VFACTS June 2009 - Page 3

EDManual · 04-07-2009, 12:14 AM

just worked out that of toyotas huge total, around 11,500 of them are commercials or 4wds!

GS608 · 04-07-2009, 12:34 AM

Falcon based
Falcon - 3410
Ute - 1491
Terri - 1259
Fairlane - 2
Total - 6162

Commodore based
Commodore - 4748
Ute- 1577
Statesmen - 68
Caprice - 177
Total - 6570

Last month the difference was 230 this month its 408, but it is good to see the Falcon ute and territory sales rise after their poor effort last month

**Fordman1** · 04-07-2009, 09:07 AM

Focus is a worry !

RATT · 04-07-2009, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barraxr8

Focus is a worry !

I think supply has been an issue with some models as with Fiesta. New model has just been released, plus runout of the old.

Whitey-AMG · 04-07-2009, 02:44 PM

Falcon - 3410 Commodore - 4748

Amazing !!

That's a huge difference......I kinda thought that breach may have closed somewhat now that the FG has been out for a while and most people are aware of the crash safety ratings and dynamic advantages the Falc has over the Commodore...........

Road_Warrior · 04-07-2009, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ESP

Falcon - 3410 Commodore - 4748

Amazing !!

That's a huge difference......I kinda thought that breach may have closed somewhat now that the FG has been out for a while and most people are aware of the crash safety ratings and dynamic advantages the Falc has over the Commodore...........

1700-odd of those Commodore sales were sportwagons...hence my query about how many Falcon wagons were sold (to get an idea of sedan v sedan sales)

vztrt · 04-07-2009, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ESP

Falcon - 3410 Commodore - 4748

Amazing !!

That's a huge difference......I kinda thought that breach may have closed somewhat now that the FG has been out for a while and most people are aware of the crash safety ratings and dynamic advantages the Falc has over the Commodore...........

Take away the wagon sales and it'll be closer...or add the terri sales.

Whitey-AMG · 04-07-2009, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by vztrt

Take away the wagon sales and it'll be closer...or add the terri sales.

Fair nuff..........add 1249 for terri to the falc figures and you get 4669.......very close but still no cigar.........

Its also worthy to note that Terri sales are static wheras I reckon the Commodore wagon sales will increase over the months.

BlueOvalPrint · 04-07-2009, 12:29 AM

Ford

Ford Escape 85
Ford Fairlane 2
Ford Falcon 3,410
Ford Falcon Ute 1,491
Ford Fiesta 753
Ford Focus 807
Ford Focus Coupe Cabriolet 23
Ford Mondeo 356
Ford Ranger 4X2 610
Ford Ranger 4X4 854
Ford Territory 1,259
Ford Transit 473
Ford Transit Bus 20
Ford Transit C/C 51

Eh? 2 Fairlane sales? I thought it was killed off in 07???

RATT · 04-07-2009, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueOvalPrint

Ford

Ford Escape 85
Ford Fairlane 2
Ford Falcon 3,410
Ford Falcon Ute 1,491
Ford Fiesta 753
Ford Focus 807
Ford Focus Coupe Cabriolet 23
Ford Mondeo 356
Ford Ranger 4X2 610
Ford Ranger 4X4 854
Ford Territory 1,259
Ford Transit 473
Ford Transit Bus 20
Ford Transit C/C 51

Eh? 2 Fairlane sales? I thought it was killed off in 07???

A couple must have been floating around since then.

GK · 05-07-2009, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueOvalPrint

Ford

Ford Escape 85
Ford Fairlane 2
Ford Falcon 3,410
Ford Falcon Ute 1,491
Ford Fiesta 753
Ford Focus 807
Ford Focus Coupe Cabriolet 23
Ford Mondeo 356
Ford Ranger 4X2 610
Ford Ranger 4X4 854
Ford Territory 1,259
Ford Transit 473
Ford Transit Bus 20
Ford Transit C/C 51

Eh? 2 Fairlane sales? I thought it was killed off in 07???

Possibly a few hearses sold?

GK

madmelon · 04-07-2009, 12:33 AM

...when you add up the numbers, Ford is only 400 units behind holden for Aussie made vehicles and both are way ahead of Toyota. (6570 Holden, 6162 Ford, 4666 Toyota). That's if the Kluger is made here- i'm not sure.

phillyc · 04-07-2009, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmelon

...when you add up the numbers, Ford is only 400 units behind holden for Aussie made vehicles and both are way ahead of Toyota. (6570 Holden, 6162 Ford, 4666 Toyota). That's if the Kluger is made here- i'm not sure.

Kluger is not made here. They have considered it, but no word as yet. Since it's off the same Camry/Aurion platform could make sense to do it.

Therefore Toyota locally built sales are only 3311. Put another way, only 17% of their total sales are locals, 83% are imports. By comparison, Ford sells 62% local, just 38% imports.

Clearly 6162 Ford sales is at the plant capacity. They will most probably have to up the line rate from 260 (thanks Barraxr8!) as that limits output to 6000/month.

naddis01 · 04-07-2009, 11:35 AM

Ratt, Those figures you provided say Ford is down 0.9%, Holden up 1.7% etc. Is that compared to last month or June last year or YTD?

RATT · 05-07-2009, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naddis01

Ratt, Those figures you provided say Ford is down 0.9%, Holden up 1.7% etc. Is that compared to last month or June last year or YTD?

Compared to June 08 that is.

Road_Warrior · 04-07-2009, 12:52 PM

Any idea how many Falcon wagons were sold?

territory mate · 04-07-2009, 02:49 PM

:sm_headba in a time where we need to keep jobs for all of us ,is good to see that over 60% of ford sales,meant jobs for aussies,but toyota only had around 1/5th of there's supporting our people.thats got to count for something.

Holden Man · 04-07-2009, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by territory mate

:sm_headba in a time where we need to keep jobs for all of us ,is good to see that over 60% of ford sales,meant jobs for aussies,but toyota only had around 1/5th of there's supporting our people.thats got to count for something.

Totally agree, ^^^^^ I did my bit, New June built sy mk11 terri in my driveway.

EDManual · 04-07-2009, 04:51 PM

So ford arent doing as terribly as the media would have you believe then!!

XR8putts · 04-07-2009, 10:43 PM

Fantastic news for Ford Australia, MB and Geoff Polites would have got on like a house on fire I reccon.

Ghiadude · 05-07-2009, 12:45 PM

When you consider that ford hasnt discounted like holden it probably took more money than holden.

Captiva is korean designed and built stoney, so it shouldnt be counted against australian made and designed competition(i think thats the toopic of that particular conversation

naddis01 · 05-07-2009, 01:45 PM

Does anyone have any figures for the Honda Accord, or point me in the direction to find them?

phillyc · 05-07-2009, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naddis01

Does anyone have any figures for the Honda Accord, or point me in the direction to find them?

It was in this link to GoAuto which is on the 2nd page. http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...2575E8000CC687

Toyota’s Aurion sales were 36.2 per cent down in June to 1628, representing a 15.0 per cent share of the big-six segment, with Honda’s Accord well behind on 745 sales and Nissan’s Maxima being some 426.2 per cent up on June 2008 with 321 sales. Launch stocks of Skoda’s new Superb out-numbered a total of four Grandeurs sold by Hyundai.

Smoke Pursuit · 05-07-2009, 08:14 PM

No, theres are still new Fairlanes sedans left 2007 plate, i think that must be nearly the end of them tho!

Ford dont build hearses.. They use to export wagons (done up as hearses) to UK but not for a long while now.

hy_boi · 06-07-2009, 09:55 AM

At our local dealer here, there whole yard is pretty 08 stock.

And with the tax bonus, as long as the order was placed before june 20 you still got the full benefit.

R-Design · 06-07-2009, 02:17 PM

I thought I'd stick this in here:

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarPoint

On the eve of the launch of Australia's most fuel-efficient car, the new Toyota Prius, Holden has revealed that our love affair with V8s is far from over.

http://carpoint.com.au/news/2009/lar...ve-years-15729

burnz · 06-07-2009, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boss315

I thought I'd stick this in here:

http://carpoint.com.au/news/2009/lar...ve-years-15729

hmmmmmm V8 or prius??????

vztrt · 06-07-2009, 03:53 PM

Sales for NZ.

Ford no 2 and Holden no 6.

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...2575EA0082A561

vztrt · 06-07-2009, 04:12 PM

It would be included, otherwise vfacts would list the car in the break down of models.

Crazed · 06-07-2009, 04:18 PM

Another interesting thing, is if you add the ute sales to Falcon and Commodore they are well on top of the charts. Its good to see Aussies cars still selling.

I also wonder what will happen once Holden releases the LPG Sportwagon (if it happens), surely the lack of LPG must be costing it some sales, especially as 60% of Falcon wagons are LPG.