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Old 27-01-2015, 04:38 PM   #1
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Default Absolutely brillant! Holden vs Ford: witches-hats - TV commercials

I'm not sure if this has been posted here before, but it's the most brilliant Ford Australia comeback ever! I saw it posted on FaceBook and it asked the question "Holden vs Ford Commercial wars, who do you think won this battle?"

I wish they did ads like this today! (I know Ford did a similar thing with its FG X at the Ford day, but nothing compares to this!)

So what do we think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW4091G5Bxo
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It's pretty amusing though, considering the XR8 next year will be reborn with the same spec engine as the FG GT, could you imagine being a HSV owner forking out all that money on a brand new GTS, then pulling up to the lights next to a FH XR8 and then sitting side by side all the way to 100 and beyond
Even more embarrasing would be the lower spec variants of the VF in HSV's stable getting whopped by a factory XR8.
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Old 27-01-2015, 05:20 PM   #2
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Love it sooo clever and take no rubbish attitude.
While some cars in the first add clearly handle worse, there is no doubt that driver is throwing those cars in far more then the ultra smooth action he uses for the kingswood.
Obviously why ford had a crack back.
Reminds me of the recent crack ford had at the dodgy dyno tests, asking for a controlled rematch where funnily enough, under controlled and non biased circumstances the results were reversed and the ford was crowned Australia's most powerfull muscle car
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Old 27-01-2015, 05:32 PM   #3
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Witches hats are for pussies(lions).
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If Brock had of been driving that yellow XC at the end, he would've just gone straight over the top of them. 'oops, sorry, something is wrong with the suspension, she`ll be right'
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Ah yes, the 70's.

When Ford were actually interested in selling Falcons.

How times have changed.
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Old 27-01-2015, 06:25 PM   #6
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Ah yes, the 70's

When people actually wanted to buy large sedans.

How times have changed.
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Old 27-01-2015, 06:30 PM   #7
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It was the best ever It really raised the middle finger straight at Holden!!!

Ah, the glory days. Gone forever.
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Ah yes, the 70's

When people actually wanted to buy large sedans.

How times have changed.
Advertising influences people into what to buy this is why big companies spend millions each year on adverts they wouldn't do it if it had no effect.
Convince people that the product is good and it will sell even if it isn't so great.
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Lol at the Cortina, thought it was going to tip over.
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Old 27-01-2015, 06:55 PM   #10
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240K Datsun did well, but not as heavy as the big cars.
I had one of these in the day, used to chase foxes on the farm with it, then drive 200kays home, great car.
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Old 27-01-2015, 06:56 PM   #11
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On the Shannon's Legends of Motorsport episode featuring Alan Moffat, the ad was brought up and Alan recounted the background to it. He apparently told the advertising manager that he could drive just as quick if not quicker in falcon than Brock and offered to demonstrate. Moffat suggested maybe we could do something a bit more impressive and have a person in place of the last witch's hat. It was noted that Edsel Ford was due soon and maybe he could be the person as Alan was sure with him driving Edsel would be safe. Apparently it took Detroit all of 3 seconds to say are you mad down there and no. Instead it was decided the race drivers would be used. Moffat's only stipulation was that Fred Gibson drive as he wasn't going to have Gossy driving with his back to him.
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Lol at the Cortina, thought it was going to tip over.
The datsun handled better than all of them
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Makes me sad not being around in the late 60's & the 70's, looks like I missed out on so much action, I never got to see production cars racing (actual homologation)
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Even more embarrasing would be the lower spec variants of the VF in HSV's stable getting whopped by a factory XR8.
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Old 27-01-2015, 07:27 PM   #14
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My old memory cells have reactivated, good lord what pieces of **** all those cars were! Haven't things moved on...
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On the Shannon's Legends of Motorsport episode featuring Alan Moffat, the ad was brought up and Alan recounted the background to it. He apparently told the advertising manager that he could drive just as quick if not quicker in falcon than Brock and offered to demonstrate. Moffat suggested maybe we could do something a bit more impressive and have a person in place of the last witch's hat. It was noted that Edsel Ford was due soon and maybe he could be the person as Alan was sure with him driving Edsel would be safe. Apparently it took Detroit all of 3 seconds to say are you mad down there and no. Instead it was decided the race drivers would be used. Moffat's only stipulation was that Fred Gibson drive as he wasn't going to have Gossy driving with his back to him.
from what i remember thats pretty accurate. ill should be able to confirm next time i see him
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In the ad you can hear the Holden engine slow down and engine brake.
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Ford vs Toyota

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP8_lb3lKX8&x-
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A couple of very good adds, it is depressing to see some of the adds of today compared to these, walking fingers has to be the lowest point .
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Fun fact, the Holden witches hat ad was filmed on the then very recently completed Eastern Freeway in Melb.
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Fun fact, the Holden witches hat ad was filmed on the then very recently completed Eastern Freeway in Melb.
Just watched it again to see this! No noise barriers back then for the poor home owners!
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What you can buy rust free xc's and hz's again?
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Lol, easy to whip you mob into a frenzy.

For starters, the red XC is a pre update 500, note the missing blue oval badge, so it doesn't have radial tuned sports handling suspension.

To get it pre update you had to tick the GXL box.

The Falcon tested in the Ford ad is an updated 78 model with the standard sports tuned suspension.

So the first test is legit, using the base Falcon on offer when HZ was released.
Ford revisited the test when the XC had been improved to match the HZ.

I wonder if those drivers would have stood in front of the early XC.
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Would like to see them all do the same test at 3 years/ 100,000 kms
all of them would have worn shocks and bushes,
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I think Paul Hogan or some other comedy show did a version of that ad if my memory serves me. It was a different outcome that's for sure!! LOL
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Ah yes, the 70's.

When Ford were actually interested in selling Falcons.

How times have changed.
So you think Ford just has to advertise the Falcon as much as Holden does with the VF or Toyota with their sedans and it will grow sales enough to keep the factory going?
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Lol, easy to whip you mob into a frenzy.

For starters, the red XC is a pre update 500, note the missing blue oval badge, so it doesn't have radial tuned sports handling suspension.

To get it pre update you had to tick the GXL box.

The Falcon tested in the Ford ad is an updated 78 model with the standard sports tuned suspension.

So the first test is legit, using the base Falcon on offer when HZ was released.
Ford revisited the test when the XC had been improved to match the HZ.

I wonder if those drivers would have stood in front of the early XC.
hahahahaha, is it ever not a competition with some of you guys? geez!
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Advertising influences people into what to buy this is why big companies spend millions each year on adverts they wouldn't do it if it had no effect.
Convince people that the product is good and it will sell even if it isn't so great.
Sorry I only agree with that statement if the product is in a suitable market. Even the commodore that gets more exposure then the sun, sells crap. It's numbers do not sustain it's production and ate nowhere near its previous large car sales numbers of old.
Put it this way....I bet Holden spends more then 4 times what ford does on advertising it's large car. Yet it sells 4 times the ford.
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Put it this way....I bet Holden spends more then 4 times what ford does on advertising it's large car. Yet it sells 4 times the ford.

4 x 0 = 0 lol
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Lol at the Holden Kingswood ad ..... now with .... wait for it .....

PUSH BUTTON RADIO!!!

Times have definitely changed.
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Lol at the Holden Kingswood ad ..... now with .... wait for it .....

PUSH BUTTON RADIO!!!

Times have definitely changed.
It would have been big back then. Most households would have watched that advert in black and white television. Probably caused a few accidents too!

'Hey Wozza, check this out. You don't need to turn it anymore, just press the buttons' Bang, straight into a Ghost Gum.
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