dev 5 kit...who has one?

chuckles · 16-10-2005, 07:44 PM

i am about to put a dev 5 cam, valve springs and cam gear in my ef gli. i was just wondering how many people have done it and what sort of quarter mile times could i expect. i am hoping it flies. sorry if this post is a bit sketchy, i am tired

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jonbays · 16-10-2005, 07:57 PM

What are you doing now over the qtr?

What mods have you done?

neb · 16-10-2005, 08:00 PM

i have a dev5 cam in mine not dialled in yet, stock head, stock xr6 valve springs have run 14.8

stiddy · 16-10-2005, 08:10 PM

Why are people doing mutant setups, whacking in dev5 cams into stock heads and stuff.. why not just get the complete kit it will work alot better!!!
yes its alot of money, but everytime you get in and drive it you will know where you money went.. with a full dev5 not just part of it you should see low 14's comfortably..
if you do the dodge and just whack in a cam like neb proves you'll be in the high 14's

HLC · 16-10-2005, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by stiddy

Why are people doing mutant setups, whacking in dev5 cams into stock heads and stuff.. why not just get the complete kit it will work alot better!!!
yes its alot of money, but everytime you get in and drive it you will know where you money went.. with a full dev5 not just part of it you should see low 14's comfortably..
if you do the dodge and just whack in a cam like neb proves you'll be in the high 14's

i live in erskine park as well. i use to have a Blue ED falcon... with ap-plate on it. but i wrote it off. cool. where abouts you from in this suburb... like area, im not askin street names lol.

stiddy · 16-10-2005, 08:21 PM

bout 2mins from ersko shops and the primary school..
ive you've seen a lowish silver AU with 18in mirror chrome rims, with a silly loud exhaust.. with green p's or a purple toyota celica with a fully body kit, also with mags and a silly loud exhaust, that would be me haha

HLC · 16-10-2005, 08:25 PM

is teh silly loud exhaust a hotdog by any chance? and do you have a h8rice sticker on it?

but ive probably seen your cars. ive got a blue AU 2 fairmont with green p's stock as but... insurance issues :(

im off regulus so bout 3 minutes from the shops lol

vegabass · 16-10-2005, 08:29 PM

I have to say the best mod i have done is the JMM Extractors and JMM exhaust with a high flow cat!!

it just hauls *** with extra power, better fuel ecconomy and thats before the kick *** tone and user friendly volume!!!

like they said get a kit but if you origionaly want a DEV 5 you will save $$$ doing it all at once rather than doing a bit here and a bit there.....

thats my input

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INJECTED_250 · 16-10-2005, 08:48 PM

should work fine

neb · 16-10-2005, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by stiddy

Why are people doing mutant setups, whacking in dev5 cams into stock heads and stuff.. why not just get the complete kit it will work alot better!!!
yes its alot of money, but everytime you get in and drive it you will know where you money went.. with a full dev5 not just part of it you should see low 14's comfortably..
if you do the dodge and just whack in a cam like neb proves you'll be in the high 14's

you should get your facts right before you start speaking crap, i don't know about you but i don't have $5500 to blow on a dev5 kit... i got the cam cheap so put it in and it goes well for what it is. head work is happening soon

stiddy · 16-10-2005, 09:13 PM

how the hell am i speaking crap..
the dev5 kit will be alot better than the dev5 cam by itself.. and im not saying it wont at all..
before you start accusing, read and understand what someone is saying..
and yes i know alot of people dont have 5,500 to throw at their engines.. but it would be better off to save and get the dev5 done rather then doing it bit by bit..

neb · 16-10-2005, 09:17 PM

yes the dev5 kit will be alot better thats obvious... but value for money i spent $250 on a cam and put it in myself and dropped over a second in my quarter mile you can't tell me thats not worth it

stiddy · 16-10-2005, 09:23 PM

man i never said once that its not worth it.. if someone wants a dev kit doing it bit by bit is the wrong way to go about it.. but if all you want is a cam, chip extractors for sure just go the cam..

neb · 16-10-2005, 09:29 PM

i still disagree... if you're going to get all the work done at jim mock or a mechanic then yes bit by bit will be more expensive... doing it yourself its not any different going either way

EFFalcon · 16-10-2005, 09:34 PM

not everyone has $1000's of $$$ to spend at once.
getting the cam first is a good way to see gains and set yourself up for future mods.

what would u suggest? maybe getting a Dev 3 cam which is for a stock head... what if later on he gets a ported head? then he's gotta go and get a bigger came to make the most of it.
plan ahead!

stiddy · 16-10-2005, 09:50 PM

thats exactly what i would do, get a dev3hl with chip and exhaust and be done with it..
what if he dosnt want to port the head, what if he only wants the basics.. a dev3hl would be the way to go.. ive seen dev3hl eb pull a 14.6

yeah planning a head is good, but theres no point throwing in a huge cam if the rest of the headwork isnt on the books..
i personally think its a no no unless your going for hte full dev, and even then i'd save for the dev5 instead of doing it bit by bit.. and i'd get the mocks to do it..

neb · 16-10-2005, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by stiddy

thats exactly what i would do, get a dev3hl with chip and exhaust and be done with it..
what if he dosnt want to port the head, what if he only wants the basics.. a dev3hl would be the way to go.. ive seen dev3hl eb pull a 14.6

Yes if that's all you want for sure go the dev3hl. But if you are going to do headwork no harm in throwing the cam in early. I have a head sitting here ready to have work done to it, unichip ready to go in, diff gears ready to go in...

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Originally Posted by stiddy

yeah planning a head is good, but theres no point throwing in a huge cam if the rest of the headwork isnt on the books..

running 16s while saving for headwork or running 14.8s while saving for headwork, i know what i would prefer

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Originally Posted by stiddy

i personally think its a no no unless your going for hte full dev, and even then i'd save for the dev5 instead of doing it bit by bit.. and i'd get the mocks to do it..

theres no reason to not run a dev5 cam with a stock head it still goes good performance wise, and it runs and idles fine, fuel economy is fine better than it was stock.

also why get the mocks to do it if you're mechanically able. i'd only reccomend it if you really don't know what you're doing but it's not that difficult to change a head and cam, i'll probably pay to get my cam dialled in by local mechanic because i'm not too sure on doing that. but thats alot cheaper than getting it done at jim mock and you get the same results.

Gubas · 16-10-2005, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by stiddy

yeah planning a head is good, but theres no point throwing in a huge cam if the rest of the headwork isnt on the books..

Read nebs post. He is planning headwork

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Originally Posted by neb

head work is happening soon

Gubas

EDIT: BAH too slow.

stiddy · 16-10-2005, 10:14 PM

i was mainly refering to the guy who started this thread, we dont know what his plans are in the future, thats why im saying if hes not planning headwork or other biggish mods then theres no point for the dev5 cam..

as for neb, yeah fine you've got the cam your waiting on headwork, i personally would of gone about it a different way..

and yeah i can get do the head and cam myself no problems what so ever, but id rather them do it so they can add tehre special little secrets..
i am yet to see a dev car not installed by mock, keep upto to a dev car the same that was intalled by mock..

EFFalcon · 16-10-2005, 10:16 PM

what about the interstate cars running JMM gear?
what about Hamo's AU thats not even running JMM gear?
Dev5 cam + stock head still works.
you may not be planning headwork now, but considering they're the same price.
why not future proof yaself.

niko · 16-10-2005, 10:17 PM

its easier and CHEAPER to drop in a cam especially in a i6 than do headwork

commodores are a different story

stiddy · 16-10-2005, 10:20 PM

what about the insterstate cars running jmm gear?
hamo dosent have jmm gear, this is questioning jmm gear so he doesnt count..
and im not saying and never said it wouldnt work with the dev5 cam in the stock head.
believe it or not some people may not want to go nuts on their motors.. so he might just be satisfied with something like a dev3 and thats that.. he wont touch it every again..
and even after a year and he MIGHT decide to step up to a dev5, from a say a dev 3, jmm take it into account that you have got a dev3 and they wont charge you the full price of the dev5..
ive spoken to him about this before..

neb · 16-10-2005, 10:21 PM

theres no little secrets... the head and cam setup is pretty basic... the only 'secrets' is shimming it up correctly and setting the cam timing right and also base ignition timing.

i guess you will have to wait and see when mines done if it has the same mock dev5 performance, i'll most likely be getting headwork done elsewhere but i'm sure it won't be any different in performance then a dev5 kit actually done at jim mock

stiddy · 16-10-2005, 10:25 PM

its their gear, they developed it, they know their stuff.. i'd prefer them to do the job..

and yeah i guess we will have to wait and see/compare the differences..

17-10-2005, 10:11 AM

does anyone know where i can buy a dev 5v cam kit in melbourne? cheap for like 250?

neb · 17-10-2005, 10:17 AM

i only got the cam for that price because it was second hand from a friend... you'd most likely have to pay full price from jim mock it's not often that they come up for sale second hand

XDSLIDER · 17-10-2005, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by neb

i only got the cam for that price because it was second hand from a friend... you'd most likely have to pay full price from jim mock it's not often that they come up for sale second hand

I am actually going to sell a DEV 5 cam. I will be pulling it out of my EF when I return from China as I have a New BF ute coming.
The DEV 5 cam works really well on its own. Admittedly its no quarter mile hero but I is a big improvement on a standard cam.

LUKE

Gunns · 17-10-2005, 10:44 AM

For the cam, springs and verier gear will cost about $800 vs $5500 for a full dev 5 kit.
We are talking a lot of cash difference here.
$5500 would buy you a 6psi STA turbo kit, with everything that is needed.
Drop in the cam mate and be happy with a high 14 pass. Quikxr6 got a low 14 with no head work, so don't write it off.
Good luck and let us know what happens.

94EDxr6 · 17-10-2005, 05:45 PM

When slapping in a cam - whats the difference between dialing it in the adjusting the timings? or is it the same thing? If i get a cam dumped in mine and then get my engine dyno tuned, will that be the same thing? or is a dyno tune different to dialing in/adjusting the timings?

STOKEB · 18-10-2005, 01:25 AM

i had a dev 5 cam in my car, best i got out of my car was a 13.9 and thats with no head portings as well only cleaned out ports that it