Holden to bring back Sandman in 2015 as a wagon & ute - Page 2

Davehoos · 15-02-2015, 01:15 PM

There are a few vans [White] locally but I did a google for a picture, they refer to specialty body modifications of various suppliers.

YES it all comes own to they stopped making the falcon wagon-and should have kept the LWB as the basic falcon name plate if the real reson was they had too many varients, and if it was cost[unlikely] relocate the assembly line to a developing country that wants it.

been difficult to find a replacement for my BF.

flooded one · 15-02-2015, 04:07 PM

whats next?? Ford to revive the Sundowner by putting a canopy on a Falcon ute??

vztrt · 16-02-2015, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by velvet

Problem is Ford will whore nothing.

Ford were quite happy to whore the GT badge.

Sprintey · 16-02-2015, 10:25 AM

I wondered when someone would mentioned the Sundowner! Good stuff. How about a 300C based 'Drifter', lol.

Problem with the Falcon ute is the split between the tub and the cabin. Has anyone fitted a rear canopy to the tub that has access through to the cab?
Great strength of the Falcon ute is the ability to do a 3 seater with column shift.

desGT · 26-02-2015, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by arronm

...the wagon. That just left a big hole for holden to fill.

Yes, and its why I ended up purchasing a Gen-F SV Tourer (wagon) after BF and FG GTs. Needed extra space for trips including diving - the GT just couldn't fit it all (for both of us).

And yes, the car is (basically) great. As a driver, the GT was rawer and a bit more "fun", probably because it lacked the electronic stuff so now prevalent, but the GEN-F (340) is a great Aussie car - I would/may get another one before they finish.

I had a new XB "Suferoo" 351 panel van back in the 70's. Rear decked out by Ford with (mandatory:-) curtains, side storage, rear seat that came down into a bed. Went/camped around Australia in it.

Fab · 27-03-2015, 01:41 AM

http://www.news.com.au/technology/in...-1227280044631

P6LTD351 · 27-03-2015, 01:49 AM

It's hardly a Sandman. And Ford get paid out for sticker packs.....

1TUFFUTE · 27-03-2015, 02:21 AM

wow. if that was a ford product itd be getting slammed left right and center for not only being a cheap lame sticker pack....but doing almost zero Justice to an Australian cult hero...just to get a few quick sales.

CQB-241 · 27-03-2015, 04:54 AM

Coming soon, the Chrysler 300C "Drifter" wagon and the Ford Falcon "Surferoo" ute.
Not forgetting the Holden Cruise XU1, Ford Fiesta GT500 and the Dodge Journey R/T (OMG, the last one is already here......).

LTDHO · 27-03-2015, 06:38 AM

OK, it's hardly a "sandman' by any standards, however it will boost sales.

Something Ford know nothing about.

Grippy · 27-03-2015, 08:52 AM

Unless it's a 'panel van' it's not a Sandman.

Bearman · 27-03-2015, 08:55 AM

Sticker pack? Yeah, that's just a fact of life these days. You can't re-create the cars, what we have are just subtle reminders of what they may have been.

The Ford ones never bothered me.

For the record I quite like these Sandman things, the wagon in particular looks good.

Grippy · 27-03-2015, 08:57 AM

Doing a proper job of it like Holden did with th VU concept Sandman would have been amazing.

fgpsi · 27-03-2015, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Grippy

Unless it's a 'panel van' it's not a Sandman.

Wasnt the original sandman a ute with a canopy stuck on the bum ? that is what this is isnt it ?

5.8 · 27-03-2015, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by fgpsi

Wasnt the original sandman a ute with a canopy stuck on the bum ? that is what this is isnt it ?

No it was a panelvan but having said that they also came in utes as well.

fgpsi · 27-03-2015, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 5.8

No it was a panelvan but having said that they also came in utes as well.

But wasnt it like the 2002 concept in that was a ute wth a canopy on the back

5.8 · 27-03-2015, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by fgpsi

But wasnt it like the 2002 concept in that was a ute wth a canopy on the back

No they were originally offered in both. There's a picture of both in the link supplied by the op

fgpsi · 27-03-2015, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Raptor

So is that what this was all about?

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A ute crossed with a sports wagon does not equal a panel van, though at least they're making some attempt with the local stuff while its still here, unlike that other brand.

Correct. The original sandman was a ute with a canopy slapped on the back. Are they even offering a canopy with this new sandman ute?

fgpsi · 27-03-2015, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 5.8

No they were originally offered in both. There's a picture of both in the link supplied by the op

So the original sandman was a ute with a canopy on the bum, or just a plain ute? So if they offered this vf sandman with a sandman style canopy it would actually be exactly like what they did with the sandman .

Was it ever offered in a four door wagon

5.8 · 27-03-2015, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by fgpsi

So the original sandman was a ute with a canopy on the bum, or just a plain ute? So if they offered this vf sandman with a sandman style canopy it would actually be exactly like what they did with the sandman .

Was it ever offered in a four door wagon

No, the original sandman was released in the 70's, either a HX or HZ kingswood ute or van. The later model "commodore" sandmans were only utes. Now they are talking about releasing utes and station wagons. Photos of all of them are here.

http://www.news.com.au/technology/in...-1227280044631

XR Davo · 27-03-2015, 10:47 AM

Saw this mentioned on the Today show this morning. Funny thing was they were showing an old film clip of an XB GS panel van during the report. Holden PR wouldn't have been happy. Ha Ha

fgpsi · 27-03-2015, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 5.8

No, the original sandman was released in the 70's, either a HX or HZ kingswood ute or van. The later model "commodore" sandmans were only utes. Now they are talking about releasing utes and station wagons. Photos of all of them are here.

http://www.news.com.au/technology/in...-1227280044631

So the ute is a sandman because they were offered in ute and the wagon is a wagon with some flashy stickers lol

Holden, you're getting really desperate.

smciner1 · 27-03-2015, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Grippy

Unless it's a 'panel van' it's not a Sandman.

Are you ignoring the original HQ - HZ Sandman Ute?

BENT_8 · 27-03-2015, 01:08 PM

Some of you lot are embarrassing.
Deliberately drawing comparisons to the panel van version and its lack of availability in this new rendition to discredit the whole concept.

Where's the problem, the original Sandman ute was just a sticker pack, the new one is the same.
Obviously Holden don't make a panel van any more so the wagon is as close as it gets.
Chances are the Ute will be the desirable option to have as it has the closest ties with the original.

When someone says the phrase 'GT Falcon' what image does it conjure up, without a doubt the most desired feature of all GT's, the shaker.

So it would be fair to say a modern GT without the shaker is just a sticker pack.

Cold Aussie · 27-03-2015, 01:08 PM

Guys I know this is a Ford site, however your missing some history here. Sandman was introduced in the HQ model holden in both ute and panel van through to and including the HZ. Not some canopy stuck to a ute.1974 just before the HJ was realesed.