GT vs Typhoon

[EviLkarL]

Originally Posted by Tote

Does anyone who does a few miles in these vehicles have real world fuel consumption figures between the GT and the Typhoon. I'm also in the market and looking to do 50,000Km a year so fuel economy might make a difference.
Regards
Tote

I can only state the GT

City crusing - 400Km to tank
Highway cruising-750km to tank

Peddle to the medal track day- less then 200km to tank

[Nickxb]

I would go the GT over the F6 just because you can get a GT in manual..... driving an auto just doesnt feel right.

[Ridin-High]

Originally Posted by bigal_1701

One, As you said, no you can't compare a 5 year old BA GT with the old transmissions and what have you, with a brand new E-series (whose gearboxes don't surpass the new Ford boxes, esp ZF, IMO).

Two, you need to check your figures, the GT makes 290kW, the F6 makes 270kW (and do you really care about 17kW).

Three, you say on paper the R8 beats the GT, if your refering to 1/4 mile times, of course it will, but unless your taking it on the track i don't think many people would care about a few tenths of seconds.

So its nice of you to introduce a third option, but could you please back your suggestion with more than just stating the basic specs (which were wrong).

BAM!

you basically just said everything i did the R8 is a better car, 1/4 mile, track, street.

It makes 17kw and what 20 more nm of torque, face it dude holdens product is superior.

You say u can't compare, but ain't they around the same price? If so yes you can compare, if you are not into buying a badge at the moment holden is making a better car. Don't get me wrong the GT is a nice car and looks pretty sweet

[freaky]

Originally Posted by Nickxb

I would go the GT over the F6 just because you can get a GT in manual..... driving an auto just doesnt feel right.

you can get an F6 in manual

[EviLkarL]

Ridin-High, you are completely off topic, nowhere has this thread asked to compare or ask for opinions on a Holden, This is a Ford forum and the question was asked about an F6 and GT.

Why are you even mentioning the H word, no one here wants to hear your opinion on whether that car is superior regardless of truth or fiction.

[mcnews]

Originally Posted by Tote

Does anyone who does a few miles in these vehicles have real world fuel consumption figures between the GT and the Typhoon. I'm also in the market and looking to do 50,000Km a year so fuel economy might make a difference.
Regards
Tote

Average according to the trip for 5000km of city/highway cycle had my F6 averaging 12.7 litres per 100km. A trackday since where I circulated for hours and nearly two tanks of juice has raised that to 13.3 overall average. It has got better as the kilometres have gone on. Mine is the six speed auto, which by the way is just an amazing box.

[freaky]

Originally Posted by Tote

Does anyone who does a few miles in these vehicles have real world fuel consumption figures between the GT and the Typhoon. I'm also in the market and looking to do 50,000Km a year so fuel economy might make a difference.
Regards
Tote

I do around 50/50 freeway/city driving in the F6.

I am a leadfoot. In the city I average around 17l/100. On the freeway its around 12l/100. So combined the trip computer shows around 14.5l/100.

This is based on the trip computer which may not be entirely accurate but close enough.

[ADSXR8]

Originally Posted by Nickxb

I would go the GT over the F6 just because you can get a GT in manual..... driving an auto just doesnt feel right.

Mate, until the BF model, you could only get a Typhoon in manual.

[ADSXR8]

Originally Posted by Tote

Does anyone who does a few miles in these vehicles have real world fuel consumption figures between the GT and the Typhoon. I'm also in the market and looking to do 50,000Km a year so fuel economy might make a difference.
Regards
Tote

There is a thread similar in performance section. I've owned both, previously BA GT-P A4 and now BF Typhoon M6, GTP was heavily bolt-on modded and returned around 15l/100km, Typhoon stock doing same work gets around 11-12l/100km.

[freaky]

Originally Posted by EviLkarL

Pro's
F6- Ford badged, Goes hard, Easily modded
GT-Ford badged, Goes hard, Classic GT, Better resale value, Sounds Awesome, Superior looks with rear wing and bonnet buldge and strip package gives the car a better presents on the road.

Con's
F6- Resale value, Exhaust note, Overall road presents
GT- Possible higher running costs then the F6

Alot of people list the better road presence of the GT as a Positive. I prefer to have less road presence as I hate drawing attention so for me, the road presence of the GT is actually a negative. The F6 can be confused with an XR6T and kind of blends in.

Having said that, even in the F6, I get people taking photos with camera phones, giving me a thumbs up, and of course having many insecure Holden SS Ute drivers wanting to drag race.

PS. Only speaking for myself here, as I can't speak for others. I don't care about resale. I lease my cars. I lease them to enjoy them and don't really care what they are worth when its time for them to go.

[ADSXR8]

Originally Posted by freaky

Alot of people list the better road presence of the GT as a Positive. I prefer to have less road presence as I hate drawing attention so for me, the road presence of the GT is actually a negative. The F6 can be confused with an XR6T and kind of blends in.

Having said that, even in the F6, I get people taking photos with camera phones, giving me a thumbs up, and of course having many insecure Holden SS Ute drivers wanting to drag race.

PS. Only speaking for myself here, as I can't speak for others. I don't care about resale. I lease my cars. I lease them to enjoy them and don't really care what they are worth when its time for them to go.

Happens to my missus every day, photos, thumbs up and the insecure Holden drivers, oh and Subaru, Nissan, MPS and even on occasion Ford V8 drivers.

With fuel tipping $1.50 per litre, Typhoon resale I think will be better too.

[freaky]

Originally Posted by ADSF6

Happens to my missus every day, photos, thumbs up and the insecure Holden drivers, oh and Subaru, Nissan, MPS and even on occasion Ford V8 drivers.

With fuel tipping $1.50 per litre, Typhoon resale I think will be better too.

Fuel is one the things I am very fortunate with, locked in at $1 per litre due to the company having a massive fleet and doing the deal with fuel company. Vortex 98 at $1 for the remaining 3 years of the lease.

[james22]

Originally Posted by Ridin-High

been in both (BA GT). GT sounds good.... R8 goes alot smoother and harder

can't relly compare the GT to the new R8, GT is about the same as the VZ R8 (manual, the auto GT wins)

6.0L vs 5.4L
307kw vs 270 EDIT 290???????? lol
550nm vs 520/30?
Better chasis

Wouldn't even matter if i hadnt been in them, on paper the R8 easy beats the GT end of story

Yeah but those power figures are typhoon lol

try Boss 290

[FPVTurboTaxi]

bf mk2 phoon 06
Ive done 10 000 kms in 3 months
average overall is 13.2 l/100ks

i see 10 k/l on the open rd with cruise
around town i see 15-17 but i do drive it

[data_mine]

When shopping I test drove both F6's and GT's in both manual and ZF auto forms, and a manual Clubsport.

I bought the one that consistently put the biggest smile on my face (BF GT-P).

I suggest anyone buying a performance car do the same.

[jasper361]

As said above go with what puts a smile on your dial, personally i think the F6 is the best alround vehicle ford have got at the moment. Which is why Wheels mag put the Phoon up against the HSV GTS and not the GT or GT-P.

[needaXYGT]

You will not get a definitive answer. Both cars are awesome but have very different characteristics.

WINNER WINNER WINNER!

just go and test drive and decide for your self.

[Rodp]

I'm nearing the same decision as you are right now and I love my V8's (I've owned 7 of them) but I'm starting to sway towards the hairdryer for some unknown reason. I still get a lot of joy from the modified note of my XR8 but I'm never one to hang onto a car for too long.

Ultimately it comes down to personal decision, lumpy 8 or hairdryer on a 6. Drive both and see what floats your boat the most.

[TS50]

Originally Posted by ADSF6

There is a thread similar in performance section. I've owned both, previously BA GT-P A4 and now BF Typhoon M6, GTP was heavily bolt-on modded and returned around 15l/100km, Typhoon stock doing same work gets around 11-12l/100km.

Well what the hell, My Tornado manual ute, around city 19l/100km
country, just did a 600 km trip , 550 km highway, 50 city, returned 12.7l /100 km.
My Windsor does better than that. However everyone i hear with a auto F6 does much better

[ADSXR8]

Originally Posted by TS50

Well what the hell, My Tornado manual ute, around city 19l/100km
country, just did a 600 km trip , 550 km highway, 50 city, returned 12.7l /100 km.
My Windsor does better than that. However everyone i hear with a auto F6 does much better

Wow, that ain't too great.

Do you work it out manually? Or use the trip metre?

It was exactly the same with my GT-P, if the trip metre says 14.5l/100km, actual consumption was 13.5-13.7l/100km. I always fill up to the top, re-set odo and calculate manaully. Always works in your favour.

Either that, or take off those lead boots!

[SpoolMan]

I have a BF F6, 350 RWKW average for the last 3 months daily driving 13.8L
My last car BA XR8 Ute, 240 rwkw daily driving 15.9L
The F6 is better on fuel but like any car its how you drive it.
Driving a F6 it's a real rush, they pull like freight train its all about the torque..

[JAYBA]

i drove both recently at a dealer

Gt looks better has more presence has more urge above 4500rpm
and too be honest didnt feel much slower

typhoon feels that little bit quicker because the torque and boost
comes on in a big lump pushing you in the back but in the zf auto
it falls away once it changes to 2nd gear as its out of its meat at the top of first and boost has to come back in second due to the cut out between shifts
it also clunked when backing of just before a gear change
personally i prefer the 4sp auto in my xr8 but it has been beefed up a little and has the shifts firmed.

Gt sounds better at idle and WOT and has better throttle response

phoon didnt make me fell like i was driving a $60000 car
the GT did.
you'l know when you drive them which one you prefer..as said in a thread i saw the phoon feels clinical in the way it works the Gt feels more "spiritual" with want for a better word

[burnz]

take my advise from the holden driver
a V8 will allways turn heads.
a turbo are quickly becoming a nuesence, (blow off valves and crap)
the lazey torque of an eight will put you at ease no such thing as a hill,
a turbo will annoye you with it's incesent whine as it hit the hill but will
still murder the hill and deliver good torque.
simply the choise is yourse to choose from but think in the future
will the V8 suit your need or the turbo
it's a tough choise

[exrtnz]

I've driven both and the typhoon is alot more fun to drive and it handles way better than the GT (with the ZF auto) havent driven a manual.
All the GT needs is an alloy block and 30kw and it would be a completely different story!

[TS50]

Originally Posted by ADSF6

Wow, that ain't too great.

Do you work it out manually? Or use the trip metre?

It was exactly the same with my GT-P, if the trip metre says 14.5l/100km, actual consumption was 13.5-13.7l/100km. I always fill up to the top, re-set odo and calculate manaully. Always works in your favour.

Either that, or take off those lead boots!

Do it both ways, usually only about .6 lt / 100 km diff from manual calc to trip comp
Iand i try not to wear my lead boots all the time
lol

[kryzak260]

I test drove a BF1 Typhoon and a BF2 Force 8 (didnt have an auto GT) back to back on wednesday night.

I felt that the typhoon was alot more fun to drive, because i could stamp on it anywhere and it would get the adrenalin going instantly. When i took the 8 for the same lap, is was fast, (and an awesome noise) but it didnt get the adrenalin going or feel as fast as the f6.

I walked away from it with the opinion that i could have fun with the typhoon in small areas or in traffic due to the power delivery and the (what i felt was) better handling. With the 8, i felt that i would need alot of room to have fun because of the handling and the way you had to wind the engine up to 4000+ before it would boogie.

Horses for courses i guess - go and drive them both and get what you feel is best. I will be getting an F6, but only because that is what had me grinning like a mug lair when i got out of it!

[SP.UTE1]

We have one of each,
The F6 is the wifes car!
And the Boss 290 Ute is the Mans car! :
I guess that says it all. Hair dryers are for ladies. :
Regards Bob

[Charliewool]

Originally Posted by burnz

take my advise from the holden driver
a V8 will allways turn heads.
a turbo are quickly becoming a nuesence, (blow off valves and crap)
the lazey torque of an eight will put you at ease no such thing as a hill,
a turbo will annoye you with it's incesent whine as it hit the hill but will
still murder the hill and deliver good torque.
simply the choise is yourse to choose from but think in the future
will the V8 suit your need or the turbo
it's a tough choise

Mate, have you actually DRIVEN either of these up "your hill"???

I've owned a Boss (BA Pursuit with bolt-on mods), an XR6T and now an F6 (injectors & edit).... The F6 is far & away a country mile ahead in the torque department (even BEFORE mods) These things are absolute torque monsters!

[TS50]

Originally Posted by charliewool

Mate, have you actually DRIVEN either of these up "your hill"???

I've owned a Boss (BA Pursuit with bolt-on mods), an XR6T and now an F6 (injectors & edit).... The F6 is far & away a country mile ahead in the torque department (even BEFORE mods) These things are absolute torque monsters!

Was thinking the same, the F6 just never stops pulling

[JBomb3000]

Originally Posted by JAYBA

the phoon feels clinical in the way it works the Gt feels more "spiritual" with want for a better word

Thats a great way of summing it up IMO. Basically thats what i was alluding to with my "GT's can sing but they can't dance" comment earlier in the thread.