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Old 02-05-2005, 05:42 PM   #61
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So... if you have a certain XR6T baiting you constantly, and then he starts to tail you... and you slam on those Premium Brakes <tm> to avoid That Cat That's Running Across The Road <tm>, and he rear ends you coz he's tailing you dangerously...

Does your standard insurance/road law stuff come into play here? (IE driver behind is 100% at fault)

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I dont think anyone would be game to find out!
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Old 02-05-2005, 06:00 PM   #62
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So... if you have a certain XR6T baiting you constantly, and then he starts to tail you... and you slam on those Premium Brakes <tm> to avoid That Cat That's Running Across The Road <tm>, and he rear ends you coz he's tailing you dangerously...

Does your standard insurance/road law stuff come into play here? (IE driver behind is 100% at fault)

:the_finge : :hihi: _2:

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there is limits to that driver behind at fault rule....so if he says that there was no cat, it'd be your word against a cops....and as b2tf said, i don't think anyone will be jumping at the chance to test it out...
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Old 04-05-2005, 07:20 PM   #63
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I'd still question this. Do sting operations involve public endangerment? Over a measly traffic fine?

I would believe so, what about the stings for drug dealers??? Go crazy kill, but still just for a few hundred $$$ it seems very stupid
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Old 04-05-2005, 08:01 PM   #64
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I dont see how a sting set up for drug dealers - endangers anyone's lives at the time?
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Old 13-05-2005, 08:56 PM   #65
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We just got harrased by the same car, TRI24, mercury silver XR6T sedan on the corner of wellington and wynnum rd's. cheeky bastard... lucky i saw the computer or whatever it was sitting atop the ICC..
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Old 13-05-2005, 09:19 PM   #66
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i will check my mirrors, not that i give a toss in the mustang, they have to catch me first.
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Old 13-05-2005, 09:24 PM   #67
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i will check my mirrors, not that i give a toss in the mustang, they have to catch me first.
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Old 13-05-2005, 09:56 PM   #68
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My mate got done up the Sunshine coast by a cop in a Phantom Ute, he rang and told me straight away knowing Im always udriving up that way and not always law abiding!
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I recently saw a local marked BA HWP doing maybe 120+ in an 80 (only cops can accurately measure speed with the naked eye) with no lights, sirens whatever, so I rang the local area commander and dobbed the ***** in. If that was anyone else it would have been licence gone, a huge fine and the "no safe speeding", crazy hoodlum spiel from the cops. Nothing much happened but I felt better venting my annoyance that they can / do get away with it. After investigating, the reply was: There was an urgent job the officer was responding to, and the car had reported earlier that the sirens and lights wern't operational... yeah right!
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Old 16-05-2005, 08:54 PM   #70
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After investigating, the reply was: There was an urgent job the officer was responding to, and the car had reported earlier that the sirens and lights wern't operational... yeah right!
In that case it shouldnt have been on the road. The moment anything goes wrong with those cars they should be taken off the road and fixed, at least if someone is doing their job properly they should be anyway.

But we all know thats just a half assed excuse they gave you.
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Old 16-05-2005, 09:52 PM   #71
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Out my way we have a constable named "Cam Hunt".. and thats no joke. This guy haunts one of my mates with a ED.

Mate was driving on a wide single lane road, car infront turns left. So he goes around the car half on the wrong side of the road. Cop pulls him over and fines him for not indicating on the way out, not indicating on the way back in AND for allegdedly speeding.

This same cop has fined this same guy about 5 times, once for no seatbelt within 10 seconds of a car park.. he's got 1 point left now.. good ol Cam Hunt has almost won..
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Old 16-05-2005, 11:04 PM   #72
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Tell your mate to get a digital voice recorder, and record Cam when he gets pulled up. It is not illegal to record a convrsation now, as long as one party in the conversation knows the conversation is being recorded.
Here is the documentation to support this.
Invasion of Privacy Act 1971


43 Prohibition on use of listening devices

(1) A person is guilty of an offence against this Act if the person uses a
listening device to overhear, record, monitor or listen to a private
conversation and is liable on conviction on indictment to a maximum
penalty of 40 penalty units or imprisonment for 2 years.

(2) Subsection (1) does not apply—
(a) where the person using the listening device is a party to the
private conversation;
(b) to the unintentional hearing of a private conversation by means of
a telephone;
(c) to or in relation to the use of any listening device by—
(i) an officer employed in the service of the Commonwealth in
relation to customs authorised by a warrant under the hand
of the Comptroller-General of Customs under the Customs
Act 1901 (Cwlth) to use a listening device in the
performance of the officer’s duty;
(ii) a person employed in connection with the security of the
Commonwealth when acting in the performance of the
person’s duty under an Act passed by the Parliament of the
Commonwealth relating to the security of the
Commonwealth;
(d) to or in relation to the use of a listening device by a police officer
or another person under a provision of an Act authorising the use
of a listening device.

(3) A person referred to in subsection (2)(c) who uses a listening device
to overhear, record, monitor or listen to any private conversation to which
the person is not a party shall not communicate or publish the substance or
meaning of that private conversation otherwise than in the performance of
the person’s duty.

(4) The court by which a person is convicted of an offence under this
section may, by its conviction, order that any listening device used in the
commission of the offence and described in the order shall be forfeited to
Her Majesty and delivered up, within such period as may be specified in
the order, by the person who has possession of the listening device to a
person specified in the order.

(5) If an order is made under subsection (4), the person who has
possession of the listening device must deliver up the listening device
under the order.
Maximum penalty—20 penalty units.

(6) If a person contravenes subsection (5), whether or not a proceeding
for the offence has started, a police officer may seize the listening device
and deliver it up under the order.
44 Prohibition on communication or publication of private
conversations unlawfully listened to

(1) A person is guilty of an offence against this Act if the person
communicates or publishes to any other person a private conversation, or a
report of, or of the substance, meaning or purport of, a private
conversation, that has come to his or her knowledge as a result, direct or
indirect, of the use of a listening device used in contravention of section 43
and is liable on conviction on indictment to a maximum penalty of
40 penalty units or imprisonment for 2 years.

(2) Subsection (1) does not apply—
(a) where the communication or publication of the private
conversation is made—
(i) to a party to the conversation or with the consent, express or
implied, of such a party; or
(ii) in the course of proceedings for an offence against this Act
constituted by a contravention of, or a failure to comply
with any provision of this part; or
(b) to prevent a person who has obtained knowledge of a private
conversation otherwise than in a manner referred to in that
subsection from communicating or publishing to another person
the knowledge so obtained by the person, notwithstanding that
the person also obtained knowledge of the conversation in such a
manner.

45 Prohibition on communication or publication of private
conversations by parties thereto
(1) A person who, having been a party to a private conversation and
having used a listening device to overhear, record, monitor or listen to that
conversation, subsequently communicates or publishes to any other person
any record of the conversation made, directly or indirectly, by the use of
the listening device or any statement prepared from such a record is guilty
of an offence against this Act and is liable on conviction on indictment to a
maximum penalty of 40 penalty units or imprisonment for 2 years.

(2) Subsection (1) does not apply where the communication or
publication—
(a) is made to another party to the private conversation or with the
consent, express or implied, of all other parties to the private
conversation, being parties referred to in section 42(2)(a); or
(b) is made in the course of legal proceedings; or
(c) is not more than is reasonably necessary—
(i) in the public interest; or
(ii) in the performance of a duty of the person making the
communication or publication; or
(iii) for the protection of the lawful interests of that person; or
(d) is made to a person who has, or is believed, on reasonable
grounds, by the person making the communication or publication
to have, such an interest in the private conversation as to make
the communication or publication reasonable under the
circumstances in which it is made; or
(e) is made by a person who used the listening device to overhear,
record, monitor, or listen to the private conversation under
section 43(2)(c) or (d).

(3) In subsection (2)—
“legal proceedings” includes—
(a) proceedings (whether civil or criminal) in or before any court;
and
(b) proceedings before justices; and
(c) proceedings before any court, tribunal or person (including any
inquiry, examination or arbitration) in which evidence is or may
be given; and
(d) any part of legal proceedings.

46 Inadmissibility of evidence of private conversations when
unlawfully obtained

(1) Where a private conversation has come to the knowledge of a person
as a result, direct or indirect, of the use of a listening device used in
contravention of section 43, evidence of that conversation may not be
given by that person in any civil or criminal proceedings.

(2) Subsection (1) does not render inadmissible—
(a) evidence of a private conversation that has, in the manner
referred to in that subsection, come to the knowledge of the
person called to give the evidence, if a party to the conversation
consents to that person giving the evidence; or
(b) evidence of a private conversation that has, otherwise than in the
manner referred to in that subsection, come to the knowledge of
the person called to give the evidence, notwithstanding that the
person also obtained knowledge of the conversation in such a
manner; or
(c) in any proceedings for an offence against this Act constituted by
a contravention of, or a failure to comply with, any provision of
this part, evidence of a private conversation that has in the
manner referred to in that subsection come to the knowledge of
the person called to give the evidence.

(3) The court before which any proceedings referred to in
subsection (2)(c) are brought may, at any stage of the proceedings and
from time to time, make an order forbidding publication of any evidence,
or of any report of, or report of the substance meaning or purport of, any
evidence referred to in that subsection.
(4) Any person who contravenes an order made under subsection (3) is
guilty of an offence against this Act.
Maximum penalty—10 penalty units.
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Old 16-05-2005, 11:33 PM   #73
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Firstly, you are responsible for driving your own vehicle, regardless of what the person beside you is doing, but it does sound like revenue raising to me. It's like a police officer ****ing someone off in civilian clothes to see if assault will take place- is `excessive acceleration' a crime, anyway?

btw guys, UHF CB channel 40 is your friend
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Old 17-05-2005, 05:16 PM   #74
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Excessive acelleration here in QLD is more commonly called "excessive noise"
Just another way to guarantee a fine.
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