but a true motoring show it is not. Tiff is awesome and I would take his opinion very seriously and of course a racing background means something when reviewing a car, if not you or I could run a show, think about it mate. He has vast experience behind all kinds of cars, test driver and Le-Mans racer.

"****" Factor BS"? For some enthusiasts it's not a **** factor (shows your attitude) it's a car show, not a comedy fest. Tiff's background 100% helps him, instead of him calling the car, simply: "crap" he'll give a explanation into why he thinks this and what improvements could be made to mechnicals etc.

All I'm saying is there are "fun, hold hands family programs" and others that get to the point and give the viewer a no BS look at the cars, tech, driving & options.

I watch both but would never listen to what "King Jeremy" has to say in terms of cars.

;)

[blutura]

If you can't stand JC, then don't watch the show. Simple.

I can't understand why people feel this incessant need to come on here and tell everyone how much they hate everything. We don't care!

[Night Runner]

Originally Posted by blutura

If you can't stand JC, then don't watch the show. Simple.

I can't understand why people feel this incessant need to come on here and tell everyone how much they hate everything. We don't care!

Ahh, yeah, Good-O. ;) You must do, look how twisted your panties got. No need to get all uppity mate, I said I watched it, just didn't understand how so many of you guys take his word like the good book.


:togo:

[Jayden]

Its a just a car show, its up to individuals to choose what they agree with or dont agree with. as if anything on TV will ever be tailor made for one person.

Jeremy says all kinds of crap, but your missing the point that he is more comedian than reviewer. As if he himself truly believes everything he says.

[bathurst77]

Force 6, GT-P and HSV GTS around Mt panorama.
Elfins down great ocean road and Philip Island
Territory Turbo ghia Sydney to Perth.
Mitsu 380 pottering around the suburbs

[Brent]

For what its worth I'll back up one of the previous comments regarding the Great Ocean Road. It may have been a good driving road in years gone by, but not now. Its now dominated by a conga line of Toyota Camrys towing Jayco caravans at 30kph. Nobody gives a stuff and thus won't move over for faster cars. Its infuriating.

The only time you could give the Great Ocean Rd a go is at 2am one night, but the death knell was when they speed limited the whole damned thing to 80kph (down from 100kph). Nup, its a boring tourist road now. Better off doing one of the stretches in the Great Alpine Rd....or close off Mt Buller Rd like they do for the annual hillclimb :

As for Jeremy Clarkson & Top Gear, I understand some of the comments about him being arrogant, and the show being a bit flippant etc. Yes, it would also be good to have a bit more detailed analysis by a racing driver. However, as I'll never, ever, be able to throw an Aston Martin around a track like The Stig, then a pure race driver analysis is not really that relevent for me.

I like the way that Jeremy comments on the more subjective things, like how the car sounds, and its interior fitments, and the whole "feel" of the car. He's often favoured a slower car over a technically faster one, simply because to drive it, it has more feel and 'soul'. To me, that's just as relevent, if not more relevant, than how fast it goes around a corner up on 2 wheels against the stopwatch.

For me, Top Gear is a pretty good show, with a reasonable blend of entertainment and analysis. Keep it going!!!!!!

Brent.

[AUIIForte]

Originally Posted by [ NZTS50 ]

Ahh, yeah, Good-O. ;) You must do, look how twisted your panties got. No need to get all uppity mate, I said I watched it, just didn't understand how so many of you guys take his word like the good book.


:togo:

Mate, where did you hear that from? You think everybody that watches it takes his word like the 'good book'. Im not starting anything, im merely stating that your logic doesnt make sense. Unless you actually went around to the millions of people that watch Top Gear and asked each individual if they take everything seriously about the things Jeremy says, you dont have a case. :

[Night Runner]

Originally Posted by AUIIForte

Mate, where did you hear that from? You think everybody that watches it takes his word like the 'good book'. Im not starting anything, im merely stating that your logic doesnt make sense. Unless you actually went around to the millions of people that watch Top Gear and asked each individual if they take everything seriously about the things Jeremy says, you dont have a case. :

"Figure of speech" mate. ;) Example: "There were millions of us at the cricket last night"
And it really pays to read my friend, where did I say millions!?!?!? :togo:

I said (and I quote) - "I watched it, just didn't understand how so many of you guys take his word like the good book." Obviously meaning the guys on the forum from the post and in general life.

Back To Topic I say..............

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by XA-Coupe

Mid week is great for the GOR .. brings back memories

I'd love to see TG here, the best ford for him to drive IMO will be the typhoon, it's a standout.

Yep - frustrating when you're caught up in traffic, but when you're on your own and able to push through those 'Twisties' it great.

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by [ NZTS50 ]

I've never really been a fan of Top Gear. Jeremy is no specialist and neither is the program. "Top Gear, they know their cars!" BS! All they do is play funny little games, drive around a track trying to beat a fighter jet, crush a Hilux (with non factory roll bar) race each other on the beach, up country, against time, while this maybe fun to watch.....it offers little to no real input how the cars drive, just a typical pommy whinge and moan about "in his opinion", what he dislikes and what's crap.

Give the keys to a real driver - Tiff Needle (5th Gear). His racing background and expertise behind the wheel give viewers a real insight into what the car is like to drive, how it handles and bang for buck, that's a real car show. Jeremy dislikes and is arrogant to pretty much anything that's not made in Britain.

Rant off :

You'd be insane if you based your purchasing decisions on the recommendations of Top Gear. Their popularity is enormous because of the humor and dry wit, it's an entertainment show based on cars, pure and simple. Some people either don't like the humor or don't get the humor, that's the thing about comedy, you're never going to make everyone laugh.

I've tried watching 5th Gear a number of times and I really wanted to like it, but I just fell asleep, it was so bland. Same with the crop of shows that have popped up on Ch10 from time to time.

Jeremy loves Ferrari's and just bought a Lambo and got rid of his GT40 (which was plagued with problems but he still loves). They're Jaguar sympathisers to the extreme but they'll call a spade a spade most of the time.

[Night Runner]

Yeah true, I'm over that discussion....each his own yadda yadda yadda. I would never buy a car based on someones review - ever.

He also had a Mercedes of some type didn't he? The fastest automatic car in the world (well, at the time).

[Tony xa]

They could come and sit in my passenger seat of My Xa coupe and I could show them about a 393 stroker with a 5 spd and 4.11 diff can do on a empty rd or track I may even be tempted to hit the Nos button for them as well if the ask nicely .Even without driving it its always good just for eye candy

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Brent

For what its worth I'll back up one of the previous comments regarding the Great Ocean Road. It may have been a good driving road in years gone by, but not now. Its now dominated by a conga line of Toyota Camrys towing Jayco caravans at 30kph. Nobody gives a stuff and thus won't move over for faster cars. Its infuriating.

The only time you could give the Great Ocean Rd a go is at 2am one night, but the death knell was when they speed limited the whole damned thing to 80kph (down from 100kph). Nup, its a boring tourist road now. Better off doing one of the stretches in the Great Alpine Rd....or close off Mt Buller Rd like they do for the annual hillclimb :

As for Jeremy Clarkson & Top Gear, I understand some of the comments about him being arrogant, and the show being a bit flippant etc. Yes, it would also be good to have a bit more detailed analysis by a racing driver. However, as I'll never, ever, be able to throw an Aston Martin around a track like The Stig, then a pure race driver analysis is not really that relevent for me.

I like the way that Jeremy comments on the more subjective things, like how the car sounds, and its interior fitments, and the whole "feel" of the car. He's often favoured a slower car over a technically faster one, simply because to drive it, it has more feel and 'soul'. To me, that's just as relevent, if not more relevant, than how fast it goes around a corner up on 2 wheels against the stopwatch.

For me, Top Gear is a pretty good show, with a reasonable blend of entertainment and analysis. Keep it going!!!!!!

Brent.

Good summary on both the GOR & Jeremy Clarkson Brent !

I guess I'm biased towards the GOR because I'm from that next of the woods.