QLD fog light laws

[Bundy]

Originally Posted by Oldfordwag

Just to save you some grief, you cannot cross a solid white line at all.

Nope your wrong on that one.

[Oldfordwag]

Originally Posted by bundy

Nope your wrong on that one.

I stand corrected, no overtaking or U-turns over a solid white line.

Line Markings Qld

[flappist]

Originally Posted by Oldfordwag

I stand corrected, no overtaking or U-turns over a solid white line.

Line Markings Qld

Ah so they have changed that one too, you used to be able to overtake vehicles turning left etc.

Good find....

[Eu-GenixX]

my understanding to merging was... if a lane runs out. ie 2 lanes turn into 1... the person who's lane ends must give way...

when merging onto a freeway type situation... the person on the freeway gives way to the car merging in...

[V3RSAC3]

Had this in S.A. for awhile now. It's the dumbest thing ever. Next they will be Getting you for having your window down.

[Oldfordwag]

Originally Posted by V3RSAC3

Had this in S.A. for awhile now. It's the dumbest thing ever. Next they will be Getting you for having your window down.

Well they're considering the no smoking rule now just like the yanks in certain parts.

[deesun]

Originally Posted by Eu-GenixX

my understanding to merging was... if a lane runs out. ie 2 lanes turn into 1... the person who's lane ends must give way...

when merging onto a freeway type situation... the person on the freeway gives way to the car merging in...

I beleive in NSW your first rule above would be the correct and sensible one and that person will have broken white lines at the end of their lane meaning GIVE WAY.
As for your rule 2 in NSW the same for rule 1 as the person merging ie coming on to the freeway will have the broken lines again. Over the last 5-8 years I have noticed a gradual increase in cars allowing merging better by moving into the next lane for the traffic coming on to the freeway then moving back when it is safe to do so. Mostly anyway.

My understanding of NSW rules is also that you are not allowed to cross ANY unbroken white line, U turning, overtaking, undertaking, any taking. Not sure about turning into or out of a property si I may have to read up on that. Guess I just failed my drivers test, AGAIN. .

[FordFalconBF]

Originally Posted by Oldfordwag

Well they're considering the no smoking rule now just like the yanks in certain parts.

Isn't it illegal to smoke in the car if you have kids as passengers?

[deesun]

Originally Posted by Oldfordwag

Well they're considering the no smoking rule now just like the yanks in certain parts.

New rule in NSW, NO smoking in car with child, under 12, passenger. But they don't or won't enforce the no talking on mobile rule so Why TF do they bother with some of the others? :

[V3RSAC3]

It's getting rediculas. I had an officer tell me tonight in a driver breath testing station that he could defect me for my whitewalls... Im like wtf? How?

[geckoGT]

Originally Posted by flappist

The other major change is that it is now illegal to do a U turn over a single solid white line.
Watch out for that one as it is OK to cross it to overtake.

That must be why I see so many do illegal u turns and overtaking, because queenslanders don't know it has always been illegal to u turn or overtake across unbroken lines. :

As for the car turning left scenario where there is an unbroken white line, you can only do so if you can pass safely without crossing the line. It has been that way for a long time.

[bluestreak]

Originally Posted by bfiipursuit

...I have an easy solution to foglights, disconnect them!!!

While I agree with that idea, you can be defected if your lights aren't operational. Personally it does irritate me to be driving at night and be confronted by a wall of dazzling light. I'm pretty sure the law in WA is that you can't drive with your headlights AND fog lights on - 3 points + $150

That's right, when you cross a broken line to merge you must give way to traffic in that lane. You will notice sometimes there is no broken line ie both lane markers end. When you see this the rule is merge in turn.

While I always show courtesy with merging traffic I'm amazed by the number of drivers that use the "b pillar" rule when merging across a broken line.

Is the QLD rule inconsistent with other states?

Now I have to find a link to confirm this, but I'm pretty sure the rule is that you must give way to whichever vehicle is most in front ("b pillar" rule), otherwise the flow of traffic is impeded. Ideally traffic should merge in turn, like a zipper, whomever's lane is ending. However, that might be a topic for another thread...

Cheers

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[Pedro]

[QUOTE=Mr Hardware]This is very good news. I hate those 'driving lights'........QUOTE]


Well you'll just have to go on hating. Because it's not illegal to have driving lights switched on in daylight .... only foglights are illegal. The lower lights on Fords are foglights. Driving lights are mostly found on imports.

[J.C.]

[QUOTE=Pedro]

Originally Posted by Mr Hardware

This is very good news. I hate those 'driving lights'........QUOTE]


Well you'll just have to go on hating. Because it's not illegal to have driving lights switched on in daylight .... only foglights are illegal. The lower lights on Fords are foglights. Driving lights are mostly found on imports.

The lower lights on the T-series are driving lights (referring to AUIII is this case). They come on when high beam is engaged. They are not referred to in the hand book as fog lights either.

[cs123]

Originally Posted by bluestreak

Now I have to find a link to confirm this, but I'm pretty sure the rule is that you must give way to whichever vehicle is most in front ("b pillar" rule), otherwise the flow of traffic is impeded. Ideally traffic should merge in turn, like a zipper, whomever's lane is ending. However, that might be a topic for another thread...

It probably is going off topic a bit much, but here is a link to the QLD rules
http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/reso...ules_partC.pdf. Bottom of pg76

[2stroksmokr]

So when will public know any announcement or what not?

I leave my fog lights button on so when I turn my lights on they come on as well. I use them heaps for when I'm driving daily up and down the range to my farm. So now your saying I'm not even allowed to drive with them on? Confused as hell I don't understand whats legal these days. Seems wrong to even drive.

[cs123]

Originally Posted by 2stroksmokr

So when will public know any announcement or what not?

I leave my fog lights button on so when I turn my lights on they come on as well. I use them heaps for when I'm driving daily up and down the range to my farm. So now your saying I'm not even allowed to drive with them on? Confused as hell I don't understand whats legal these days. Seems wrong to even drive.

http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/Home...ulations/Road/

[2stroksmokr]

thank you mate

[Wally]

Originally Posted by 2stroksmokr

So when will public know any announcement or what not?

...

Well it was in the Courier Mail a while back and other publications e.g.:

September 10, 2009 .
.....................
"As well as stipulating that all children up to age seven are appropriately restrained, the new regulations will guide parents and carers in the selection of the best type of seat or capsule for their child."

Other road rules from the national package being rolled out across all states will come into effect in Queensland from October 12.

These include a $300 fine and three demerit points for a driver carrying a passenger of any age without a seatbelt, where previously a driver was only liable when the passenger was under 16 years of age.

A driver doing a U-turn over a single continuous centre line will risk a $180 fine and the loss of three demerit points, and driving with front fog lights in clear weather will risk a $40 fine

e.g. http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/quee...0910-fjav.html

[Mr Hardware]

We'd occasionally get falcons in to be cabs that had those smart bars on them with the inbuilt driving lights. 1st thing we'd do is disconnect em.

[ebxr8240]

I think there is a case for DAY lights but specific low wattage etc..
Similar to Audi ..
Btw any lights that surprise you can be dazzling and frightening ...
Isn't that the whole idea of lights ??
I don't mean 1000 watt driving lights though !!
Ohh threads like this?? And the law...
WHERE"S THE COMMON SENSE !!!!

[ch33z1l]

Originally Posted by V3RSAC3

It's getting rediculas. I had an officer tell me tonight in a driver breath testing station that he could defect me for my whitewalls... Im like wtf? How?

I'm guessing they could use the 'vehicle is not of the standard other' ploy?

[ebxr8240]

You cannot cross solid white line's!!! Lol...

[Burnout]

Originally Posted by Mr Hardware

We'd occasionally get falcons in to be cabs that had those smart bars on them with the inbuilt driving lights. 1st thing we'd do is disconnect em.

I have one of those Smart Bars on my Ute - they are wired up to high beam, and are pointed outwards to light up the table drain.
I can see why you would disconnect them on a vehicle which would be a city cab, 99% of the time you only need lo-beam.

[Burnout]

Originally Posted by ebxr8240

Ohh threads like this?? And the law...
WHERE"S THE COMMON SENSE !!!!

It can be unwise go get the law confused with common sense or confused with justice for that matter.

[platinumXR]

ARR 147 Moving from one marked lane to another marked lane across a continuous line separating the lanes

A driver on a multi-lane road must not move from one marked lane to another marked lane by crossing a continuous line separating the lanes unless:
(a) the driver is avoiding an obstruction, or
(b) the driver is obeying a traffic control device applying to the first marked lane, or
(c) the driver is permitted to drive in both marked lanes under another provision of these Rules or under another law of this jurisdiction, or
(d) either of the marked lanes is a special purpose lane in which the driver is permitted to drive under these Rules and the driver is moving to or from the special purpose lane.

Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.

[Eu-GenixX]

Originally Posted by Pedro

Well you'll just have to go on hating. Because it's not illegal to have driving lights switched on in daylight .... only foglights are illegal. The lower lights on Fords are foglights. Driving lights are mostly found on imports.

i thought this was the other way around.. i consider the lower lights on Fords/basically all new cars... as driving lights...

Fog lights to me are yellow.. like you find on imports... or those Super Bright red lights you see in the lower right side on the rear end of Excels...

[geckoGT]

Originally Posted by Eu-GenixX

i thought this was the other way around.. i consider the lower lights on Fords/basically all new cars... as driving lights...

Fog lights to me are yellow.. like you find on imports... or those Super Bright red lights you see in the lower right side on the rear end of Excels...

Yawn!!!!!!!

You are wrong, sorry.

Driving lights normally have a higher wattage globe than the low beam, aimed higher to throw light further forward and wired in tandem with the high beam.

Fog lights are low wattage, about the same as low beam, aimed lower than low beam and wired to operate with the park lights. Fog lights according to every road regulation in australia can be either white or yellow.

The late model ford, holden, toyota etc lower lights in the front bar are fog lights, not driving lights. Even the B series owners manual states they are fog lights, but what would the engineers that designed the car to comply with australian design regulations know.

The low voltage, often LED lights that are on permanently on cars such as many of the new audi's are called daytime running lights, they are not driving lights either.

[Eu-GenixX]

ahh... well there you go... i honestly didn't know that... so thanks for clearing that up...

[platinumXR]

Originally Posted by geckoGT

Yawn!!!!!!!

You are wrong, sorry.

Driving lights normally have a higher wattage globe than the low beam, aimed higher to throw light further forward and wired in tandem with the high beam.

Fog lights are low wattage, about the same as low beam, aimed lower than low beam and wired to operate with the park lights. Fog lights according to every road regulation in australia can be either white or yellow.

The late model ford, holden, toyota etc lower lights in the front bar are fog lights, not driving lights. Even the B series owners manual states they are fog lights, but what would the engineers that designed the car to comply with australian design regulations know.

The low voltage, often LED lights that are on permanently on cars such as many of the new audi's are called daytime running lights, they are not driving lights either.

...and fog and driving lights are generally "Spread beam" as opposed to "Pencil Beam" which are generally called spotlights but can also be called driving lights. It's like it depends on how old you are and or which TAFE you went to as to what you call them...but...it's the pencil/spread reflector that really differentiates them.

I know this is a hotbed of contention and don't really want to dig up "That old chestnut" (sorry Mod's)...but you can really call them, and use them for either.

The clear fog lights have usually got a Narva/Hella/Philips All Weather style (or similar to whichever brand) globe in them that emit a different light to just a normal driving style globe. The lens of the globe is coated differently and uses a different gas. It gives of the same effect as having the distinctive yellow lens on traditional fog lights of old and is designed to be used as a "Driving" or "Fog" light.

Using non "All Weather" globes will have a similar but not the same effect as they are simply mounted low to the ground and sort of pass under the fog which...(if my urban myth memory serves me)...actually does not sit on the ground and allows the light, to light up the road and not reflect off the water droplets and glare back.

And people please...turn them off when you are facing oncoming traffic or following another car...they are bright, distracting and attract a fine from Plod and generally inconsiderate.