Driving laws you may not know you're breaking

[AWD Chaser]

Originally Posted by csv8

You cann't flash your lights from low to high beam to warn of a revenue camera. BUT you can flash from off to low beam to warn of the revenue camera.

No you cant! - flashing your lights, honking your horn, even going 100m down the road of the speed camera and putting up a sign is "Perverting the course of justice" and is criminal offence... however, in the court of law, they will need to prove you were flashing your lights to warn of a speed camera, and not just testing your light switch....

The loophole here is that this does not apply if you are travelling less than 500m for the purpose of farming. Funnily enough, the rules do not specify if this loophole is only applicable to animals, though you'd need to be fairly creative to justify using your girlfriend for farming.

But if you were driving on a farm, road rules dont apply as its private land...

[Tobey]

Originally Posted by AWD Chaser

But if you were driving on a farm, road rules dont apply as its private land...

Depends. There are a few that do. Eg, Predatory driving, drive manner dangerous & DUI.

[LTDHO]

Originally Posted by Ducati888

. It's the other way around.

No it's not.

[Poorboy_racer]

Some time ago a freind of mine got done for being drunk in charge of a wheelchair, and he was not larking around in it, he is disabled.

[svo supporter]

If you hit a farm animal on the road, the best way round it is, remove the branding/ear tag...Cut it up and there's tea for a week or more. (Just don't get caught)

Mobile phone law.....Someone obviously doesn't watch TV or listen to the radio or even read the paper....There's ads splashed all over these media outlets about this being an offense. So someone really needs to listen/read the media outlets, rather than spend so much time on the interweb.

Splashing mud on a bus....If it's accidental..ie you don't swerve at it, no copper would fine you for it....They might be mongrels in some peoples eyes, but they do use common sense the majoity of the time. So chances of getting pinged for that are slim.

DUI...On a horse...The law has been in since horses were the form of transport....The gov't has never removed that from the legislation (if that's where it is)....So yep, you can get pinged for it.

The rest....UUMMM...sounds like common sense to me....Then again, the majority of the road rules are common sense. You fail to use iot, the coppers can fine you for it...Of course there are exceptions to the rule, but I don't think it's worth going into.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Poorboy_racer

Some time ago a freind of mine got done for being drunk in charge of a wheelchair, and he was not larking around in it, he is disabled.

What the flamingo?

[66GT]

Ok so I understand you can get booked for exceeding the posted speed limit. However if your in reverse, how can you safely check your speed is under the limit - especially the 21km when entering a round about?

[Jim Goose]

Originally Posted by 66GT

Ok so I understand you can get booked for exceeding the posted speed limit. However if your in reverse, how can you safely check your speed is under the limit - especially the 21km when entering a round about?

Thats your problem... same with if your speedo doesnt work... the speed limit is the speed limit...forwards, backwards or sideways.... not having a speedo has nothing to do obaying the speed limit.

Same with school zones which has a specified time.... if you dont have a watch.. thats your problem...

[burnz]

what happens if it was the bus that splashed the mud while picking up it's passengers ?

[Landau Stable]

Originally Posted by Jim Goose

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Same with school zones which has a specified time.... if you dont have a watch.. thats your problem...

That's one thing that annoys me. You can apparently look at your wristwatch to check the time if you car does not have a clock. Press a button on your phone to light it up and show the time? Bam. Criminal, time to pay up.

[Streets]

Cars have clocks on the dash

[pottery beige]

$10 says ive broken a few that dont even exist..

[Nikked]

What happens in schools zones, say, if your clock is out?

Is there a +/- allowance?

[Ducati888]

Originally Posted by Peter B - CV8

Ummm, if they owned a seeing eye dog - they wouldn't be driving....

Hehehe, thanks for responding. I was hoping the obvious irony of my comment would be accepted by most, due to it being blindingly obvious to even the dumbest reader, but alas I was mistaken.

Not surprised though.

[chrisfpv]

Originally Posted by csv8

You cann't flash your lights from low to high beam to warn of a revenue camera. BUT you can flash from off to low beam to warn of the revenue camera.

I'll ask the stupid question. How do you flash from off to low beam? Just turn on your low beams, is that it?

[Fantome]

Just thought I would give a warning to the kids on my school run tomorrow. If it rains I will NOT stop for you, just in case I splash any mud.

[Ducati888]

Originally Posted by csv8

The Current Legal Situation
Queensland still relies on an old common law rule (Searle v Wallbank) for animals
straying onto the road or highway, whereby owners will usually be immune from
liability in negligence.
At common law, the owner or occupier of land adjoining a highway owes no duty of
care to users of the highway for damage caused by straying stock. An owner or
occupier does not even have a duty to maintain his or her fences to prevent cattle
straying onto the road.
Page 1 of 5
http://www.racq.com.au/__data/assets...ying_stock.pdf

Correct, but that's only QLD. The common law reliance has been changed everywhere else:

http://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/doc...eRBR201010.PDF

"Provisions clearly modelled on Section 8(1) of the UK Animals Act are to be found in Part VIII of the Victorian Wrongs Act 1958 inserted by the Wrongs (Animals Straying on Highways) Act 1984 (Victoria), Part IV of the Law of Animals Act 1962 (Tasmania) as amended by the Law of Animals Amendment Act 1985, and Section 3(1) of Western Australia’s Highways (Liability for Straying Animals) Act 1983. In New South Wales,32 South Australia33 and the ACT34 the rule in Searle v Wallbank has also been abrogated by statute. In Queensland, to date, common law principles still apply. Nor does the common law rule appear to have been abolished in the Northern Territory35"

It goes on to say that there are calls for reform to this law in QLD.

So, in summary, a farmer is negligent for livestock on the road everywhere except QLD & NT. Given that the OP referred to NSW road rules, I was correct anyway.

[Ducati888]

Originally Posted by chrisfpv

I'll ask the stupid question. How do you flash from off to low beam? Just turn on your low beams, is that it?

Um, your lights have an on/off switch don't they? It's also an off/on/off switch.

[Jim Goose]

Originally Posted by Nikked

What happens in schools zones, say, if your clock is out?

Is there a +/- allowance?

Um... there is no allowance when you break the speed limit.

Its called "officers discretion" as to what allowance he gives you....
If your 1min past im sure he wont bother.... 15mins?

[EDManual]

did you know that when you are in a lane with arrows to turn and you have your blinker on, that is an offence!!

[Ducati888]

Technically you have already turned when you are in that lane, so blinkers are superfluous if you can only go in one direction.

[irdonn]

Has anyone heard the one that makes urinating on the your rear left tyre on the side of the road legal? I've heard that one do the rounds a few times.

Ian

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by Nikked

What happens in schools zones, say, if your clock is out?

Is there a +/- allowance?

That happened a few years ago. Clock was 10 or 15 min out and he got off as his boss came in to testify that all his work vans clocks were out and the drivers didn't know.

[OLDFORDNUT]

the shcool zone is a no brainer for most people, you know when you are close to the start of school day or end without needing to look at a clock ,if you told me that as an excuse after running over a kid in front of my eyes id flog you before cops ever got near ,Pathetic realy,it scares me to think people dont take extra care anywhere near a school, same goes for bus stops (you as a normal human know kids do things without realising the danger so i always expect a kid to walk or run from in front and behind a bus and slow right down just in case.

[flappist]

Originally Posted by AWD Chaser

No you cant! - flashing your lights, honking your horn, even going 100m down the road of the speed camera and putting up a sign is "Perverting the course of justice" and is criminal offence... however, in the court of law, they will need to prove you were flashing your lights to warn of a speed camera, and not just testing your light switch....

YES YOU CAN well up here and in a few other states anyway.

Every morning the radio stations broadcast where the radars are and anyone can warn.

Some time ago the police minister was asked publicly if radars were there to slow people down or raise money. He answered to slow people down (of course) and was then cornered into stating that anything that slowed people down in black spots was a good thing and flashing or warning was not illegal.

One Easter a couple of years ago the Police Commissioner actually, on television, asked everyone to flash as they wanted a zero road toll and please everyone slow down.

Of course you live in NSW where possession of a radar detector carries a higher penalty than doing 200km/h in a school zone.

[flappist]

Originally Posted by OLDFORDNUT

the shcool zone is a no brainer for most people, you know when you are close to the start of school day or end without needing to look at a clock ,if you told me that as an excuse after running over a kid in front of my eyes id flog you before cops ever got near ,Pathetic realy,it scares me to think people dont take extra care anywhere near a school, same goes for bus stops (you as a normal human know kids do things without realising the danger so i always expect a kid to walk or run from in front and behind a bus and slow right down just in case.

Really? Wander out to Torbanlea and then to Kent st in Maryborough and see when the zones are active and how hard it is to see the signs.

For those who are a bit far away, Torbanlea is 7:30-9:00 and 2:30-4:00 while Kent St is all day. The Torbanlea one has recently been changed from 6:30 to 7:30 and from 4:30 to 4:00.

You cannot see Torbanlea School or any sign of anything like a town until you are actually in the zone, it is a very popular "killing field".

They may be "no brainers" to locals but on an arterial road driving into the sun with totally non standard times (despite the school zone standardisation claim) tourists and travelers get caught all the time.

[aussie muscle]

Originally Posted by LTDHO

Why I don't understand (well actually I do) is why there are aren't frequent ad's on TV, radio and in magazines showing road rules. actually putting in the faces of the road users. Not just the 'Speed kills' garbage that they do.

They had one on the other day explaining roundabouts

[LTDHO]

Originally Posted by aussie muscle

They had one on the other day explaining roundabouts

Great idea, There should be more!!

[poppa smurf]

Originally Posted by Poorboy_racer

Some time ago a freind of mine got done for being drunk in charge of a wheelchair, and he was not larking around in it, he is disabled.

old mate got done for being drunk in charge of a horse.....he was passed out sozzled in the back of the wagon and the horse was taking him home ( a regular occurrence that everyone knew about).....didnt even have the reins in his hands

steady Eddie ( a well known comedian who happens to have cerebral palsy) once won the local dance competition....

he was only crossing the dance floor on his way to get a drink

[2011G6E]

Originally Posted by burnz

what happens if it was the bus that splashed the mud while picking up it's passengers ?

The universe will implode...