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11-04-2011, 10:46 AM | #1 | |||
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http://www.carpoint.com.au/news/2011...-pd-team-24384
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Also interesting to note the comments about product development needing that inherent access to a manufacturing capacity and the future of the Falcon - although I think that comment may have been the journo interpreting it in a certain way.
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11-04-2011, 02:21 PM | #2 | |||
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11-04-2011, 02:27 PM | #3 | ||
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/waits for manufacturing negatives
Its all very good news for PD. Anyone who has been to the PG knows that the investment there recently (last few years) wouldnt be used for T6 alone.
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11-04-2011, 03:21 PM | #4 | ||
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The way I see it is this: if Ford want to keep trumpeting the fact that Ford Australia is one of only three locations globally that can do what they do (that is, design engineer and build a car from scratch), then they will need to keep the plant open. Close it, and it will be no different to any of the other regional outposts like in China, South Africa, Argentina, England etc that do local design stuff and that is about all - in which case, why have PD here at all if it will be no 'better' than those others and those others can design cars for their own markets?
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11-04-2011, 05:57 PM | #5 | ||
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Probably because they spent so much money on the new facilities when times were good and needed a return on investment. If they made the call now they probably wouldn't have done it.
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11-04-2011, 06:07 PM | #6 | |||
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I'm not sure what cologne builds if any.
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11-04-2011, 08:04 PM | #7 | |||
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Saarlouis builds Focus, Kuga and C-Max |
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11-04-2011, 08:31 PM | #8 | |||
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They were in deep doo doo all around the world.... And FWIW, they are still making the call by giving FAPA work and hiring engineers on 12 month contracts.. |
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11-04-2011, 09:45 PM | #9 | |||
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Back to the article, the guy Baumbick is obviously very proud of T6 and he does gush on about it but its not the be all and end all of FoA.
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12-04-2011, 01:48 PM | #10 | ||||
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This is exactly what needs to be done, keep the positive press happening. Quote:
Maybe having a CEO here in Australia with a marketing background is a good thing. The guys and girls are talking things up much more, being more pro-active and there is more positive press for Ford locally.
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12-04-2011, 04:14 PM | #11 | |||
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when it comes to SUVs he is pretty much the knowledge guy and probably a great team leader to have on an Aussie project, sounds like the right mix of enthusiasm and conservatism... |
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12-04-2011, 04:37 PM | #12 | ||
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He's the one who is supposed to be heading up the T6 wagon project.
I'm actually quite keen to see the T6 wagon.
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12-04-2011, 05:39 PM | #13 | |||
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I wasn't referring to Ford Global. |
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12-04-2011, 05:44 PM | #14 | |||
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12-04-2011, 05:51 PM | #15 | |||
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Ive always thought he was one of the better ones.... |
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12-04-2011, 06:06 PM | #16 | |||
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I'm glad he left Ford, i'd assume he had to leave as Detroit weren't going to give him a promotion after the pathetic job he did down here. |
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12-04-2011, 06:33 PM | #17 | |||
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12-04-2011, 10:06 PM | #18 | ||
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850 engineers (I take it that does not include support staff either) is a hell of a lot of people - where are they putting them all?
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12-04-2011, 10:17 PM | #19 | ||
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im trying to place the timeline, was it Gorman who oversaw the 'fingers' FG launch? I can forgive programs being delayed, but not being able to sell and market cars is crazy for a motor vehicle industry CEO!
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12-04-2011, 10:18 PM | #20 | ||
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Bill Osborne was CEO for the FG launch but only for about 2 weeks :P
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13-04-2011, 10:45 AM | #21 | ||||
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Bill Osbourne was 1 February 2008 to September 2008. B.Sc. Mech. He led the Duratec V6 team. Left to go to military? industry. Well regarded. Marin Burela was September 2008 to October 2008. He led the Fiesta program and successful launch. Our friend in China. Most likely helping get FoA the business to design the rumoured 'China' car, just like the smash hit 'Indian' Figo. Bob Graziano October 2008 to present. Literally swapped positions with Burela. Product planning, sales and marketing. All are sorely needed. Good fit for Ford Australia.
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13-04-2011, 01:25 PM | #22 | ||
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Phillip, I think you might need to fix the typo with Marin & Bod swap.. Oct 2010 & not 2008.
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13-04-2011, 03:16 PM | #23 | |||
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13-04-2011, 03:42 PM | #24 | ||
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Anyhoo...
I wonder what else they're working on? T6 SUV Ecoboost Falcon Chinese B-car Ikon? (or is that finished?) Territory (just finished) LPi Falcon (almost finished) CD4/Mondeo/Fusion ???
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15-04-2011, 02:48 PM | #26 | ||
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I think we should view FOA manufacturing and PD on different paths. FOA may not be manufacturing Falcon/Territory post 2015, alot of people are saying a CD4 based vehicle, or worst case scenario, the plant shuts down.
In terms of PD, would it be fair to say that FOA will have input on the next large car, and we will probably see an imported Falcon/Territory post 2015? |
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