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06-11-2013, 09:18 PM | #1 | ||
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Grim...
http://m.carsguide.com.au/news-and-r...mment_20131106 (sorry for not posting full article- on my phone) |
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06-11-2013, 09:27 PM | #3 | ||
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Dowling mustn't have got a new VF SS ute for free...
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06-11-2013, 09:32 PM | #4 | ||
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Grim indeed, funny part of that article is he mentions the commodore is making a profit, ....... if it is indeed making a profit, then surely holden doesn't need 200 million in tax payer donations a year or what ever the amount is to keep making them?
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06-11-2013, 09:35 PM | #5 | ||
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Well if he is summarising an actual report and paraphrasing it.............
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06-11-2013, 09:36 PM | #6 | |||
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More info here - eye-opening stuff:
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06-11-2013, 09:48 PM | #7 | ||
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Unless you've been living on a desert island for the last 20 years, none of this comes as a shock.
The problem with Holden is that it has the facade of success with new car and exports, anyone who thinks that is any reflection of a company's true health is kidding themselves. Times are tough everywhere, put a foot wrong and it doesn't take much to go under... I do feel for Holden fans because I know that many will be in denial for a long time until the anger sets in. You think Ford fans are bitter, wait till you see the backlash from a bigger more motivated crowd.. |
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07-11-2013, 12:44 AM | #9 | ||
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Abbot has stopped the electric railways in Adelaide is holding the tonsley park plans to ransom no way will he stump up the cash for Holden till marshal and the liberals are in power as he's a scumbag
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07-11-2013, 01:17 AM | #10 | ||
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No doubt commadore and profit are being used to shed a tiny amount of good light. Also no doubt that if that's how they think you work out profit...by ignoring other local models and future costs...then they really are kidding themselves!
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07-11-2013, 06:45 AM | #11 | ||
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Considering he was complicit ( admitedly in a small way , but none the lss complicit ) in bringing about the end of manufacturing in Australia it is rich coming from him .
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07-11-2013, 09:07 AM | #12 | ||
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Unfortunately Mr Dowling is just like all the others who are in a rush to nail the coffin shut on Australian manufacturing, big on toxic keystrokes but short on meaningful action. Our pioneers of industry must be turning in their graves!
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07-11-2013, 09:49 AM | #13 | ||
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Australian Automotive Manufacturing is dead, if you are in the unfortunate position for working in this industry, you have 3 years to retrain. Is it fair, probably not, but dont play victim when this **** finally comes to a halt.
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07-11-2013, 10:29 AM | #14 | ||
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Great article, thanks for posting it.
Don't blame Dowling for reporting the news. The Media didn't close Mitsubishi or Ford, the Australian public did by not buying their cars, long before the media got a sniff of closure.
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07-11-2013, 03:32 PM | #15 | ||
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Surprise!
Another journo falling over themselves to bury whats left Sadly for the future health of the country guess some will get this and some won't. To look at the Auto manufacturing sector in isolation is a mistake. The engineering Co. I worked for manufactured for the mining industry, Automotive, Defense, Aerospace. medical instruments manufacturing etc. There are many like it but these don't make the news like some of the high profile plants. Difficult to build up to and easy to p!$$ away with poor policy and blinkered views. One can go with the flow and let the tide of ignorance wash over you or you can stand up for what you believe in. The Germans do it well why can't we? Bill.
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07-11-2013, 04:56 PM | #16 | ||
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Not quite true , a fair proportion of people would have been put off Ford due to Dowlings endless stream of ill informed and untrue invective about them .
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07-11-2013, 05:31 PM | #17 | ||
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I think you give him too much credit. Him canning Ford is as effective as him saying the Focus and Ranger are best in class. Neither has a massive impact on Joe Public.
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J.Dowling is just one of pack constantly baying negativity. The media did the same even when Mitsu was developing the 380 they did their best to bury it with constant negative speculation. It becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
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07-11-2013, 07:21 PM | #19 | ||
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If there was to be a next gen model ute I picture it to be somewhat of a Proton Jumbuck.
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08-11-2013, 11:04 PM | #20 | ||
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Govco probably deserves most of the credit for putting in policy that is killing off our manufacturing decades ago, but we are probably also partly to blame for being somewhat ignorant and lazy letting govco take us down this path, as for media , it is like that person you have known forever that constantly talks and never knows when to shut up, but will never change.
The bloke is on the money I think, the car industry has the vultures circling sadly. |
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