Mondeo vs Sportswagon

[aussie muscle]

from NRMA Open Road magazine - December 2012

for those who don't receive it...Ford Mondeo wagon vs Holden Sportswagon article. finally some good review from NRMA.

[SteveJH]

Thats upsetting, I would have preferred the Australian built car to win that comparison.

[BA-XT]

Where's the mondeo designed and built? Is it German? Holden needent worry, all the red sheep will flock together and still outsell the mondeo 15 to 1.

You'd hope that the Aussie model would come out in top - but not to be.

[FTE217]

You guys are kidding arn't you ? and I'm a Sportwagon luver but not in the bs 6pack and gearbox.
I'll have a SS anyday if I really had the need or clubsport model.
Mondeo have been catching my eye of late and I followed a white Titanium the other day looked lower as well, very nice.
German built if I'm right.

[383 GXL]

Originally Posted by aussie muscle

from NRMA Open Road magazine - December 2012

for those who don't receive it...Ford Mondeo wagon vs Holden Sportswagon article. finally some good review from NRMA.

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the big australian gone down for the count. dont tell the sheep:

[flappist]

Originally Posted by SteveJH

Thats upsetting, I would have preferred the Australian built car to win that comparison.

Yeh it does not need to be better, or safer, or cheaper just Australian mate.
Crap on a stick it just wonderful provided it is Australian crap on an Australian stick.

And some wonder why Commodores sell so well........

Congrats Ford and Mondeo.

[something wrong]

I have a sportswagon, drove the mondeo and didnt like it, So went the SV6 sportswagon, I won't say i love it but it isnt a bad car to drive.
Should have gone the SS V8 but the SV6 goes well, just miss the sound of a V8, especially when i don't pay for petrol anymore.

[Brazen]

I have a Sportwagon and love it. Best thing I ever bought, and... Rear wheel drive.

[jpd80]

I'm wondering the reason why Ford chose not to import the Ecoboost Stationwagon,
that may have given Commodore Sportwagon even more pain but having said that,
I'm seeing a lot more sign written Rep cars, so it looks like Mondeo might be taking hold.

[jjw]

very surprising assessment - how credible are NRMA comparisons?

[something wrong]

That was a big reason i also went the Sportswagon the rear wheel drive, Plus i think the look of them is tops as well. I went Voodoo blue Met

dislikes

Front pillars make a wicked blind spot
6spd auto sometimes has a delay when i stomp on it, while it shifts down gears.

[FTE217]

Originally Posted by jjw

very surprising assessment - how credible are NRMA comparisons?

Well once upon a time they were "gospel" nowadays I can't say there is so many other comparos now who is the clear cut leader ? but in saying that and knowing the cars I reckon they got it pretty spot on but for one more important future ownership point : service costs for the mondeo would outstrip the 6pack commy.

Yer and as for the blue commy colour they refined our Ford Blueprint imo heck maybe thats why I'd have a SS.

[Ben73]

The commy looks better in that top pic.

I think I would love a dark blue ss sportswagon with some nice 20 inch wheels.

[mash85]

slightly off topic, but has anyone else noticed the layout of this article is exactly the same as wheels put in their mag?

[vztrt]

Why are they measuring boot space with the rear seats down. I'd rather know the difference with them up if I needed a wagon for a family.

[NX74205]

Originally Posted by Mr_BA2003

Where's the mondeo designed and built? Is it German? Holden needent worry, all the red sheep will flock together and still outsell the mondeo 15 to 1.

You'd hope that the Aussie model would come out in top - but not to be.

As far as I know - engineered in Germany, built in Belgium.

Originally Posted by flappist

Yeh it does not need to be better, or safer, or cheaper just Australian mate.
Crap on a stick it just wonderful provided it is Australian crap on an Australian stick.

And some wonder why Commodores sell so well........

Congrats Ford and Mondeo.

Well said.

[Windsor220]

Surprised they bagged the VEs handling so much. Think they handle ok for a large car.

[Incontro]

Yet again people bagging foreign built cars for no other reason that they are non-aussie made.

People, have some faith in your hard-earned cash, why buy a car purely based on the fact that is Australian?

Remember that at the end of the day, better built foreign cars force local manufacturers to raise their standards. (We are not talking about the cost of Chinese manufacturing vs. Australian manufacturing here!)

[TheInterceptor]

At the end of the day...i will go buy a real wagon that ticks all my boxes in the form of an AUII to BFIII wagon.

[mik]

http://openroad.mynrma.com.au/Index.aspx

the link to said article above(page 44), after reading that it would be hard to go the commy over the mondeo.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by vztrt

Why are they measuring boot space with the rear seats down. I'd rather know the difference with them up if I needed a wagon for a family.

exactly. wagons are generally bought by families who need the rear seat for kids and the rear for prams and stuff. i wonder what the capacities would be like with the rear seats up.

as for the comment about rear wheel drive... please... tell me 90% of car buyers would even pick the difference.

[Keepleft]

Originally Posted by flappist

Yeh it does not need to be better, or safer, or cheaper just Australian mate.
Crap on a stick it just wonderful provided it is Australian crap on an Australian stick.

And some wonder why Commodores sell so well........

Congrats Ford and Mondeo.

Yes indeed, bloody oath.

I rented for a few days a current VE Calais, liked it's motor but it feels tinny, like cheap tinfoil compared to the solidity of the Mondeo Titanium that's used as a daily family hack here on crappy pot holed roads. Calais is a tad easier to collapse into according to wifie.

I had been expecting better from the Aussie built item, just not there though. The tarted Commodore doesn't have rear fogs either, but for some god unknown reason has front, only half he job:-). Found the Calais Auto Lights function annoying, either get DRL's or remove the function. I prefer the latter option.

[arronm]

Originally Posted by Brazen

I have a Sportwagon and love it. Best thing I ever bought, and... Rear wheel drive.

I agree I have one as well. Why would I want a front wheel drive European piece of ****. Yeah front wheel drive cars handle well. The mondeo has no style.

[Keepleft]

Originally Posted by arronm

I agree I have one as well. Why would I want a front wheel drive European piece of ****. Yeah front wheel drive cars handle well. The mondeo has no style.

Dude, the Mondeo Titanium look has been copied by other makes since it first made its appearance. It's a better front than the arguably brick ugly Commodore.

Granted, like the GM 6 motor, and Commies tail, for comfort- liked Calais whale handling, absorbs pot holes well, despite NVH. It was kinda like a bar brawler the Calais, something you can not give too much of a stuff about as it does it's job of getting you about., and that in itself can be relaxing! Good for fleets.

[burnz]

shouldnt that be compaired to hundi I45 CW they are both the same size,
even the cruze wagon..

[Wretched]

Good win by Ford. The Mondeo is an underrated car.
If only they had the turbo 5 in a wagon format....

Weird comparison though, SV6 vs Diesel?
Either way the Mondeo certainly held its own.
I do like the sportswagon (esp in SSV form) but if it came down to it, the Mondeo would be my choice. Better built, better tech and a better handler.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Wretched

Good win by Ford. The Mondeo is an underrated car.
If only they had the turbo 5 in a wagon format....

Weird comparison though, SV6 vs Diesel?

a) I-5T is no more, it's been replaced by 2.0 Ecoboost with much better fuel economy
b) Ford does not import the Mondeo Ecoboost stationwagon
c) ADRs require changes to Mondeo's ECE wiring, every model changed costs more.

Either way the Mondeo certainly held its own.
I do like the sportswagon (esp in SSV form) but if it came down to it, the Mondeo would be my choice. Better built, better tech and a better handler.

I hope Ford can do something about Monedo's low sales volume,
I suspect they are very supply limited due to FoE ordering and building..

[prydey]

i'm amused that people still think performance and handling are big sellers. yes i guess they are, but they don't need to be anywhere near the level that people on here seem to have a fixation with. have a look at the bulk of the cars that are selling like hot cakes. corolla, mazda3, suv's, 4wd's, camry, etc etc.

many are 4cyl and front wheel drive. it isn't an issue with 90% of the buying public.

so many times when a car is reviewed on AFF it is useless if it doesn't go like stink or handle like a race car. seriously, step out in the real world.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by prydey

i'm amused that people still think performance and handling are big sellers. yes i guess they are, but they don't need to be anywhere near the level that people on here seem to have a fixation with. have a look at the bulk of the cars that are selling like hot cakes. corolla, mazda3, suv's, 4wd's, camry, etc etc.

many are 4cyl and front wheel drive. it isn't an issue with 90% of the buying public.

so many times when a car is reviewed on AFF it is useless if it doesn't go like stink or handle like a race car. seriously, step out in the real world.

Holden sells about 12,000 V8 vehicles a year, it's a very lucrative option for them but
also extremely vulnerable to high oil prices and changing community views on Carbon emissions..

I think Ford is much better off pursuing fuel efficient vehicles, it may seem strange that
the volume levels are low but sourcing global platforms from another region is far more
commercially secure than investing capital into local products for long term recovery.

[aussie muscle]

Originally Posted by jjw

very surprising assessment - how credible are NRMA comparisons?

they don't normally miss an opportunity to put the boot into ford product