Message for the "anti-roads" fraternity

[Brazen]

Roads are the future. Public transport is outdated and old fashioned.

Imagine in 2015 waiting on the side of the road for a bus in the rain, waiting for it to trundle along slowly (on its own schedule not yours) picking you up then pottering off to the next stop 300m down the road. Finally you get to your destination - but it doesn't take you to the door, it's still a 5 min walk to the office. Also Imagine late at night and being a young female or blind or mobility impaired... Public transport is from the 1950s and I can't believe people accept it yet whinge about their internet being 2 seconds too slow.

The future is efficient, autonomous, environmentally, self-driving vehicles that communicate with each other and coordinate their actions with the roads and traffic signals. You are in your own vehicle with the climate and music set accordingly. You can work on your laptop or read a story to your kids. These vehicles drop you off to your door and then go and find a park or are a lease service and go and get the next occupant.

Mass rail transport will always be vital but We need modern fast flowing roads that will keep up with the rapid change in transport technology.

[Trump]

Originally Posted by Brazen

Roads are the future. Public transport is outdated and old fashioned.

Imagine in 2015 waiting on the side of the road for a bus in the rain, waiting for it to trundle along slowly (on its own schedule not yours) picking you up then pottering off to the next stop 300m down the road. Finally you get to your destination - but it doesn't take you to the door, it's still a 5 min walk to the office. Also Imagine late at night and being a young female or blind or mobility impaired... Public transport is from the 1950s and I can't believe people accept it yet whinge about their internet being 2 seconds too slow.

The future is efficient, autonomous, environmentally, self-driving vehicles that communicate with each other and coordinate their actions with the roads and traffic signals. You are in your own vehicle with the climate and music set accordingly. You can work on your laptop or read a story to your kids. These vehicles drop you off to your door and then go and find a park.

We need modern fast flowing roads that will keep up with the rapid change in transport technology.

So is that why London, most of the large metropolises in Asia, hell even Los Angeles are investing heavily in public mass transit systems and not in road infrastructure?

Imagine the gridlock should Melbourne's 3.5 million+ vehicles hit the road at the same time come peak hour in the scenario where public mass transit is non existent or severely curtailed from what currently exists. It would cease to be an hour and end up being a dawn to dusk logjam. And no amount of automation would be able to deal with such a massive volume of traffic.

[jpblue1000]

Originally Posted by Brazen

The future is efficient, autonomous, environmentally, self-driving vehicles that communicate with each other and coordinate their actions with the roads and traffic signals. You are in your own vehicle with the climate and music set accordingly. You can work on your laptop or read a story to your kids.

isn't that what public transport allows already?

JP

[new2ford]

Originally Posted by Brazen

Roads are the future. Public transport is outdated and old fashioned.

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by new2ford

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The logic of that GIF is flawed.

60 people = 60 cars = 60 buses.
Or
60 people = 12 cars = 1 bus?

[new2ford]

Originally Posted by Ben73

The logic of that GIF is flawed.

60 people = 60 cars = 60 buses.
Or
60 people = 12 cars = 1 bus?

It doesn't stay still long enough for me to count, but the logic is that an articulated bus carries about 130 or more people and if they were all in their own cars there would be approx 130 cars on the road instead.

So next time you're stuck behind a bus cursing it, think whether you'd prefer 130 cars to be in front of you instead!

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by new2ford

It doesn't stay still long enough for me to count, but the logic is that an articulated bus carries about 130 or more people and if they were all in their own cars there would be approx 130 cars on the road instead.

So next time you're stuck behind a bus cursing it, think whether you'd prefer 130 cars to be in front of you instead!

True, but my sarcastic point was that 130 people could fit in 26 cars if you really wanted to. Considering most cars have 5 seats.

I'm all for public transport though. More cars off the road the better.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by Ben73

I'm all for public transport though. More cars off the road the better.

Quite agree but it is a shame the present transport systems would not be able to handle extra passenger capacity if that happened

[jpblue1000]

Originally Posted by trublu

Quite agree but it is a shame the present transport systems would not be able to handle extra passenger capacity if that happened

Hence the need for investment in Public transport. Make more of the roads we have already paid for rather than make new ones.

JP