K&N air filters, whats your opinion?

[bazza91]

Originally Posted by 99AUXR

Why I stopped commenting until now, Im uninformed and use a K&N. Last time I checked this thread was titled opinion.

Yes this is a thread for peoples opinion/experience/facts about k&n air filters.

Its good hearing somebody who does UOA and uses a k&n filter.
Given that you arent alarmed by any of your UOA's, if you could explain the sort of driving that you do, im sure that you can prove as to whether or not sprintman is being a troll or not.

Im now thinking i may give the k&n a go and see if it makes any difference on my ute, and whether or not it makes my oil dirtier, like i said i do alot of dirt road driving.

[99AUXR]

Originally Posted by bazza91

Yes this is a thread for peoples opinion/experience/facts about k&n air filters.

Its good hearing somebody who does UOA and uses a k&n filter.
Given that you arent alarmed by any of your UOA's, if you could explain the sort of driving that you do, im sure that you can prove as to whether or not sprintman is being a troll or not.

Im now thinking i may give the k&n a go and see if it makes any difference on my ute, and whether or not it makes my oil dirtier, like i said i do alot of dirt road driving.

As for driving up until today my F6 was used as my daily always take it on a decent drive afterwork so Im never cold running it as I dont live very far from the workshop. Certainly dont drive down dusty roads etc.

I also just had a look at PHANTM tests which are pretty much inline with mine and if Im looking at them at correct Km, his Si was only high for a bit after the motor was rebuilt.

I dont disagree that its entirely possible that K&N passes more dust however my intake pipe is never dirty (removed every service to clean any engine oil from front of turbo).

The standard airbox let alone the under battery intake gets restrictive circa 350rwkw this is when I will have to go to battery relocation with a 4'' turbo side intake and guess what filter is supplied to work with this setup ;)

[sprintman1]

Originally Posted by 99AUXR

As for driving up until today my F6 was used as my daily always take it on a decent drive afterwork so Im never cold running it as I dont live very far from work. Certainly dont drive down dusty roads etc.

I also just had a look at PHANTM tests which are pretty much inline with mine and if Im looking at them at correct Km, his Si was only high for a bit after the motor was rebuilt.

Maybe we should have a UOA thread and show all the other stuff they can tell you about engine health?

[99AUXR]

Originally Posted by sprintman1

Maybe we should have a UOA thread and show all the other stuff they can tell you about engine health?

Im unsure in what your implying we are talking about K&N and their filtration hence my comments regarding Si. Not any other engine scenarios with opinions, make up your ******* mind man, stay on topic and prove your point.

[Express]

I have a blue Finer Filter on a Torana, it’s been on it for about 20 years.

It’s never been oiled.

Does anyone know what are they like?

[sprintman1]

Originally Posted by 99AUXR

Im unsure in what your implying we are talking about K&N and their filtration hence my comments regarding Si. Not any other engine scenarios with opinions, make up your ******* mind man, stay on topic and prove you point.

Go and read some UOA's and stop wasting your time here. If you need help PM me.

[99AUXR]

Originally Posted by sprintman1

Go and read some UOA's and stop wasting your time here. If you need help PM me.

Originally Posted by sprintman1

Marketing over performance. Standing joke on any lube forum eg BITOG.

Originally Posted by sprintman1

Ever read a UOA from an engine using a Krap & Nasty?

Originally Posted by sprintman1

Your not getting this are you? It isn't 'my viewpoint' it's anybody who has realised from UOA how poor the aforesaid is at its primary task.

Originally Posted by sprintman1

Replaced the Krap & Nasty CAI pod filter on a BMW I owned with an Amsoil EaA CAI filter. Actually filtered, better air flow, looked better, no filter oil etc. Harder to come by though

Originally Posted by sprintman1

Air flow yes, cleaning no.

Originally Posted by sprintman1

They don't do a good job of filtration anywhere!

Originally Posted by sprintman1

Unlike you I read around 5 UOA's a day and have done for over 15 years so I have a pretty fair idea of what works and what doesn't. And yes there was one on the BMW when purchased but it was quickly consigned to the bin where it belonged.

Originally Posted by sprintman1

Better reusable filters are available that don't require oil. Better filtering/airflow, look way better (CAI style) and cheaper, a win in every dept.

Originally Posted by sprintman1

I'll PM for obvious reasons.

Originally Posted by sprintman1

Yes but most here follow marketing guff not tech data. It's why people like
Snap-on fan boyz pay silly prices for their product to give just one example.

Originally Posted by sprintman1

If you read from post #1 you'd get it. Again there are thousands of UOA's available that show KN pretty much useless. Now either you don't know what a UOA is or you can't understand them?

Originally Posted by sprintman1

I ditched the one fitted to BMW purchased as having read more UOA's than I've had hot dinners I knew, as did everybody else, that they are a joke. It was replaced with a far superior reusable product. Is there some part of that you don't understand?

Originally Posted by sprintman1

In your case it would be beyond you.

Originally Posted by sprintman1

Thousands at BITOG. But will you know how to read one?

Originally Posted by sprintman1

I do as I provide lubrication/service advice to people worldwide but I no longer own one. And BITOG is a forum for anything automotive and the largest of it's kind. Speaks volumes that most here aren't members.......

Originally Posted by sprintman1

I respect those who understand empirical data and then make a decision. Very few here would understand that let alone follow it.

Originally Posted by sprintman1

Maybe we should have a UOA thread and show all the other stuff they can tell you about engine health?

Originally Posted by sprintman1

Go and read some UOA's and stop wasting your time here. If you need help PM me.

We are still waiting for your point to be proven. You have danced around everything and hinted anything of value would need to be discussed in PM. Also making it out like reading a UOA is some kind of god given gift that only you can do.

So please enlighten us all with the very, very bad data you have on K&N Filters. Im more than open for discussion and will happily learn if Im wrong, but over the last few days I have seen nothing to suggest so.

[sprintman1]

Originally Posted by 99AUXR

We are still waiting for your point to be proven. You have danced around everything and hinted anything of value would need to be discussed in PM. Also making it out like reading a UOA is some kind of god given gift that only you can do.

So please enlighten us all with the very, very bad data you have on K&N Filters. Im more than open for discussion and will happily learn if Im wrong, but over the last few days I have seen nothing.

Can you read a UOA or can't you? I'm not going to hold your hand

[PHANTMXR6]

Originally Posted by sprintman1

Maybe we should have a UOA thread and show all the other stuff they can tell you about engine health?

I do already..... And the link is in my signature.

[Express]

Originally Posted by bazza91

Yes this is a thread for peoples opinion/experience/facts about k&n air filters.

Its good hearing somebody who does UOA and uses a k&n filter.
Given that you arent alarmed by any of your UOA's, if you could explain the sort of driving that you do, im sure that you can prove as to whether or not sprintman is being a troll or not.

Im now thinking i may give the k&n a go and see if it makes any difference on my ute, and whether or not it makes my oil dirtier, like i said i do alot of dirt road driving.

This is how he drives, like his 85 year old granny on the way to the library.

https://youtu.be/ru8xHL9Atok