Theft of engines from GMH plant: 7 to stand trial.

**supershifty** · 13-06-2013, 12:33 PM

I'd forgotten about this:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-1...-theft/4750890

**DJM83** · 13-06-2013, 01:32 PM

Still amazed at how this went on. Kinda makes me laugh, as bad as it is though.

Thornie · 13-06-2013, 02:01 PM

140 engines over 2 years, how it took so long to notice then going missing, i'll be damned.

KIWI-1 · 13-06-2013, 02:26 PM

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140 engines over 2 years, how it took so long to notice then going missing, i'll be damned.

It was ONLY $2million - barely noticeable when you're making a $152.8million loss after Government handouts.

strobe · 13-06-2013, 02:37 PM

Think I smoked one of these holdens at the lights this morning.

**Tucool** · 13-06-2013, 02:51 PM

Geez,
That's better than one a week,surely someone should have notice

blueoval · 13-06-2013, 02:55 PM

Only in Elizabeth.....

Tonz · 13-06-2013, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by blueoval

Only in Elizabeth.....

OOOhh you naughty one! But there is a certain cliental.

BENT_8 · 13-06-2013, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KIWI-1

It was ONLY $2million - barely noticeable when you're making a $152.8million loss after Government handouts.

Nah, not quite, its just that they sold sooooo many of them V8's, no one could keep track of them all...

KIWI-1 · 13-06-2013, 05:13 PM

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Nah, not quite, its just that they sold sooooo many of them V8's, no one could keep track of them all...

Holden had to double their sales 'cos Ford weren't selling any...

pottery beige · 13-06-2013, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by blueoval

Only in Elizabeth.....

bro.. true elizzabeffs can barely get of the couch for a centerlink appointment.. let alone pull something like this off..

KIWI-1 · 13-06-2013, 05:26 PM

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bro.. true elizzabeffs can barely get of the couch for a centerlink appointment.. let alone pull something like this off..

There is always home delivery with their Pizza like this dude...
http://www.thecourier.com.au/story/5...zza-drug-bust/

BENT_8 · 13-06-2013, 05:32 PM

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bro.. true elizzabeffs can barely get of the couch for a centerlink appointment.. let alone pull something like this off..

HOW DARE YOU!!!

The term is 'Lizzabefian', not 'elizzabeffs'.

I know, I am one, born and bread 400m from the front door of GMH...which probably explains a fair bit now I think about it, lol.

jpd80 · 13-06-2013, 05:55 PM

I wonder how many were repaired under warranty for piston slap and oil usage....

If GM never noticed them gone, maybe they never noticed them back in other cars either....

cool65 · 13-06-2013, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by blueoval

Only in Elizabeth.....

No, was widespread through Holden sites.
Complete cars driven through holes in fence cut at Fisherman's Bend & the truckies delivering cars out of Dandenong in the old days used to smuggle gearboxes in their rope/chain lockers on the car trailers. Been going on for years & just took the Elizabetheans a while to join the party.

pottery beige · 13-06-2013, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

HOW DARE YOU!!!

The term is 'Lizzabefian', not 'elizzabeffs'.

I know, I am one, born and bread 400m from the front door of GMH...which probably explains a fair bit now I think about it, lol.

im living the dream Salisbury style.. primo scotch fillets washed down with a tip top cask red......

neptune blue · 13-06-2013, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cool65

No, was widespread through Holden sites.
Complete cars driven through holes in fence cut at Fisherman's Bend & the truckies delivering cars out of Dandenong in the old days used to smuggle gearboxes in their rope/chain lockers on the car trailers. Been going on for years & just took the Elizabetheans a while to join the party.

Yes this is right and theft is not as uncommon as you may think
I was involved with Holden at Fishermans bend from 2000 to 2004 and during this time I saw and was told about a number of thefts

Just before 5.0 litre was replaced with the LS1 they had 6 engines shiped from the states for testing
Within 24 hours of their arrival 3 of the engines had the heads stolen
The HR manager told me a story of how a manager was stealing heads from the old 5.0 engine

If you park your car in the plant the boot is checked by security on the way out
This guy had a large 4 wheel drive and he welded brackets in the engine bay and smuggled 4 heads out of the plant at a time

As the boot is the only compartment checked he would simply dive though without a worry until he was dobbed in and caught by security at the guard house

They recon he was doing it for years

Even corruption at the highest levels

The director of engine operations was dismissed as he was getting a number of kick backs from the sale of aluminium swarf

I mean how greedy can you get
This guy woud have been earning a bomb but for some its never enough

KIWI-1 · 13-06-2013, 07:21 PM

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I mean how greedy can you get

621 tyres in one hit! Todd Motors (Hillman, Chrysler, Mitsubishi) in NZ - it was the security guards. Not to mention the parts and panels they were getting for the son's body shop.

neptune blue · 13-06-2013, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KIWI-1

621 tyres in one hit! Todd Motors (Hillman, Chrysler, Mitsubishi) in NZ - it was the security guards. Not to mention the parts and panels they were getting for the son's body shop.

Ha
Same thing happened at Toyota with the security guards about 10 years ago but they got caught fairy early on in the piece

pottery beige · 13-06-2013, 07:59 PM

heap of scrap went missing from some place i worked.. hell of a xmas **** up..

may not be a true story

Danny · 13-06-2013, 08:44 PM

Reminds me of Johnny Cash's Caddillac song "one piece at a time, didn't cost a dime"

malazn mafia · 13-06-2013, 08:53 PM

Any thefts of this scale at Ford? I would like to believe that the difference is that Falcons and Teritories are built with pride, unlike the cars from Team Red.

79FordEsky · 13-06-2013, 10:18 PM

If they have engine numbers that were taken, will holden request the engine back?

**MercurySilver** · 13-06-2013, 10:37 PM

I know a pallet of grange went missing from penfolds years ago.
Big bosses apparently....pages ripped out of ledgers gone missing at security etc.
It happens everywhere.

XR Martin · 13-06-2013, 10:53 PM

I would argue that the real cost of the items arnt anywhere near 2 million.
140 engines and 175 gearboxes, thats just under $6500 for each item...

It wouldnt have cost Holden anywhere near that.

BENT_8 · 14-06-2013, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Reminds me of Johnny Cash's Caddillac song "one piece at a time, didn't cost a dime"

You would be surprised what has walked out of that place over the years.
Having spent many a night charging on with people who worked there back in the 80's and 90's and listening to the stories it was a free for all.
If you had the right connections it wasn't uncommon for executives to leave with lots of goodies thrown in.

A good mate of mine convinced the gate staff to let him out with a brand new white VP berlina in 91 before they were released to the public.

They would to let staff take cars home for evaluation, a maximum of 100k's was allowed and no passengers.
He missed his spot on the list as he was off sick, so he basically drove straight out the gate with one the next night.
He picked me up and we went cruising until we got pinched by a local sergeant and the **** hit the fan.
They agreed to withdraw charges if he resigned which he did.

KIWI-1 · 14-06-2013, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by malazn mafia

Any thefts of this scale at Ford? I would like to believe that the difference is that Falcons and Teritories are built with pride, unlike the cars from Team Red.

Yep, Mid-eighties when engines from Geelong were trucked to Campbellfield without engine numbers many went missing. Ford switched to stamping the engine number at Geelong before they were loaded on the truck.

eb2fairmont · 14-06-2013, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by pottery beige

im living the dream Salisbury style.. primo scotch fillets washed down with a tip top cask red......

Assuming you don't need the box mate, and just hold ya head back and open the valve?

If so can I have the box, need to bend up a new set of spats for my VN.

Sick brus!

pottery beige · 14-06-2013, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by eb2fairmont

Assuming you don't need the box mate, and just hold ya head back and open the valve?

If so can I have the box, need to bend up a new set of spats for my VN.

Sick brus!

deal.. I blow the goon bag up for a pillow when I pass out...

Bossxr8 · 14-06-2013, 08:32 PM

I know of one guy that used to make deliveries from the engine plant to the old PD centre. He would load the company car up with parts, take a small detour to his house and unload it and then complete the journey.

Many a Tickford 5.0 Windsor part was pilfered. But I don't know how he got past the security gate boot check. He must have stashed the parts somewhere.