Tailgating truckies.

[mif73]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

he is just another person who is ignorant of the industry, 85% of all freight moved in moved within the State (intra-State), only 15% of all freight moved goes over inter-State borders, of those drivers less than 1% use stay awake drugs. In fact VicPol stats prove that there are more car drivers (by per-capita) using drugs and driving than truck drivers, but hey, lets not let the truth get in the way of a good story.

He is probably the same person to ring up and whinge when something is not delivered to his door on time (D.I.F.O.T.)

Tell me Trev when i said anything about truckies using drugs?
I thought this post was about tailgating and how its wrong and illegal to do it full stop?

Unless you are refering to the remark I made about being alert?

In that case it was if I ( as in ME) took speed and heaps of coffee and had lots of rubber on the ground then by your analogy it would be ok to stick close to another vehicle coz then the reactions would be quicker.
(yes i have tried speed once and i was awake for way too long and sharp as a tack, but never again).

I apologize if anyone took that as a generalisation that I reckon that all truckies are druggies, far from it, I reckon that the figures you produced are most probably correct. Probably a poor choice of word to use in context of the sensitivities.

So lets get back to the subject matter:

Considerate and non threatening driving =good.
Tailgating (by anyone) =bad

[Road Games]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

he is just another person who is ignorant of the industry, 85% of all freight moved in moved within the State (intra-State), only 15% of all freight moved goes over inter-State borders, of those drivers less than 1% use stay awake drugs. In fact VicPol stats prove that there are more car drivers (by per-capita) using drugs and driving than truck drivers, but hey, lets not let the truth get in the way of a good story.

He is probably the same person to ring up and whinge when something is not delivered to his door on time (D.I.F.O.T.)

I reckon you blokes should lead by example and stop being so one eyed in your responses !!

But then again it may be a slow news day ...

[mif73]

Originally Posted by 9sec Menace

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I reckon you blokes should lead by example and stop being so one eyed in your responses !!

But then again it may be a slow news day ...

Yeah I think Teak81, the original poster (and a truckie) is the only balanced prof driver on here.

Would love more balanced discussion, but Im now regretting ever mentioning what I have done (call the cops) when someone drives aggressively and menacing at everyone (IN ANY TYPE OF VEHICLE!!!).

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by mif73

Tell me Trev when i said anything about truckies using drugs?

probably the inference is here

Originally Posted by mif73

I should take some speed, drinks heaps of strong coffee and take off in a porsche gt3 or the like and sit on someones bum coz its ok and the cops wont mind a bit

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by mif73

but Im now regretting ever mentioning what I have done (call the cops) when someone drives aggressively and menacing at everyone (IN ANY TYPE OF VEHICLE!!!).

if you are threatened then by all means ring 000, I have in the past for a range of different things I see on the road

and I should say that you been the master of taking what I say out of context

[mif73]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

probably the inference is here

I already explained that misunderstanding above in a previous post so please disregard it as a hostility.

[mif73]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

if you are threatened then by all means ring 000, I have in the past for a range of different things I see on the road

and I should say that you been the master of taking what I say out of context

Thats probably not helped by the written word as things can get misconstrued easily, the tone can be read incorrectly and we dont want to have to keep typing smiley faces every sentence do we?

It would not help the cause being on a medium where misconstrued sentences can be stewed over and tempers raised while waiting some time for a reply.

So this is me saying no hard feelings Trevor. Ok?

[Trevor 57]

No worries, all good

[mif73]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

No worries, all good

sweet.

[blackf6]

Originally Posted by mif73

Yeah I think Teak81, the original poster (and a truckie) is the only balanced prof driver on here.

Would love more balanced discussion, but Im now regretting ever mentioning what I have done (call the cops) when someone drives aggressively and menacing at everyone (IN ANY TYPE OF VEHICLE!!!).

Meh truckies call up the cops on the two way all the time. Mostly when we get overtaken on double white lines around blind corners. There will never be a balanced discussion between motorists and truckies. There is just too many cut off maneuvers, pull out infront, and racing to get in front of fully laden trucks to allow that.

[joolz]

Observerd an incident this arvo entering the Burnley tunnel from Kings way in Melbourne. A silver VE Commodore in the left lane cut into a gap in front of a truck (semi) which the traffic up ahead was already braking. The truck driver didnt expect this and yeah he braked alot harder than he had to. Some CAR drivers have no idea then complain about trucks up their rear!

[trentski]

see it all the time joolz, some times I'm surprised the truck even knew they were there.

on another note it took me an hour to drive 30kms home yesterday and I let two trucks in front of me, flashing my lights to let them know they could merge and neither thanked me, so that's it for letting trucks in, they must all be like that......

[zilo]

Originally Posted by joolz

Observerd an incident this arvo entering the Burnley tunnel from Kings way in Melbourne. A silver VE Commodore in the left lane cut into a gap in front of a truck (semi) which the traffic up ahead was already braking. The truck driver didnt expect this and yeah he braked a lot harder than he had to. Some CAR drivers have no idea then complain about trucks up their rear!

Betcha the truck in question was in the far right hand lane?

Betcha there were trucks in all three lanes laboring below the speed limit up the hill and slowing traffic flow?

Give me the US road model where trucks have to keep in the slow lanes at all times.

[ILLaViTaR]

Shame about them losing the ability to bully huggers out of the right lane. That's the only bad thing to come from this.

This law will stop the meth heads coming up my **** at 110 in a hundred zone (I thought they were speedlimited to 100kmph anyway...) and swerving their carriage into my lane as I move left to let the ahole past once I've got the chance. Three words, self entitled scum. I used to lock up in front of these types whilst on my P's, I ******* hated them with a passion, King Yobbo endangering everyone with no regard seeing the road as his own. I wanted to spook them from doing it anyone ever again. made it my cause thinking I'd help the world or something. I didn't know about the momentum factor back then, now I do, but they always did manage to brake just as suddenly as my car and it did get them off my **** so naturally it became my response to these situations.

2 second rule regardless they deserve no sympathy. They should factor their momentum into their distance that's the law. Someone jumps in front of them too bad slow down.

I'm sure their braking power is factored into their weight (the same ratio as my vehicle it would seem) I doubt they have 15inch rotors with single caliper pistons.. I remember one ****** in particular ACCELERATED up to my **** within meters in full momentum as I locked up on him and he still managed to slow down more suddenly than me, the truck was huge as well. So I don't entirely buy the momentum scare mongering thing really. But these days I just let the ****heads past and hope they don't collect me when I'm in the lane next to them. Let them smoke their crack and one day they'll inevitably corner too fast and slide over an embankment and sort themselves out. The camera's will stop them putting anyone else onto embankments before they eventually do themselves so they're the best solution really. Been a long time coming. They deserve the big brother.

[Road Games]

Indeed ...

[zilo]

Phew....that's certainly venting...

[Adamz Ghia]

Originally Posted by zilo

Betcha the truck in question was in the far right hand lane?

Betcha there were trucks in all three lanes laboring below the speed limit up the hill and slowing traffic flow?

Give me the US road model where trucks have to keep in the slow lanes at all times.

So what if he was. Cutting in front of a truck is a stupid thing to do no matter where the truck is on the road. That attitude isn't gunna get anyone very far after a semi has gone over the top of them.

I drive 50,000 odd Km a year and there are plenty of idiot truck drivers out there, but I reckon easily there are a third more car drivers who have no idea how to share the road with them...

[93EB_SXR6]

Ok mif73, I can now say being tailgated by a semi is indeed a horrible experience.
Wheres a bazooka when you need it..?

[Cuyper]

That's great, if you've ever been behind a truck when he's made an emergency stop you'll know that you can make yourself a picnic and enjoy the smoke and rubber show while you casually wait for him to slide to a stop... The things just don't stop, it makes you really stress when one is right up your **** on a dodgy country highway in the middle of the night when anything could happen at any time. It really compromises your options if you have to stop in a hurry.

I've been pushed off the road a few times in my life by rouge truckies so I'm not a fan of them in general although I do realise the few times I have had problems are outweighed thousands to one by the trucks that haven't run me off the road . Still it's the few maniacs that you remember the most. Some years ago in my youth one of them ****ed me off by squeezing me into the bush so much I had a quite bad case of road rage and followed him for about 100km in a direction I wasn't even originally going too, continuously passing him and slowing down in front of him, pulling off the road and repeating..... . That wasn't cool on my behalf but I was very angry about it. Just lately I've seen a few tare sitting on 115km/h on a flat straights continuously too, what's up with that, no one watching the speed limiters any more?.

[OwnTheRoad]

Anyone familiar with the HWY in front of Coffs Harbours Big Banana ? I had a B double so close to me through the bends last night that I couldn't see his headlights , he then attempted to pass another vehicle on the left as we exited the bends . Both myself and the little car that he tried to pass we're both 5 over just trying to keep out of his way . A few seconds later a learner doing 10 under flashed their high beams at me for passing first at a merge where I didn't speed to beat them to the merge from the left , cheeky little upstart lol

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by ILLaViTaR

Shame about them losing the ability to bully huggers out of the right lane. That's the only bad thing to come from this.

This law will stop the meth heads coming up my **** at 110 in a hundred zone (I thought they were speedlimited to 100kmph anyway...) and swerving their carriage into my lane as I move left to let the ahole past once I've got the chance. Three words, self entitled scum. I used to lock up in front of these types whilst on my P's, I ******* hated them with a passion, King Yobbo endangering everyone with no regard seeing the road as his own. I wanted to spook them from doing it anyone ever again. made it my cause thinking I'd help the world or something. I didn't know about the momentum factor back then, now I do, but they always did manage to brake just as suddenly as my car and it did get them off my **** so naturally it became my response to these situations.

2 second rule regardless they deserve no sympathy. They should factor their momentum into their distance that's the law. Someone jumps in front of them too bad slow down.

I'm sure their braking power is factored into their weight (the same ratio as my vehicle it would seem) I doubt they have 15inch rotors with single caliper pistons.. I remember one ****** in particular ACCELERATED up to my **** within meters in full momentum as I locked up on him and he still managed to slow down more suddenly than me, the truck was huge as well. So I don't entirely buy the momentum scare mongering thing really. But these days I just let the ****heads past and hope they don't collect me when I'm in the lane next to them. Let them smoke their crack and one day they'll inevitably corner too fast and slide over an embankment and sort themselves out. The camera's will stop them putting anyone else onto embankments before they eventually do themselves so they're the best solution really. Been a long time coming. They deserve the big brother.

that **** is not even worthy of a response, but I can't help myself and this ****en idiot calls truck drivers ****en idiots yet he deliberately stands on the brakes in front of a truck, think I have heard everything now

it would be great to be 'dead' right

over and out

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by FTEMEL

Anyone familiar with the HWY in front of Coffs Harbours Big Banana ? I had a B double so close to me through the bends last night that I couldn't see his headlights , he then attempted to pass another vehicle on the left as we exited the bends . Both myself and the little car that he tried to pass we're both 5 over just trying to keep out of his way . A few seconds later a learner doing 10 under flashed their high beams at me for passing first at a merge where I didn't speed to beat them to the merge from the left , cheeky little upstart lol

did you pick up your ever trusty mobile phone and ring 000? No, I bet not

[GTMOND]

You guys in cars sit back the legal distance without tailgating and try to overtake someone doing 90-95 Kim/h and not exceed 100 Kim/h whilst doing it, and be at least 40m past the vehicle in front off you before you cross back over. Without doubt there are some rouge truckies but it ****** me off people who have no idea painting every one with the same brush.

[superyob]

There are idiots in cars, there are idiots in trucks... Unfortunately one can inflict far more damage than the other...

[irish2]

I do over 40,000km a year on roads mostly around SE QLD and Northern NSW. Not once in that time have I witnessed a semi over 110km/h. Most of the time they are about 95km/h. Some of you need your speedo's checked. Mostly I sit on a faster speed than trucks and stay alert. For all those whinging about speeding fines, I haven't had one in over 5 years. I overtake above the limit, and will continue to do so.

Whilst it is annoying having trucks in the right hand lane on multi lane roads, it is often because so many motorist are massively under the limit, and then attempt to speed up once they realise they are being overtaken up a hill by a fully laden truck. Most of the people on highways these days sit on 80-90km/h in 110km/h zones, and then get angry if you tailgate them in the right hand lanes.

[superyob]

Originally Posted by irish2

I do over 40,000km a year on roads mostly around SE QLD and Northern NSW. Not once in that time have I witnessed a semi over 110km/h. Most of the time they are about 95km/h. Some of you need your speedo's checked. Mostly I sit on a faster speed than trucks and stay alert. For all those whinging about speeding fines, I haven't had one in over 5 years. I overtake above the limit, and will continue to do so.

Whilst it is annoying having trucks in the right hand lane on multi lane roads, it is often because so many motorist are massively under the limit, and then attempt to speed up once they realise they are being overtaken up a hill by a fully laden truck. Most of the people on highways these days sit on 80-90km/h in 110km/h zones, and then get angry if you tailgate them in the right hand lanes.

Are you saying that tailgating is acceptable if you deem the motorist in front of you to be in the wrong?

A fully laden semi has got no hope of overtaking anything much when going up a hill. The motorists you speak of must be travelling at exceedingly low speed...

[imugli]

My cousin is a truckie and regularly posts footage from his dashcam on his Facebook account. Idiots go both ways.

[blackf6]

It ***** me to tears the amount of people that can't or will not sit at the posted speed limit so I can get on with my job. Now with the camera I have no choice but to dawdle along with them, leaving a long line of disgruntled drivers behind me.

[Tonz]

jeez this is getting pretty heated.. its christmas guys .spread the love Oh FFS why dont I just shud up

[OwnTheRoad]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

did you pick up your ever trusty mobile phone and ring 000? No, I bet not

You are correct , I'm driving family tired and sleepy its 10 pm . Local cops have plenty to do with out me being a pia .