Who's using a reprogrammable chip in their E-Series?

[XRated]

I've read around several forums and the general consensus I have picked up is, "Chiptorque for autos," because of the speed limiter and shift point changes etc or a Unichip if you have that bit of extra cash.

Now the questions:
For a 6 cyl Falcon, T5 and cam - just the usual sort of stuff...

What is the best option?
What benefits do some chips have over others? ie. Wolf 3D v4 Plus, Unichip, Chiptorque.
Which one has the flexibility for future upgrades? ie. if I was to go forced one day.
How flexible are they getting tuned?
What does it usually cost for a supply and tune? I have read $1300 for the Unichip, but I'm quite interested in the price of tuning a Wolf and how it'd perform against a Unichip.
What benefits could one expect (better power curve, better economy etc)?

The Capa "edit" (using the term loosely) seems like a long way away, and who knows if it will ever be released.

Any help for a n00b re. chips is appreciated

[EFFalcon]

This thread may help a bit, i know the chiptorques the cheapest of the lot.
Unichips roughly $1250 fitted and tuned.
the advantage of a full aftermarket ECU is that it can be tuned by anyone, unlike the chiptorque or unichip that need specific dealers to do it.

hxxp://www.fordmods.com/forums/viewt...t=7314&start=0

[slamd ef wagon]

power chips arent that much they rrp for $590

[XRated]

I've priced a Wolf3D Plus at appx. $1300, and another $600-1000 for tuning. That's getting bloody expensive!! A Unichip fitted and tuned for $1300 is much more inviting (price wise)....

If only I can find a second hand Unichip or Wolf3D :(

[Sundeep]

Who's using a reprogrammable chip in their E-Series?

I am.

Sundeep

[vegabass]

I had a powerchip once.
it lasted 2 days


Im getting a chiptorque chip done because there loading the manual program and a custom tune. they also said it could be tuned for boosted applications in the future. its costing me *$850


*subject to change

[stockstandard]

Originally Posted by XRated

I've priced a Wolf3D Plus at appx. $1300, and another $600-1000 for tuning. That's getting bloody expensive!! A Unichip fitted and tuned for $1300 is much more inviting (price wise)....

If only I can find a second hand Unichip or Wolf3D :(

The difference is MASSIVE though. A unichip just tricks the EEC into changing tune and can only be tuned by unichip dealers. A wolf replaces your ecu and can be tuned by anyone - even yourself.

EMS stingers are slightly cheaper alternative to a wolf. Ive had quotes for $1600 fitted and tuned compared to $1300 for unichip.

IMHO - Unichips are WAY overpriced for what they are.

[The Goodz]

The ol' crate has a Wolf 3D with hand controller, and I paid just under $2400. That includes tuning as well. It makes a HUGE difference, and the tunability is incredible. Definitely worth the cash. But then unless you've got a lot of engine mods its probably not that necessary.

Alex

[XRated]

Ahhh cheers, that's what I was unclear about.

I might aim for the Wolf3D, sounds like it will have huge potential.

[Gunns]

I was quoted $1800 installed and tuned for a wolf3d V4, by a place in tullamarine

[efgiar]

wat about MS2? people underestimate it :P and its build it urself, a challange and cheap too

[XRated]

Originally Posted by Gunns

I was quoted $1800 installed and tuned for a wolf3d V4, by a place in tullamarine

Hey Al, that sounds fairly decent - is that the PLUS version? Do you know what rpm step they tune it to? ie. every 250 or 500 etc. And what's the place called?

[347Stroker]

In my experiences, the factory computer is a bloody good bit of gear that will make its way aroung a uni-chip and or powerchip. Have a look at the cars I have and see if I havent tried.
In my opinion, you are tearing up $50 notes for no reason at all installing these useless bits of crap.
Get a stand alone computer and reap the reward of unlimited tunability and good consistant power.

Just out of interest, with uni chip or chiptorque, ask them for a written guarantee for 24 months, or even 12 that states the car will not lose power, and need re-tuning and see what sort of dribble they come up with.
It shows you how confident they are in the product they sell

[stockstandard]

Originally Posted by KingMutant

In my experiences, the factory computer is a bloody good bit of gear that will make its way aroung a uni-chip and or powerchip. Have a look at the cars I have and see if I havent tried.
In my opinion, you are tearing up $50 notes for no reason at all installing these useless bits of crap.
Get a stand alone computer and reap the reward of unlimited tunability and good consistant power.

Just out of interest, with uni chip or chiptorque, ask them for a written guarantee for 24 months, or even 12 that states the car will not lose power, and need re-tuning and see what sort of dribble they come up with.
It shows you how confident they are in the product they sell

Thats a bit harsh. Fair enough they are not the best products out there for tuning but they are not worthless. Especially when a chiptorque will get you 80-90% of the gains at 1/4 of the cost compared to a stand alone ECU.

And there is no way the computer can learn around a chiptorque either as it changes the maps - its basically and edit.

[BOOSTDEF]

Id spend the extra $$ on a standalone... Not saying unichips and chiptorques are crap, because they are far from it, but just incase you decide to go boost, or want to do some home tuning a standalone is the way to go...

But if you looked around, you can get 2nd hand unichips for $400.. very cheap power really.

[347Stroker]

Send Rollin a PM and ask him about his A9L and Tweecer he used on his six before the turbo set-up. I know you cant buy it from him as adxr8 has already.