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Old 27-10-2006, 12:01 PM   #241
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Old 28-10-2006, 01:37 AM   #242
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The "Force 8" and its reasons are made clear in our todays local paper.

Not a performance model we were hoping for but supposedly an up market model to get the cashed up baby bormers back into a Ford.

FPV spokesmans quote " lots of baby boomers still love to drive a fast car but don't feel the striped and big wings sit well in the corporate car park. Not at their age anyway. Many have been buying performance cars and stripping off the fruit. The Force is in response to that"

The red leather seats look nice. $71,990 and its yours.

Force 8 is quoted as the same 290kw and full details will be tomorrows motoring section of the paper.
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Old 28-10-2006, 01:47 AM   #243
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I would have loved to seen that as the Force and not a GT/F6 with luxury interior.
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Old 28-10-2006, 02:05 AM   #244
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I definately have to get the Force 6/8 body kit for my plain jane BA

money, money, money...
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Old 28-10-2006, 05:50 AM   #245
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These would have to be the most underwelming cars Ford has heaped together from their parts bin. Sure, they look nice and have all the goods, but the GT-P was already that car.

I don't understand why they make the same car, with higher price tag, and less visual presence. They would have been better off offering the GT and F6 with rear wing delete option, and interiror upgrade option, and putting those lovely chrome mirrors from the Fairlane on the GTP anyway for BFII.

Why oh why would anyone choose one of these when there is an HSV Senator with Magna ride, Bose (gimmick I know!) and 307kw 6.0 V8 with REAL performance on offer! You'd have to have rocks in your head. These Forces would be nice as a competitor for the Calais V and SS V - which means a similar price tag, not a $70K one! :
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Old 28-10-2006, 12:37 PM   #246
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Wheels magazine has a small drive of the Force 6. They are hoping to sell 250 of them split 50/50 between 6 and 8. Its just an easy to make new model that costs as little development dollars as possible, while adding incremental sales to get them through to Orion. Better to spend money on that than an updated model that will be superseded in 18 months.
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Old 28-10-2006, 03:14 PM   #247
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Damn that looks nice well done
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Old 28-10-2006, 03:19 PM   #248
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Just got this one out of the oven :

how hard would it have been for ford to do that. looks much better and more original
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Old 28-10-2006, 03:44 PM   #249
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how hard would it have been for ford to do that. looks much better and more original
Maybe AWC could make this bar available. Would be a popular choice i think.
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Old 28-10-2006, 03:47 PM   #250
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Must just be me i prefer it with the XR/GT lights...


What wheels are they CSV_LS1?
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Old 28-10-2006, 03:50 PM   #251
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Just got this one out of the oven :

the subtle change of the front end, is 100% over the xr light setp-up etc, good choppin!
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Old 28-10-2006, 04:04 PM   #252
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What wheels are they CSV_LS1?
Not sure what brand it is. I found it in my archive of wheels i have.
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Old 29-10-2006, 02:29 PM   #253
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FORCE 6 and FORCE 8 are a complete flop based on price.

Those Force cars are over 70 k, no ones going to pay that for a GT with extra chrome and a smaller wing.
FPV have over 70 orders so far...that's 70 more than "no one".

Good luck to them, most of them had probably considered an HSV Senator instead, at least now they are FPV sales, not HSV.
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Old 29-10-2006, 08:52 PM   #254
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go fpv...and with 18 months to go they may sell a few
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Old 29-10-2006, 09:14 PM   #255
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nice looking taxi...
sorry... nothing special.
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Old 30-10-2006, 01:02 AM   #256
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FPV have over 70 orders so far...that's 70 more than "no one".

Good luck to them, most of them had probably considered an HSV Senator instead, at least now they are FPV sales, not HSV.
How did you find that out Henry 351? Thats great news
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Old 30-10-2006, 09:52 AM   #257
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How did you find that out Henry 351? Thats great news
The 4 year lease is up on my BA GT early next year, so I went to an FPV dealer for some info on a Force 8 as a possible successor. When were talking about delivery time etc., he mentioned in passing that there were already 70+ orders on FPV's books.

I reckon it's great news for FPV. A lot of blokes here seem to be canning the concept because its not what they want.What they are overlooking is the fact FPV are giving punters more choice about the appearance of what has been to date a very "spoilers and all" product.

What FPV have now are "boxing glove" and "velvet glove" appearance packages. Most FPV employees are hard core Ford fans dealing with limited resources thanks to narrow minded beancounters who have forgotten the old adage of "you have to spend money to make money".

To add 2 new models to the FPV lineup at this point in time late in the BA/BF lifecycle can only broaden FPV's appeal with the upcoming Orion Falcon. Like the Force 6 & 8 packages, sometimes subtlety is the best approach.
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Old 30-10-2006, 10:03 AM   #258
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im with henry...it doesnt hurt to have another 2 new models to pick between, no matter how little the changes are....one could argue there is no point in a gtp but they were still bought. if fpv just made hoon cars for teenagers who cant afford them ( just to have them argue at school about) would be a wasted opertunity and would never remain the threat it is in the high performace segmant. anyone who thinks the force cars are over priced are not thinking right....of course the luxuary versions are going to cost more.
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Old 30-10-2006, 12:15 PM   #259
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rear shot of force 6 is nuts!
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Old 31-10-2006, 05:17 PM   #260
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Looks nice. Just a bit "boring" looking, for a FPV. IMO
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Old 01-11-2006, 07:02 AM   #261
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Yeh I like CSV_lS1's chop.

Thats more of what I had in mind with the Force.
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Old 01-11-2006, 11:18 AM   #262
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Yep the more models in a line up, the better. 70 orders is proof that these models were missing from the lineup. FPV is only 4 years old, itll take time for them to go full-on with what they do, be patient people.
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Old 01-11-2006, 12:43 PM   #263
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While I do like the Force 6 and Force 8, I do think FPV should have based it on the Fairlane to make it different from the GT/GTP and Typhoon models.
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While I do like the Force 6 and Force 8, I do think FPV should have based it on the Fairlane to make it different from the GT/GTP and Typhoon models.
The fairlane is too big and long to be considered a "performance" vehicle.



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Old 01-11-2006, 01:29 PM   #265
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The fairlane is too big and long to be considered a "performance" vehicle.
Is it an all out performance vehicle or is it a luxury car with performance car intentions?

HSV were able to do it with the Grange.
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Old 01-11-2006, 01:31 PM   #266
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Looks like being another "exclusive" Ford. The names remind me of the Leyland Force 7V (P76 2door), another "exclusive" car.
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Old 01-11-2006, 01:52 PM   #267
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What was interesting to see was the average age of the punters at the BAII release nights, its getting up their, or is that just me? younger folk up north in the mines and all but I'd say most are over 45.......

The Force range may be an option here, for the more sedate croud, not my cup of tea, I want the lare boy racer style anyday please.

If I wanted a BMW or Merc (and yes I have owned one) or Audi etc etc I'd buy one and drive round in comfort, get treated like a snob etc but I'd rather have something well better....

Its all personal preference but I still think limited market and where was the market research any ways? people asking for a turbo Fairmont at dealers....and their you have the force6

I also reckon that anyone who orders one with the red interior will see about $5000-$10000 less at trade in time too (same as the merc-glad mine wasnt red hey!)


How many FPV dealers 70? mabey one for each, lol.
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Old 01-11-2006, 02:23 PM   #268
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HSV were able to do it with the Grange.
307kw in a LWB vehicle is very cool. will they be exported like the statesman and caprice. as i said before, the only reason why the stato and cappy are still around is because of the overseas want for them..
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Old 01-11-2006, 05:22 PM   #269
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What a Joke!!!!!

If FPV had released the price earlier we wouldn't have ordered one for our dealership. As most of the FPV / FORDS they have the same cheap plastic body kit, and poor build quality.

71,990 is just under the 300C SRT8 which is a much supperior car to ANY FPV. The SRT Jeep at over 2 tonnes is faster and corners just as well as the GT.

The best looking BF2 car is the Fairmont Ghia, they look tougher than the XR if I ever bought a new Ford i would get one of them.
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What a Joke!!!!!

If FPV had released the price earlier we wouldn't have ordered one for our dealership. As most of the FPV / FORDS they have the same cheap plastic body kit, and poor build quality.

71,990 is just under the 300C SRT8 which is a much supperior car to ANY FPV. The SRT Jeep at over 2 tonnes is faster and corners just as well as the GT.

The best looking BF2 car is the Fairmont Ghia, they look tougher than the XR if I ever bought a new Ford i would get one of them.
your telling crap you didnt order no force car not knowing the power or price and the srt is an over weight peice of crap that some pimp wannabe would drive....and the ghia bf2 does not look better then any of the fpv ranges. the reason ford and fpv have not upt the power with their cars is because most people dont upgrade their cars for atleast 5 years time....orion will be 5 years after ba and that will see an improvement in power, weight etc. fpv have not increase power for 4 years so orion will be a welcome change but fpv keeping the power the same has added for great re-sale and id bet an 03 fpv would fetch more money the an 03 hsv which are constaly upping the power
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