FPV leading HSV swb sales

[Archilino]

A little snippet from an article off the wheels website promoting the All Ford day in Sydney comming up soon:


"Of course FPV is on a roll at present, having moved ahead of HSV in short-wheelbase sedan sales. Year to date (to end of April), FPV has sold 425 Falcon-based sedans to HSV’s 412 Commodore sedan models."

Good effort considering the currrent climate, anyone have an idea on the total including utes etc?

[Falc'man]

Good news. I hope they keep it up.

[ZA-289]

That is good news, although the FPV design is like 3 years newer.

[flappist]

That is most interesting. It could possibly explain the extreme discounting that seems to abound in the lion tents.

[andrich]

Thats a great effort for FPV. I find it strange though because i alot more current HSV's then FPV's, especially compared to FG's

[Falc'man]

Originally Posted by andrich

Thats a great effort for FPV. I find it strange though because i alot more current HSV's then FPV's, especially compared to FG's

That's a good point. Ford did say a higher percentage of the sales are creeping towards the upper range whereas Holden Commodore's numbers are due to - as Flappist suggested - heavy discounts/fleets.

[Windsor220]

Originally Posted by andrich

Thats a great effort for FPV. I find it strange though because i alot more current HSV's then FPV's, especially compared to FG's

Probably due to the fact that the current HSVs have been out for 3 years....

[xr6turboford]

Originally Posted by ZA-289

That is good news, although the FPV design is like 3 years newer.

Just curious why people have to find a negative every time someone post a positive about FORD?

[R-Design]

Not much information there, overall it must be a win to HSV or they wouldn't have phrased it like that.

Things will only get better when Coyote is launched next year.

http://www.wheelsmag.com.au/News/The...late=domWheels

[Need_a_V8]

Originally Posted by xr6turboford

Just curious why people have to find a negative every time someone post a positive about FORD?

That wasn't being negative, that was looking at it factually rather than being one eyed. Some people like to view the entire argument, not just one side so as to gain an accurate perspective of the situation.

[buggerlugs]

Coyote ??? Please explain !!! ( aka Ms Hanson )............

[R-Design]

Originally Posted by buggerlugs

Coyote ??? Please explain !!! ( aka Ms Hanson )............

Enjoy.

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11247463

If you build it, they will come!

[kezzer]

The VE's have been out for 3 years, the FG should have had more sales when it came out. I think holden still managed to double fg's sales the month the fg came out.

Even with the coyote, when the VF comes out, ford will struggle to top Holden.

[FPV+fteT3]

Ford will always have better resale than HSV you take a massive loss with team red but it amazes me that the FPV is in many ways superior to a HSV that HSV do so well in the sales race. Bogan Factor maybe?

[R-Design]

Originally Posted by kezzer

Even with the coyote, when the VF comes out, ford will struggle to top Holden.

That's if HSV's still around kezzer

HSV's got nothing.

[Windsor220]

Originally Posted by kezzer

Even with the coyote, when the VF comes out, ford will struggle to top Holden.

I dont know about that. Didnt the BA Fpvs outsell HSV for a while? And they were about equal in performance at the time.

[TUF_302]

I think FPV have been out doing hsv for a while now, i mean who would want a silly oversized jumbuck when you could get a Super Pursuit!!

[naddis01]

Does anyone have some actual figures?

[uranium_death]

Originally Posted by fpv84d

Ford will always have better resale than HSV you take a massive loss with team red but it amazes me that the FPV is in many ways superior to a HSV that HSV do so well in the sales race. Bogan Factor maybe?

No.
Holden have created a brand image that is 'Australian'.
Last year when I used to wear my Geelong members cap (which had a Ford logo on it), people used to give me a hard time, because "Fords suck", and Holden is "Australian".
Holden have marketing their product brilliantly, and people are willing to believe what they are told, and what they want to believe.

I am not a fan of Carsguide's 'Ask Smithy' section, because every week half his column are about Ford's problems. How can you create a positive image when you have commonly-read columns like that?
While we'll admit that Ford is not perfect, Holden is not the darling of Australia that they may portray themselves to be.

[schnoods]

Surely the VE has almost run its race? There must be a new facelift or model coming out soonish? Its good to see FPV match HSV, but lets be realistic.

HSV also has the Grange as well as the VXR, all it would need is 13 sold cars to match FPV, which i dare say it did, As it states SWB commodore based variants, im not sure whether the barge is counted.

Its good to see the numbers closer than it has been, but when the next gen holden comes out (new powerplant or not) it will be fairly lop sided again in terms of sales, but as long as ford can be competitive its all we can ask for.

[Wretched]

I'm very surprised about this. With the F6 being the only exception, HSV have it all over the rest of the FPV range which in my opinion don't seem to be as special for the $$ as once expected or HSV. If it is true well done FPV.

[XR8putts]

Thats quite a suprize!

Would love to see some figures..

[kezzer]

Originally Posted by Boss315

That's if HSV's still around kezzer

HSV's got nothing.

You would be surprised, but yeh, a big kick in the backside with GM going down the gurgler.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by Wretched

I'm very surprised about this. With the F6 being the only exception, HSV have it all over the rest of the FPV range which in my opinion don't seem to be as special for the $$ as once expected or HSV. If it is true well done FPV.

HSV have it all over FPV?? I bought my GT over an R8, had the choice of either and came home with the better one out of the two..

[kezzer]

Personel preference, I wouldn't mind driving either to be honest!

I hope FPV and HSV stay competitive well into the future and give us some great performance vehicles.

[grafpak]

good on FPV .......sad point fpv build no "0001" pursuit ute is still for sale in qld !!
hsv had $10,000 off maloo utes last december! but best off now is about 4...fpv have been selling off 08 plate models for the last month at big discounts-up to $16000 off !!!!!!!!!!!rrp...fpv were offering crap deals last year and just were not selling !!
this year they have done good deals and are selling well...

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by bfiipursuit

HSV have it all over FPV?? I bought my GT over an R8, had the choice of either and came home with the better one out of the two..

That's your opinion and if that's how you feel then that's fine.
As long as you're happy with your purchase.

[mcnews]

Originally Posted by fpv84d

Ford will always have better resale than HSV you take a massive loss with team red but it amazes me that the FPV is in many ways superior to a HSV that HSV do so well in the sales race. Bogan Factor maybe?

I know at least in the utes HSV do go to a big effort to differentiate from the base model. You just have to look styling wise etc. at a Maloo compared to a FPV ute.... It looks like a whole new vehicle bearing no relation to anything Holden offer....

[GlenW]

Originally Posted by mcnews

I know at least in the utes HSV do go to a big effort to differentiate from the base model. You just have to look styling wise etc. at a Maloo compared to a FPV ute.... It looks like a whole new vehicle bearing no relation to anything Holden offer....

Thats true, the ford utes arent that different to the FPV ones but at a glance you can tell a maloo from a holden ute. For me Id have to say maloo over pursuit.

[kezzer]

The pursuits need a more aggressive body kit, look to similar to the normal utes.

Never having owned a FPV, can you get shakers as an extra on the FPV's?