Calling all 4 speed auto drivers....

[InitialD]

Ive called all us "slushbox" owners here to ask a question...

Does anyone have a 1sec delay between gears in powermode or economy mode when the car is taking off? When i take off from the lights there is a 1sec "lag" between it changing gear, kinda hard to explain.

Ive had it serviced, etc but Im thinking it maybe a torque converter? Seems to have gotten more guttless recently ;) Just thought id ask before i go in asking stupid questions to the auto place

[InitialD]

Oh and i dont mean when you first boot it, i mean when its going 2nd to 3rd, 3rd to 4th when you are taking off.. its like a small delay/lag between gears

[jjj]

My EL fairmont changes gears really firm and quick in power mode and in economy mode you can't even feel it change gears.

When I drove my last car, which was a 89 Series II EA Falcon. The gearbox was sluggish to change and there was a delay in power mode. I'd say the EL 4spd auto gearbox is light years ahead in development and design, when compared with the very first 4spd auto's found in series II and Anniversary EA Falcons.

Get a gearbox from a low km EF OR EL falcon.

Cheers Luke.

[mcflux]

A shift kit should fix that problem ;);)

[InitialD]

Originally Posted by Ghia5L

A shift kit should fix that problem ;);)

well thats what a few people have said to me, the shift changing is really laggy and shits me, Ive driven a ED, EL and EB and none did it.

I know Gunns drove my car tuesday night and noticed this problem... he sugested Torque converter which I wasnt sure could be it...

[mcflux]

Torque converter could be a possibility... (especially for an older car)

Maybe buy a stally for the EA? :P

Methinks it's time for me to go offline now... Stupid exams!

Catchya on MSN mate ;)

-Dave-

[InitialD]

Does anyone know how to check if your torque converter is flogged?

[needturbo6]

torque convertors will die over time. i think the delay you are feeling is probably due to wear and tear, mainly in the clutches and bands. An s3/s4 shift kit would fix the problem... and your gearbox sounds like it needs a recon anyway, so a shift kit should help get a bit more life out of it.

torque convertor problems will be more like slipping clutch, and shift quality is less harmed i think.

[Damo]

T5 it! :P

I would imagine if the torque converter was flogged, the car would 'slip' through the gears a bit. It wouldn't convert the torque. lol. What would I know though...

Try do a burnout, that might fix it.

[InitialD]

Originally Posted by Damo

T5 it! :P

There is to be no "fit a T5" posts in this thread thanks ;)

Originally Posted by Damo

I would imagine if the torque converter was flogged, the car would 'slip' through the gears a bit. It wouldn't convert the torque. lol. What would I know though...

well thats what I thought... ?

Originally Posted by Damo

Try do a burnout, that might fix it.

well the thing is, i cant do a standstill, I use to be able to do a wheelie around a corner and no i cant even do that!

no lag here smooth changes all da time

[Gunns]

Originally Posted by Damo

T5 it! :P

I like your thinking!

[jonbays]

A shift kit would probably help but I would guess depending on your k's that its bands wear and tear and that a new trans or a rebuild is on the cards.

My AU always has been super smooth and it tends to slur the changes between gears like the engine is being torque controlled during the change. The shift kit fixes this but I never use it on the street as the seamless normal changes are more comfortable on the street when its not given full thorottle changes much as first goes to 90kmh so i don't get much opportunity for full throttle first to second changes on the street in Sydney city.

[BoZZa17]

i rekon mine is the same initial D
its too slow getting into the next gear

but mine is more noticable downshifting like when i boot it at likr 35km/hr it will go into first but like after a bit of delay and slipping

[au-steve]

have you done a stall test? pretty easy to tell if somethings wrong with a converter, even better take it to an auto specialist and give him a quick drive, may be able to find problems before there unfixable.
i should have listened to my guy instead of thinking he was trying to rip me off :(

[crannersEL]

Hey guys,
I got a 97 EL Auto GLi, and it sometimes delays into 2nd coming from first, its just not smooth, its a sudden jab. Sounds like it loses power then trys to pick it self up again. Dad says not to race through the gears in an Auto, because they are not made to be floored off the lights, mum cracks it at me when i put the foot down whilst going 60kmph....... (Will these wreck the car)

With the economy mode, should i be using that for inner city driving?
What are the reason for or against this??

Thanks

Cranners

[niko]

its a ford box, ive driven a 25year old mirc and the thing has a 4speed auto and it chirps gears..!

[oneredED]

Damn Micky, things just aren't going right for with this car at the moment are they :(

[SileNceR]

my ea's original box had a 2 second flare/lag then it banged into the next gear...

that box was ****ed.

so why won't you go t5 mick, can't you drive a manual or something?

[mcflux]

Originally Posted by niko

its a ford box, ive driven a 25year old mirc and the thing has a 4speed auto and it chirps gears..!

it's not the merc from this thread is it?

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=12090

-Dave-

[InitialD]

Originally Posted by SileNceR

my ea's original box had a 2 second flare/lag then it banged into the next gear...

that box was ****ed.

so why won't you go t5 mick, can't you drive a manual or something?

T5 isnt a option atm as ive got other stuff to do to it ;)

[niko]

t5= best power boost maybe your motor doesnt like slow autos but coz its bolted in the *** it just takes it..lol

[niko]

and no not that merc a 1981 look that stayed till early 90's

[au-steve]

bah! i don't belive in the whole "manual boxes make your car faster" thing.

[InitialD]

Originally Posted by au-steve

bah! i don't belive in the whole "manual boxes make your car faster" thing.

Well i have to agree, ive been in some really quick cars that are auto ;)

The car is being checked out during the week by my auto trans specialist.

Steve what did you mean by testing the torque converter?

[needturbo6]

Originally Posted by au-steve

bah! i don't belive in the whole "manual boxes make your car faster" thing.

well for most cars it doesnt make as big a difference as with 4 speed falcons and their way too tall 1st gear... not to mention histalls stuff the ecu around....

the 1/4 mile times (for N/A) tell the story

[Damo]

Originally Posted by InitialD

T5 isnt a option atm as ive got other stuff to do to it ;)

What, like neons ? : :

Steve - Stock for stock a manual will beat an auto. That's what I reckon anyway. It was definately a huge improvement in my car. Stock EA with 3 speed, now 5 speed, goes heaps quicker. :

Originally Posted by Damo

What, like neons ? : :

nah he's already done that damo :P, next he's getting a mirror ball to hang on his rear vision mirror.

[InitialD]

Originally Posted by John_xr6

nah he's already done that damo :P, next he's getting a mirror ball to hang on his rear vision mirror.

Mirror Ball eh? yea sure to hurl at Commo Drivers who beat me :

Damo, LOL more Rims, etc.. I dont like my cars looking like stocko EA's :

[EA2BA]

Hey Mick,

With the gear select display I have in my car, I notice that certain trans controllers will choose 'N' in between changing gears, and others just drop straight between gears, that could be causing your delay.