Anyone got a standard converter???

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does anyone have a standard torque converter they want to sell/get rid of.
im after one to try see how my car drives without the stally.
oh yeah its for a v8.

also does anyone have superlow pedders springs in there car?
how does it ride and do you have any pic's of it.
cheers josh.

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How high is the stall in yours?

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3000-3500rpm its sposed to be a 3000rpm stall but stalls to 3500rpm.
cheers josh.

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Yeah i've got 2 sitting here.

1 has got a broken oil pump drive fin on it, so needs repair

and no 2 was in a auto the packed it in, so would need cleaning.

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ok then i need some answers as im not an auto person and personallly i wish my car was manual.
last night took the car out for a bit of a cruise and the thing wont stall above 1600rpm which is im guessing what a standard stall would be.
now it used to stall up to like 3500rpm but just brake traction 1/2 throttle at about 2300rpm well the thing just feels like poo off the line with the stall speed like this so i dont want to put a standard stall back in it i wanna get my stally back to what it used to be?
cheers josh.

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I'm not quite following. Have you now put a standard converter back in and you're not happy with it, or has your 3500 stally just randomly stopped stalling up so high?

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yeah stally has just randomly stopped stalling could this be low oil level i did a service not that long ago and started the car and everything and filled up but i thought maybe it has dropped.
or could it be that the converter has killed itself?
sorry i dont no much about these things and what goes wrong with them.
cheers josh.

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So you purchased the stall and had it installed or did you buy the car with it in?

Just cause if you didn't put it in who knows whats in it then, now with my turbo'd ea i had only a standard converter but one of them for some reason went from stalling to 2400 to 1600 by itself and absolutely killed my off the line, it all over a sudden stopped one day and just wouldn't stall over 1600.

Older style converters like in c4-c10 etc, when damaged stall higher and higher as the fin's bend, seems the btr's lower there stall for some reason.

I think your just gonna need to pull it out and send it to someone.

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bought the car with it in.
it did it once before but came good again so i didnt think anything of it last time it came good after a bit of a thrashing but didnt last night at all.
foot flat it just sits at 1600rpm and wont even turn the tyres then let go of the brake and it just takes off like its in limp home mode almost then just starts pulling so im guessing thats cause of the cam and intake maybe?
cheers josh.

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Well if the stall's cactus and not stalling it aint gonna have no decent take off,

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yeah i no are they repairable and will it just die on me or can i still drive it til i can afford a new one?
cheers josh.

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you should be able to still drive it around fine until you can afford to get it repair, and yes they are repairable, just don't go holding it down trying to get it to stall or anything, cause if you need the car and it goes completely then it isn't going to be driving anywhere.

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ahh yep not a problem i can afford to get it reapaired now probably how much roughly do u think it will cost and what do u thinks wrong with it.
cheers josh.

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a normal touque converter clean and service is $100, it sounds like the stator clutch has seized in it, in which case being that your stall is already hi stalled and so on, i wouldn't expect it to cost a lot but who knows it may be stuffed and require replacing,

this is why it can good and then not, but basically the converter won't be working properly at all as it is responsible for the internal control over the converter, changing oil flow direction on take off, and can cause it to run hotter and so on, so be careful with driving it around, as i said no stalling it up and drive it nice.

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oh that $100 is you taking the converter in yourself, if you have to pay someone to remove/reinstall it, then it'll probably be an extra $300 i'd say.

I personally wouldn't pull out it to do it unless i had enough money to purchase a new one, if worst case senario came thru.

With the stator its a moving part and they seize cause the area around it has worn wrong or is damaged, so as i said who knows, it could clean up with a hone or something, i have no idea really im no touque converter specialists, i just no a little about their operation as we make some parts for them.

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ahh yeah i think ill just save for a new one and get a 2800rpm instead of the one in it i was a bit iffy about it anyway.
anyone know how much a new stally is and wheres the best place to get them.
cheers josh.

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Not sure i dealt with TCT last time, good stall, can't comment on price cause it was a 4500 for c10 not a btr which are more expensive.

My advice to you is to not go for the cheaper option, make sure its furnace brazed, has roller bearings installed etc. etc do some reasearch first at different places, cause their is a fair bit that is changeable to improve strenght and reliability.

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ahh yeah will do ill get a good one and hope that i wont have any problems.
cheers josh.

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wow a 2200rpm hi stall, funny cause standard is 2200-2400.

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are u sure mate i thought standard was max 1800rpm?
thats with all the cars ive had and all the carsd at work anyway.
cheers josh.

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yes im sure, mine stalls to 2500, flares to nearly 3000 when i stomp it at the lights, if you have more touque then it will stall higher.V8's had higher stall than the 6's factory, 6 is 2000-2200 and v8's 2200-2400.Not all of them will be correct, there is variations in production and so on, also apparently the s5 solonoid can vary the stall rate a little too, according to my ford book, haven't tried anything with it myself.

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Sorry i just checked tech specs, 93le (6cyl) is 2000-2200rpm, and 97le (v8) is 2000-2400

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ahh yep so mine is stalling below what even the factory ones stall at.
ahh well how much for one of those standard stalls mate i might grab one til i can afford a new high stall.
cheers josh.

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I wouldn't necessarilly go and buy a new hi stall, take yours in first, i mean since yours is already a hi stall, it may have been machine for roller bearings etc, which could be a lot cheaper to do yours.

As for one of the converters, i'll have to get back to, have to find them first, since moving to romsey 3months ago i can't seem to find half the things i had.

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ah ok then i might pull it out next weekend and get it checked.
but i need my car as i drive it evryday so would like a converter to put back in it.
cheers josh.

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well rang a few places today and they think it cant be the converter as they either stall or dont stall at all.
so im going to take it to a few places and get some thoughts.
cheers josh.

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How'd you go with it?

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Sorry i haven't got back to you on the standard converter yet, just haven't had time to go thru the shed and dig it out yet, its definetly their, i purchased it brand new with an auto from ford, I broke the sprag clutch in the auto so thats why it all came out, probably only did 30,000km's with it.

Being just the sprag that broke the converter wouldn't need cleaning, but i can't remember if that one destroyed clutch's or not, so i wanna go thru the box and check it first for you. Its all sitting in bits in a box with the plan of rebuilding it for a spare, but probably won't get around to doing until i need it. But that being the case, for the converter i would have to get $100 for it, otherwise i may as well keep it as spare.

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what else could it but that is causing this do u think i cant imagine it being anything else but the converter?
cheers josh.