Ebay; Turbo EB Fairmont $6500.

Sundeep · 28-04-2005, 03:33 PM

Man I'm bored today.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....545272572&rd=1

How sick is it. Problem is, the guy is deluded.

"Q: What sort of engine management is it running? Also what size intercooler? Any other internal engine mods? Upgraded fuel pump and injectors?

A: at current intake temps are quite satisfactory, if they were too high i would have the intercooler on it, but i prefer the sleeper effect, plus i am out of money. Bottom end is fine for 18-20psi, head gasket was done and head reco'd also, injectors are maxed now, if you wish to go more power then you will need to upgrade injectors and then need bigger pump in the tank, the standard computer is fine to 9psi, go over this and then you strike problems, i have adjusted timing etc to make it run very nicely with standard comp. Again, if you are looking at something to get 260rwkw+, yes you will need to do injectors, front mount, some form of upgrade or piggy back for fueling, and the larger pump in the tank. As it stands it is going great and everything is working beautifully together. "

Also see this question:

Q: are you gay. what sort of idiot would turbo his mums eb? why? why? why? you have got to be the most dumbest poof ever! u r gay! stick 2 playing with boys blow-off valves! bye. YOU POOF!

What the...

Sundeep

EFFalcon · 28-04-2005, 03:41 PM

i can't see it being much better then urs... especially when hot! :o

InitialD · 28-04-2005, 03:58 PM

LOL that last question must have been posted by a Grade 6 kid

4.9 EF Futura · 28-04-2005, 03:59 PM

I would have thought his response to the inital question was reasonable....

Intercooler would be nice with the turbs.... and yeah, 20psi on the stock bottom end a bit of a ****... altho i suppose with all the head gaskets you'd be destroying, prolly wouldnt get a chance to blow the bottom end, lol. Stock ECU to 9psi is consistent with what ive been told by tuners/installers... i guess you'd be running such little advance it would be a killer... maybe this is the MAP limit? I6 EEC doesnt deal too well with load > 100%.....

It's an awesome setup... get 42lb inj, new f pump, ditch the EEC... you'd be laughing all the way to the speed trap.

dansedgli · 28-04-2005, 04:09 PM

That guy sounds full of it, its too expensive as well. I sold my car for $7K with the wolf, bigger injectors, cooler, better turbo, etc etc. Maybe I should have held out for more!

Sundeep · 28-04-2005, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 4.9 EF Futura

Stock ECU to 9psi is consistent with what ive been told by tuners/installers

It's misleading in the sense that a potential buyer would think that the engine management is capable of doing it's thing to 9PSI, which it isn't. You'd easily need a piggy back computer or fueller of some sort at anything over 3PSI. Of course the ECU could still work in theory to 9PSI, but everything it's trying to control probably wouldn't.

Sundeep

4.9 EF Futura · 28-04-2005, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundeep

It's misleading in the sense that a potential buyer would think that the engine management is capable of doing it's thing to 9PSI, which it isn't. You'd easily need a piggy back computer or fueller of some sort at anything over 3PSI. Of course the ECU could still work in theory to 9PSI, but everything it's trying to control probably wouldn't.

Sundeep

Yes, well put. Chip from CAPA or the like would take 9PSI i suppose... lol, so that's technically using the factory computer...

Lol.. he must have timing locked at 10deg with SPOUT pulled or something similar...

Sounds like he's got a steep FMU on there as well.... 8:1, more likely 12:1...

Sundeep · 28-04-2005, 07:54 PM

For anything up to 10PSI, I have faith in microfuellers! Cheapest and most effective fuelling modification for aftermarket turbo conversions

Sundeep

needturbo6 · 28-04-2005, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundeep

It's misleading in the sense that a potential buyer would think that the engine management is capable of doing it's thing to 9PSI, which it isn't. You'd easily need a piggy back computer or fueller of some sort at anything over 3PSI. Of course the ECU could still work in theory to 9PSI, but everything it's trying to control probably wouldn't.

Sundeep

turbotrana (from the other forum) used a 2:1 malpassi reg and a high flow bosch fuel pump and up to 6psi he got a/f ratios of ~13:1 which are very reasonable.

needturbo6 · 29-04-2005, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by InitialD

LOL that last question must have been posted by a Grade 6 kid

i dont know a bout that!! thats an insult to grade 6 kids who have more brains.....

chelvdog · 29-04-2005, 01:22 PM

I don't think it's fair to call a guy deluded because he gave it a go and got real results. Sure, some of his statements were plainly wrong! I've met Dave, the owner and builder of this car and he is a decent guy. I took a ride in it as well, and there is zero detonation, turbo lag or obvious problems. Sure it would be nice to run aftermarket management and larger injectors, but as the car stands now, it works perfectly fine. I was considering buying this, but the cost to transport to S.A, plus the fact that I stacked the ED, put an end to that. Personally, if I bought it, I'd add a front mount, maybe a micro-fueller (but that would be a bandaid approach if you wanted more boost in the fututre) but preferably after market management and larger injectors.

Sundeep · 29-04-2005, 02:33 PM

I called him deluded because he reckons you can put 18PSI through a EB motor. Ah yeah ok.

He's also running the standard exhaust. I can tell you from recent experience, standard exhaust = not good with turbos.

Sundeep

sphell · 29-04-2005, 07:40 PM

The 9psi and ECU thing doesn't really make sense...it's not the ECU that can't handle the boost, it's the MAP sensor. You can only run 10psi before they freak out. I'm sure you could run higher boost with a 2bar MAP sensor and Microfueller and still keep the stock ECU.