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Old 19-06-2007, 05:15 PM   #31
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I may have heard wrong, but Im pretty sure they just said on the radio that he has been charged.
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Old 19-06-2007, 05:41 PM   #32
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That is crazy if he gets charged.
He was invited to do a burnout at the charity event!
All forseable controls were met.
If anything, the event organisers should be charged.
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Old 19-06-2007, 06:02 PM   #33
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Talk about timeing, this months street machine magazine has a story about Troy
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Old 19-06-2007, 07:15 PM   #34
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Absolutely tragic... I'm not sure that anyone has responsibility for the deaths, but there are a lot of lessons to be learnt here, most of which should already have been known :(
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Old 19-06-2007, 07:20 PM   #35
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Money was supposed to be raised for kids with disabilities, after this i'm sure there will be a few more. :
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Money was supposed to be raised for kids with disabilities, after this i'm sure there will be a few more. :
Or a few less
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Old 21-06-2007, 11:40 AM   #37
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thank god we have good safety codes in oz. shame about troy. Read the article last nite. i feel for him. but thats USA.
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Old 21-06-2007, 11:48 AM   #38
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I may have heard wrong, but Im pretty sure they just said on the radio that he has been charged.
i don't think he's been charged. from the brisbanetimes website this morning:

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Old 22-06-2007, 05:03 PM   #39
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The Herald Sun tried a beat up story cause he got caught drink driving back in 2000, implying he was probably at it again. : Typical journolistic BS. No one in their right mind would drink drive in a drag car.
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Old 22-06-2007, 05:18 PM   #40
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If no criminal charges, i would expect civil will still be an option.
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Old 26-06-2007, 03:15 PM   #41
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Anyone heard anymore on this story ?
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Story on 60 minutes now.
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just flicked over, did i miss it?
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Old 13-07-2008, 07:50 PM   #44
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It’s just finished. You’ll be able to watch it on the 60 Minutes website.
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Old 13-07-2008, 07:50 PM   #45
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yep you missed it, go to 60 minutes homepage and watch it there
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Old 13-07-2008, 07:55 PM   #47
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bugger, bad timing sucks, have to watch it in the morning, bloody dialup
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Old 13-07-2008, 08:16 PM   #48
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I would think troy could charge the oganisers to. Not saying he should . it is a tragety and from the 60 minutes story the mother wants blood . Can't say i blame her but directed a troy i dont think so . He should of said no to doing the run but with all those people cheering you on it would be very hard to do so. I believe it was just a standard road minmal traction . bad organisation.
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Old 13-07-2008, 08:33 PM   #49
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Typical Americans not able to be accountable for their actions and need a scapegoat to sue.
The organisers should bear the brunt of this.
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Old 13-07-2008, 08:37 PM   #50
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the organizers are to blame full stop they should have had a safe controled setup he was a guest that could of been any one of those cars doing the burn outs
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yanks are just S T U P I D !!! no barriers? and it was allowed? the people standing on the SIDE of the strip are just as STUPID! and yet the one bloke cops the lot? not right. And really if was gunna do a huge burnout in conditions like that i WOULDNT have gone through with it so he some to blame. but not all, thats yanks 4 ya thoe. just look at bush. phhhh, what a .
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Old 13-07-2008, 09:08 PM   #52
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Saw the story. It would be down right wrong if troy cops this. Living with it is punishment enough IMO.
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Saw the story. It would be down right wrong if troy cops this. Living with it is punishment enough IMO.
agreed mate, he would be absolutely shattered, and then to have some idiots sueing him for all hes worth, plus a criminal case pending over his shoulders, far out give the guy a break, it was an accident, what ever happened to the disclosure on the back of tickets that says in big bold letters "MOTOR RACING IS A DANGEROUS SPORT, ENTER AT OWN RISK " or something to that effect, it basically was a motorsport event, i'd place the organisers at more blame than troy..
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Old 13-07-2008, 09:18 PM   #54
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Saw the story. It would be down right wrong if troy cops this. Living with it is punishment enough IMO.
agreed...and if the footage serves me correctly...the people were pretty much lined up ALL THE WAY DOWN the part of road blocked off. At willowbank...and other drag strips on tv, im sure the stands DONT go all the way down the strip either.
Organisers are to blame, and should cop the punishment.
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Old 13-07-2008, 09:26 PM   #55
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Honestly I dont think anyone should be to blame. Everyone their would have been well aware what they were doing was dangerous. It was a freak accident. Yes it could have been prevented, but then again no one was forcing those people to stand their. It's a terrible thing to happen but to blame Troy, C'mon hes a professional. If he couldnt stop it know one could.
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Old 13-07-2008, 09:45 PM   #56
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Unfortunately this couldnt have worked out any better for the media ! Now all their hard work at calling P platers involved in crashes "DRAG RACERS" will be even more revevent to them !

This will be have a huge inpact on real Drag racing circles all over the world ! Not to mention other motorsports ! I do feel sorry for Troy Critchley , but He should have known better ! These cars can get away from even the most experienced driver in a split second !
If you stuff up a drag racing, maybe... just maybe motorsport isnt your thing. Try ballet instead.
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Harsh, but true. Maybe race horses instead of cars.
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Old 13-07-2008, 10:26 PM   #58
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I believe (from the story) the local police chief was in charge of crowd placement and safety. So if anyone is going to be the scapegoat, there's your man.

I wish Troy all the best for the case and hope justice is served (ie no conviction), the poor bloke has to live with it and that is punishment enough. I know for a fact one of my brothers was involved in a fatal accident and had nightmares for years afterwards.
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Old 13-07-2008, 10:32 PM   #59
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Honestly I dont think anyone should be to blame. Everyone their would have been well aware what they were doing was dangerous. It was a freak accident. Yes it could have been prevented, but then again no one was forcing those people to stand their. It's a terrible thing to happen but to blame Troy, C'mon hes a professional. If he couldnt stop it know one could.
i do think that there are alot more people to blame than troy. the people that were standing there as well. the problem with human nature is that people always try to get the best view and forget about the consequences. rallying is a classic example
as you said though, troy is a professional. he should have realised, that while he would nearly always have it under control, there may come a time when an accident could happen. to have people so close, when performing a demonstration in a drag car seems so totally crazy and irresponsible to me
i would suggest that if the scenario that happened had gone through troy's head before hand, that he would have expected the court case and litigation. if that was the case why would he risk everything when so much could go wrong
he was the driver involved and he was the one who was responsible for the performance, both good or bad. unfortunately the worst case scenario happened
having said all this, i am sure that he has gone through a massive amount of mental anguish already and the incident will stay with him for the rest of his life. maybe he has paid enough and will continue to pay even without any charges
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Thats right, as he said he often cries himself to sleep. I honestly had teary eyes watching it. I feel for this bloke and I deeply hope he isn't charged. No one should have to live through this let alone the rest of the rubbish he is facing. The organisers have more to answer for IMO, but it was still an accident. And in the case of such an Accident no one can really be to blame. Maybe Troy should have known better, but on the other hand so should the spectators, I bet they didn't think about the worst.
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