Older drivers among hoons

[Cruise]

Originally Posted by MeLLy

Yeh another BA xr6 went thru another petrol bowser in brisbane! it was on the news last night...
Also here in adelaide one of our major main roads are lined with houses, should we all not drive on it for fear of waking someone up? you live there you expect it simple! but i always turn my music down when im in a small residental street..
And if every state is run by labour then we all might aswell give up voting for any of them. I would like each person in each state to be able to vote on the laws they bring out, that way we have more of a voice rather than choosing which one of them 2 is worse and who to keep out of leadership....I for one would prefer to have a chance to decline some of the stupid laws they are bringing out...and the more ppl just dont sit with it and let everything slide the more forcefull they will get...they are trying to silence us...the more practical way to go about it would be to protest etc rather than do what the commy drivers are doing and go on tv and say stupid crap and try to act hardcore and be some sort of rebels who dont respect the law...
The cops may abuse their power and be class 1 A**H**** but they are doing what they are told.
It sucks.

You choose the laws you want by who you vote into government, you vote for them to act on your behalf. if we had a referendum on every bloody law that came in nothing would get done, all we would do is go to damn voting boths all your life and cost millions to do about two tenths of FA.

[sexr6tasy]

Originally Posted by Cruise Control

You choose the laws you want by who you vote into government, you vote for them to act on your behalf. if we had a referendum on every bloody law that came in nothing would get done, all we would do is go to damn voting boths all your life and cost millions to do about two tenths of FA.

I believe she means just the most contraversal laws not every single law ever introduced from now on. As for who you vote for does it really matter there both crap only difference is choosing which ones gonna lie and screw you over the least in the next 4 years.

[Cruise]

Originally Posted by sexr6tasy

As for who you vote for does it really matter there both crap only difference is choosing which ones gonna lie and screw you over the least in the next 4 years.

well ya hit the nail on the head there :

[flappist]

You people really miss the point with this voting thing. You are all such short term "gotta be now" impatient buggers.
If you want them to do what they are told it is simple.

MAKE IT PERSONAL.

Forget the crap about Labor/Liberal/OneNation/Green and attack the incumbent.

They are all in it for personal glory and if they only last one term they get NOTHING.

So if you have a Labor incumbent, vote Liberal. If you have a Liberal incumbent, vote Labor.
This scares the hell out of them because even if they are a senior long time member of the party if they PERSONALLY are not in power they are NOTHING.

Of course the problem with this is that there are too many "I will die before I vote against the TRUE LEADERS" on here are everywhere else and they all have a zillion reasons why despite laws destroying their lives and freedoms they will not change.

Even if you vote against your beliefs you can vote them back in next time and then maybe they might listen.

If you are whinging about being screwed by your state or federal Government and you voted FOR them then either do something about it or just shut the f%&^ up because YOU ARE THE PROBLEM........

[irlewy86]

I was once cruising with a mate in a 60k zone when he dumped the old auto into 1st gear then back into drive. The police confiscated it for 48 hours (we all had a good laugh). Upon getting it back he left the impound lot beeping his horn ($40 fine for excessive use) and that night he raced a commo and had it confiscated for 3 months. Magistrate tore him up over it. Quite funny though.

If your a P plater and don't want to be hasseled by the cops here are my tried and proven tips

1. By a shitbox that your Grandma might like i.e Sigma, Camry, Laser.
2. Don't put mags on it (it will keep the cost of insurance low)
3. Don't put a sports exhaust on it (chances are its a shitbox anyway so don't draw attention to the fact)
4. Don't put stickers all over it

Its called camoflauge and by disguising yourself as a none car lover and making it appear like youd rather mow the lawns than drive your rust bucket, cops wont feel the need to make your early years so miserable. If your smart you'll use the time to insure your thats worth $2.50 so when you buy that nice V8 or turbo it wont cost you an arm and a leg to insure it.

[[Tonko]]

Originally Posted by irlewy86

I was once cruising with a mate in a 60k zone when he dumped the old auto into 1st gear then back into drive. The police confiscated it for 48 hours (we all had a good laugh). Upon getting it back he left the impound lot beeping his horn ($40 fine for excessive use) and that night he raced a commo and had it confiscated for 3 months. Magistrate tore him up over it. Quite funny though.

If your a P plater and don't want to be hasseled by the cops here are my tried and proven tips

1. By a shitbox that your Grandma might like i.e Sigma, Camry, Laser.
2. Don't put mags on it (it will keep the cost of insurance low)
3. Don't put a sports exhaust on it (chances are its a shitbox anyway so don't draw attention to the fact)
4. Don't put stickers all over it

Its called camoflauge and by disguising yourself as a none car lover and making it appear like youd rather mow the lawns than drive your rust bucket, cops wont feel the need to make your early years so miserable. If your smart you'll use the time to insure your thats worth $2.50 so when you buy that nice V8 or turbo it wont cost you an arm and a leg to insure it.

Hmm, or we could just drive properly? Or at least do silly stuff where we wont get caught...
You can have a nice ride and not get hasseled, its all about attitude mate,
For example: Your mate decided to be a smart *** and hit the horn on the way out of the impound... That is pure arrogance, and if i were a copper, i'd have done the same.

[red_hotxr6]

For goodness sake, OBEY the rules/laws and you will not get hassled by the cops. Real simple.. :

[sexr6tasy]

As has been pointed out its real simple bullshit laws brought in by bullshit governments abused but shitty cops i think that about sums up this thread NEXT.

[[Tonko]]

Originally Posted by sexr6tasy

As has been pointed out its real simple bullshit laws brought in by bullshit governments abused but shitty cops i think that about sums up this thread NEXT.

What the hell does that mean in english?
A bit of punctuation goes a long way

[sexr6tasy]

Originally Posted by TonkoXR8

What the hell does that mean in english?
A bit of punctuation goes a long way

Really you cant work out but was meant to be by? abit of imagination goes a long way to

[TZENU]

Originally Posted by red_hotxr6

For goodness sake, OBEY the rules/laws and you will not get hassled by the cops. Real simple.. :

Enough said.. Plain and oh so Simple

[MeLLy]

Originally Posted by sexr6tasy

As has been pointed out its real simple bullshit laws brought in by bullshit governments abused but shitty cops i think that about sums up this thread NEXT.

Well the english version of this is what you wanted i believe tonkoxr8

As has been pointed out its real simple.Bullshit laws brought in by bullshit governments & abused by shitty cops,I think that about sums up this thread NEXT...
plain enough for you? like your mind couldnt just realise there was one typo...

[V3RSAC3]

Originally Posted by irlewy86

If your a P plater and don't want to be hasseled by the cops here are my tried and proven tips

1. By a shitbox that your Grandma might like i.e Sigma, Camry, Laser.
2. Don't put mags on it (it will keep the cost of insurance low)
3. Don't put a sports exhaust on it (chances are its a shitbox anyway so don't draw attention to the fact)
4. Don't put stickers all over it

hahaha anybody that would have of seen my car would know that its as stock as a rock, and i still get picked on hahaa ... i own a 'Nonno's / Grandad's' car ... and get bullied for it hahaha ... but its a good idea, that i agree with, to save your money for something bigger and better later, however that is for another thread lolz ...

[Eb Barbie]

Originally Posted by red_hotxr6

For goodness sake, OBEY the rules/laws and you will not get hassled by the cops. Real simple.. :

Agree totally, but hotted up cars and/or P plates do get the attention of the eyes of cops. But if your not doing anything wrong then ya cant get in Sh@t

[irlewy86]

Originally Posted by TonkoXR8

Hmm, or we could just drive properly? Or at least do silly stuff where we wont get caught...
You can have a nice ride and not get hasseled, its all about attitude mate,
For example: Your mate decided to be a smart *** and hit the horn on the way out of the impound... That is pure arrogance, and if i were a copper, i'd have done the same.

Yes but lets compare the punishments.

Driver drinks 10 beers, jumps in thier car and blows under the high legal limit.
Result: a 3 month suspension and a $500 fine, but they still keep their vehicle and license until the court date.

Hoon drops it back a gear to make some noise
Result: Instant 48 hour confiscation (automatic $240 fine) court apperance with possible suspension and further fines.

If you do the crime you do the time. I don't argue that for one second. My gripe with the anti hooning laws is that the punishment is somewhat excessive in comparison to other illegal acts and some more dangerous (such as speeding, unroadworthy vehicle, tailgating, lane weaving, using a mobile while driving). In my opinion the laws regarding hooning should be expanded to all serious driving offences, not just excessive noise.

[gozza]

I don't understand how people can have their cars impounded for dropping back a gear...Or somthing minimal like that. I ripped a skid on a mainroad and had a Police Officer on bike ride through it... I admitted to being a fool and he gave me a standard exessive noise/smoke Fine - Hoon Laws were in place at the time

As for the point of the thread Anyone has the potential to speed - break the law - drop skids....Its the idiots who get caught...Which is probly why you see more Young People getting booked as they don't pick a time and place

[MeLLy]

Originally Posted by irlewy86

Yes but lets compare the punishments.

Driver drinks 10 beers, jumps in thier car and blows under the high legal limit.
Result: a 3 month suspension and a $500 fine, but they still keep their vehicle and license until the court date.

Hoon drops it back a gear to make some noise
Result: Instant 48 hour confiscation (automatic $240 fine) court apperance with possible suspension and further fines.

If you do the crime you do the time. I don't argue that for one second. My gripe with the anti hooning laws is that the punishment is somewhat excessive in comparison to other illegal acts and some more dangerous (such as speeding, unroadworthy vehicle, tailgating, lane weaving, using a mobile while driving). In my opinion the laws regarding hooning should be expanded to all serious driving offences, not just excessive noise.

Exactly the punnishment doesnt fit the crime...theres more important things they need to be doing here in SA!But traffic infringements are their main and first priority...Sure its a priority but so is the high crime rate we have.
You see more ppl in the news getting off serious crimes than you do traffic infringements!

[XR8Master]

I was out cruizing the other night (doing nothing wrong) and a cop car followed me down the esplanade for a few minutes before deciding to pull me over

long story short, 2 cop cars surrounded me while 3 cops went over my entire car with a fine tooth comb

ended up with 2 tickets and a defect notice

1. driving defected car
2.Label not attached in accordance with regulation

defect:
Crack in windscreen
Secure Battery properly
Pod filter
Clean engine bay and powersteering pump

28 days to comply

now tell me this isnt targeting P platers ?

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by XR8Master

I was out cruizing the other night (doing nothing wrong) and a cop car followed me down the esplanade for a few minutes before deciding to pull me over

long story short, 2 cop cars surrounded me while 3 cops went over my entire car with a fine tooth comb

ended up with 2 tickets and a defect notice

1. driving defected car
2.Label not attached in accordance with regulation

defect:
Crack in windscreen
Secure Battery properly
Pod filter
Clean engine bay and powersteering pump

28 days to comply

now tell me this isnt targeting P platers ?

Was your car roadworthy?

[HOON69]

Im revving my mighty 1.8Litres of fury cause she's abit cold,and i could lose my car for that : now i heard em all :

the laws for hooning should involve direct racing o time trialing and not because you enjoy abit of music or you rev your car :P

stupidity at its worst and i bet 1/3rd of the offences aint even racing related

[HOON69]

Originally Posted by XR8Master

I was out cruizing the other night (doing nothing wrong) and a cop car followed me down the esplanade for a few minutes before deciding to pull me over

long story short, 2 cop cars surrounded me while 3 cops went over my entire car with a fine tooth comb

ended up with 2 tickets and a defect notice

1. driving defected car
2.Label not attached in accordance with regulation

defect:
Crack in windscreen
Secure Battery properly
Pod filter
Clean engine bay and powersteering pump

28 days to comply

now tell me this isnt targeting P platers ?

you think thats bad,i got pulled over yesterday,guess where?
im my own yard near my back verandah,yep yu heard right,no lights no siren no nothing,they thought they'd fly up my driveway because they thought i was going abit quick through a intersection 1.8litres of 1980 muscle fellas :
no speed detection or nothing,so they give me a RBT on my verandah,do a licence check and leave : one of the weirdest things i've experienced thus far.

[FPV8U]

Originally Posted by 4Vman

Was your car roadworthy?

In his case no, in my friends yes.

A mate of mine driving his Ford Laser TX3, pretty stock besides an exhaust...

Incident 1 - Driving down main steer on a tuesday night, sees a TOG car pull a u-turn and on go the lights, he pull over into a parking bay, keeping his car and headlights on.

Officer walks up "Why wern't your headlights on?" without going into too much depth the officer was writing a ticket for no headlights although they were on luckily for this friend of mine his mum works at the local police station, he dropped her name, the officer backed down.

Incident 2 - Same friend driving along gets pulled up, cop says you have a BOV (He didn't.) cop couldn't find it, calls in other units, they couldn't find it call in more units he ended up with 5-6 officers looking for something that wasn't there, and was help up for over an hour after doing close at work for doing nothing wrong.

They were going to call in a unit that could measure how loud his exhaust was but once again, my friend dropped his mums name and they lleft him alone.


I understand they have to do their job, but waiting over an hour with 6 officers around your car is just rubbish.

[XR8Master]

Originally Posted by 4Vman

Was your car roadworthy?

and if It wern't the battery held tight enough or the pod filter it would be the bird poo on the roof or the brake dust on my rotors

[GTWHOA]

I feel for you guys down there in the V I C. It will be hell if the dial-a-hoon kicks in.

We have stickers on our work vehicles with a 1800 number, whenever I overtake someone I get paranoid. Another young bloke at work got dobbed in for doing 120 on the freeway. Regional manager checked the GPS report and yeah turns out he was doing 126kmh. Almost lost his job.

But seriously how is some member of the public going to prove you were hooning?

[XR8Master]

well all the evil hoons will be proved guilty after they have been sent to concentration camps and exterminated

[savagE]

Its what we deserve mate, we P-ers are being discriminated against, P plate Australia policy again. *play on White Australia Policy*

[red_hotxr6]

Originally Posted by XR8Master

I was out cruizing the other night (doing nothing wrong) and a cop car followed me down the esplanade for a few minutes before deciding to pull me over

long story short, 2 cop cars surrounded me while 3 cops went over my entire car with a fine tooth comb

ended up with 2 tickets and a defect notice

1. driving defected car
2.Label not attached in accordance with regulation

defect:
Crack in windscreen
Secure Battery properly
Pod filter
Clean engine bay and powersteering pump

28 days to comply

now tell me this isnt targeting P platers ?

Maybe now is the time to thank all those other idiot p-platers for that. Because once upon a time p-platers were just "learner" drivers and were left alone, now for some reason a lot of p-platers try to either emulate there "v8 counterparts" or their friends with there modified 4-6 or 8 cylinder cars.Or/and they get into their cars with their friends who then proceed to "egg" them on, only to have a fairly bad accident later on. I personally think that all learner drivers/riders should be on a low powered vehicle and motorcycle for at least 1 year before they are allowed to drive an high powered vehicle of any sort. Its not 100% proof but there is a good chance a lot of family and friends will be saying gidday to them the next day.

[Falcon Coupe]

Originally Posted by XR8Master

I was out cruizing the other night (doing nothing wrong) and a cop car followed me down the esplanade for a few minutes before deciding to pull me over

long story short, 2 cop cars surrounded me while 3 cops went over my entire car with a fine tooth comb

ended up with 2 tickets and a defect notice

1. driving defected car
2.Label not attached in accordance with regulation

defect:
Crack in windscreen
Secure Battery properly
Pod filter
Clean engine bay and powersteering pump

28 days to comply

now tell me this isnt targeting P platers ?

That's pretty harsh.
It sounds like they were targeting someone they have a history with.

[sexr6tasy]

Usually im the first to jump to the defense of p-platers and there bad treatment because of a few idiotic drivers and over zealous police. However in this case it looks like he was defecting you for small more then likely because hes got his pms whether you were a p-plater or a full licensed driver by the looks of it in this case was just coincidence.

[FPV8U]

Originally Posted by red_hotxr6

Maybe now is the time to thank all those other idiot p-platers for that. Because once upon a time p-platers were just "learner" drivers and were left alone, now for some reason a lot of p-platers try to either emulate there "v8 counterparts" or their friends with there modified 4-6 or 8 cylinder cars.Or/and they get into their cars with their friends who then proceed to "egg" them on, only to have a fairly bad accident later on. I personally think that all learner drivers/riders should be on a low powered vehicle and motorcycle for at least 1 year before they are allowed to drive an high powered vehicle of any sort. Its not 100% proof but there is a good chance a lot of family and friends will be saying gidday to them the next day.

Studys have shown that it would not make the slightest of difference, and that the restractions are just a useless bandaid for the state govenements who don't actually want to do anything but make it look like they are trying.