Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-11-2007, 02:26 PM   #1
EA Bogan
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Campbelltown, Adelaide, SA
Posts: 109
Default hazard perception test is a load of crap

well, i just failed the damn hazard perception test. The video is a roughly 320 X 240 ultra low-res clip so you cant even make out a car from a rock or a tree or a wheelchair in the distance. The slow down and turn ones seemed easy enough but the ones where the cars turning from the right have right of way, they stop for seeminlgy no reason. The whole test is a cash sucking bunch of child molesting parrot droppings. I am a pizza delivery driver and have been for about a year ever since i got my Ps, i drive 20+ hours a week and i have driven over 15,000 kms on my Ps in peak traffic urban conditions as well as highways so im about as experienced and skilled as P platers get. I have not had ONE crash or incident on the roads and i find this test ridiculous. You dont drive a car and cross intersections by watching a video of your car and pressing some fruity screen when it prompts you to do stuff, how it is even relevant to real world conditions is beyond me..

__________________
Car 1: Silver 1990 Ford EA s2 Fairmont Ghia 4speed auto

Car 2: White 1998 Toyota Starlet Life 5speed manual
EA Bogan is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-11-2007, 02:31 PM   #2
|||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 575
Default

lolz

hope i never cross your path from the right
||| is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-11-2007, 02:35 PM   #3
Polyal
The 'Stihl' Man
Donating Member2
 
Polyal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: TAS
Posts: 27,588
Default

I agree, back when I did it I nearly failed it; but got 97% on the rest of it. Not much you can do; next time just press it early and say you were being cautious..LOL
__________________
  • 2017 Toyota Prado (work hack)
  • 2017 Mitsubishi Pajero Sport
  • 2003 CL7 Honda Accord Euro R (JDM) - K20A 6MT
  • 1999 Lexus IS200 - 1G-FE Turbo 6MT
  • 1973 ZF Ford Fairlane
Polyal is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-11-2007, 02:41 PM   #4
EA Bogan
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Campbelltown, Adelaide, SA
Posts: 109
Default

i downloaded the practice test just now (the dude at the rego office said there IS NO PRACTICE TEST) and failed that too 4 times before getting it right. It seems you cant slow down too early either..also the guy did not tell me WHY i failed, basically just to improve my skills..damn prat, if he wont tell me why i failed how can i not fail next time? The practice test is just as blurry as the real one, you cant make out street signs and i had difficulty making out debris on the road..i have 20/20 vision by the way..
__________________
Car 1: Silver 1990 Ford EA s2 Fairmont Ghia 4speed auto

Car 2: White 1998 Toyota Starlet Life 5speed manual
EA Bogan is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-11-2007, 02:52 PM   #5
savagE
Complete ****** n bogan
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 107
Default

You serious, its a joke of a test because its useless and easy. That is the dead set easiest test. Get off the roads or get more practice with an instructor.
savagE is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-11-2007, 02:58 PM   #6
Lightning Strike GT
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Lightning Strike GT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: QLD
Posts: 1,255
Default

It is only crap because you failed
__________________
Regards Alan
FG GT in Lightning Strike
5th anniversary edition in manual 1 of 25
And an 2019 MD Mondeo Trend Wagon in Platinum White
Lightning Strike GT is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-11-2007, 02:58 PM   #7
EA Bogan
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Campbelltown, Adelaide, SA
Posts: 109
Default

dude i drive more than 99% of people as i said driving is my JOB i may as well be a taxy driver thats how much i drive.
__________________
Car 1: Silver 1990 Ford EA s2 Fairmont Ghia 4speed auto

Car 2: White 1998 Toyota Starlet Life 5speed manual
EA Bogan is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-11-2007, 03:04 PM   #8
tim2x
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 205
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by savagE
You serious, its a joke of a test because its useless and easy. That is the dead set easiest test. Get off the roads or get more practice with an instructor.


Dude, i've known some great drivers who have failed this test, the fact is that this test is just stupid outdated piece of a crap.


And yes i did pass mine the first time.
tim2x is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-11-2007, 03:08 PM   #9
Donut King
Officially Unemployed!
 
Donut King's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Heading back to the real world....
Posts: 1,199
Default

and just like some taxi drivers... just because its your job, doesn't mean you're necessarily good at it :p
__________________
"Who does not accept the second place, is not a sportsman. And who is not a sportsman, does not deserve respect" - Norbert Haug, Mclaren Mercedes October 2007.
5 days before his team refused to accept the judges decision and accept 2nd place at the conclusion of the 2007 Championship.

Donut King is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-11-2007, 03:10 PM   #10
EA Bogan
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Campbelltown, Adelaide, SA
Posts: 109
Default

Dude, i've known some great drivers who have failed this test, the fact is that this test is just stupid outdated piece of a crap.


And yes i did pass mine the first time.

re: thank you, and yes it looks like the test is being run from some dodgey video CD with 320 X 240 resolution. The real world is not pixellated and blurry to the point of not being able to recognize large objects from a moderate distance.
__________________
Car 1: Silver 1990 Ford EA s2 Fairmont Ghia 4speed auto

Car 2: White 1998 Toyota Starlet Life 5speed manual
EA Bogan is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-11-2007, 03:13 PM   #11
vztrt
IWCMOGTVM Club Supporter
 
vztrt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Northern Suburbs Melbourne
Posts: 17,799
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: vztrt is one of the most consistent and respected contributors to AFF, I have found his contributions are most useful to discussion as well as answering members queries. 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by savagE
You serious, its a joke of a test because its useless and easy. That is the dead set easiest test. Get off the roads or get more practice with an instructor.
Hmm lets see 100% on my driving test. 2 wrong answers on the road rules and scrapped thru on the hazzard persception test. That thing is a joke. Maybe instead of relying on a low res video test they should make the driving test difficult, because at the end of the day thats where the real test begins.
vztrt is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-11-2007, 03:15 PM   #12
xurbanx
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
xurbanx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Victoria
Posts: 1,007
Default

I failed my first go, and passed the second just barely! Just teaches you to squint and press your face to the screen so you can see the tiny dot that is the cyclist!
__________________
[Old] 2004 Ford Fiesta LX
[New] 2014 Ford Fiesta ST
xurbanx is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-11-2007, 03:32 PM   #13
sleekism
1999 Ford Fairmont Ghia
 
sleekism's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: NSW
Posts: 1,162
Default

Yeah I failed the Hazard Perception Test on the first attempt.

It's funny I got 100% on the driving test and 100% on my motorcycle L's and P's practical and theory test but I had trouble with the Hazard Perception test. I even passed my utility boat driving test during a storm when I was 14 with flying colours yet I couldn't pass the Hazard test first go.

It is a load of crap and a waste of time.
sleekism is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-11-2007, 03:44 PM   #14
XR8putts
Guest
 
XR8putts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Auckland, NZ
Posts: 2,886
Default

Seems like you Aussies need to switch to the NZ system. Drive around in a real car, in real-life situations (urban 50km/h or slower, 70km/h and 100km/h), out of nowhere the instuctor will tell you to pull over and you must list all the hazards you came accross in the last X minutes, which direction they were going, what type of hazard it was etc.

Could not be more relevant. The Aussie system sounds shocking.

EDIT: You don't pull over durring the 100km/h one! It was a while ago now!
XR8putts is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-11-2007, 03:57 PM   #15
GORDZ
OMGORDZ
 
GORDZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SE, Melbourne
Posts: 2,352
Default

in shepp i think i remember the tv screen was in a fresnel magnifying case! goes to show how bad it is
__________________
Gordz Bluesprint Build Thread


BA XR6 Ute, twin throttlebodied blueprint.
GORDZ is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-11-2007, 04:03 PM   #16
uranium_death
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
uranium_death's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Gren A Waverrey
Posts: 2,415
Default

Though I'm 24 now, I got my Ps at the end of November last year. Got 92% for my Ls, got 98% on my driving test...down to 74% for my hazard perception test, which I was told was actually pretty good considering a lot of people fail.

When I got my Ps, it was shortly before the Victorian elections and I told the people at the desk that, "You know, with the elections coming up, maybe Vicroads should appeal for government funding to get decent screens." She didn't like my comment though, but said nothing.

The screens are heavily pixelated.

I will say that the perception test has SOME relevance in exposing us THEORETICALLY to certain situations, but it doesn't compare to real experience.

Since I started driving, the only real mistake I have made was driving through a red light on my second day on my Ps. That alone was something I learned from and have adapted accordingly.

To suggest that people are bad drivers because they struggle through an outdated (visually) and somewhat irrelevant test is ridiculous and shows that maybe your view is as outdated as the screens at Vicroads.
__________________
Practicing - Sleeping with a guitar in your hand counts, as long as you don't drop it.

Don't snap my undies.
uranium_death is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-11-2007, 04:04 PM   #17
AWD Chaser
Formally Kia Chaser
 
AWD Chaser's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Newcastle
Posts: 2,493
Tech Writer: Recognition for the technical writers of AFF - Issue reason: Writing tech articles 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EA Bogan
dude i drive more than 99% of people as i said driving is my JOB i may as well be a taxy driver thats how much i drive.
Plenty of crap taxi drivers out there...
__________________
Kia Grand Carnival (2006)
Silver, Grill Mesh, Tints, Sidesteps (with lights), Towbar, 7" Touch Screen DVD Tuner with intergrated GPS & Bluetooth, Roof Mounted Flip Down 15.1" LCD Screen, Reverse Camera - 184Kw

HSV Clubsport R8 VY (2003)
Black, 6sp Manual, Coulson Seats, Red on black interior, Pacemaker extractors, Twin 2.5" exhaust, Custom Red 20" VE GTS Rims, Custom Red Stitching
AWD Chaser is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-11-2007, 04:38 PM   #18
EA Bogan
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Campbelltown, Adelaide, SA
Posts: 109
Default

they should do the HPT in a realistic simulator with steering wheel and pedals and high res computer generated graphics. Or at least something more closely mirroring real driving.
__________________
Car 1: Silver 1990 Ford EA s2 Fairmont Ghia 4speed auto

Car 2: White 1998 Toyota Starlet Life 5speed manual
EA Bogan is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-11-2007, 04:39 PM   #19
BeStRaFe
lpg = big boom!
 
BeStRaFe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,377
Default

i did it a few month back,
passed easy.

i didnt see it to be that hard
__________________
BF Futura Dedicated E-GAS w/Ghia bling
Project: 86 ZL Fairlane, Red, Sunroof, 310,000KM
BeStRaFe is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-11-2007, 04:47 PM   #20
sleekism
1999 Ford Fairmont Ghia
 
sleekism's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: NSW
Posts: 1,162
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EA Bogan
they should do the HPT in a realistic simulator with steering wheel and pedals and high res computer generated graphics. Or at least something more closely mirroring real driving.
Yeah big screen LCD, XBOX and the latest edition of Need For Speed Carbon.

You have to drive a heavily modified Plymouth Hemi Cuda without crashing and being done by the cops lol
sleekism is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-11-2007, 04:53 PM   #21
HLC
Audi S3
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Sydney.
Posts: 8,307
Default

thye should just do more real driving tests. that'd at least stop people becoming lazy once they get their P's/full licence
__________________
HLC is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-11-2007, 05:01 PM   #22
EA Bogan
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Campbelltown, Adelaide, SA
Posts: 109
Default

as a final question does anyone know for certain that you get minus points for not touching the screen when crossing the intersection?
__________________
Car 1: Silver 1990 Ford EA s2 Fairmont Ghia 4speed auto

Car 2: White 1998 Toyota Starlet Life 5speed manual
EA Bogan is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-11-2007, 05:09 PM   #23
Fev
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Fev's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cattai, Sydney
Posts: 7,701
Default

the HPT you do at the RTA is completely different from the test on the net.. i found it bullshit, although i admit i passed first go, along with my reds.. lol :P..

I thought this test was utterbullsHizzle too, the only reason i passed was because i was too careful.. the only way to pass is brake about 10m or turn with 10m more space then usual
__________________
1992 EBII Fairmont Ghia 4.0l <---Click for the Gallery!
Insta@mooneye_ghia
White on bright red smoothies with thick whitewalls. Cruising around to some rockabilly
Fev is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-11-2007, 05:16 PM   #24
Ruger
Bseries Moderator
 
Ruger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Sydney
Posts: 3,928
Default

yes it is bullshit i was no better a driver when i failed the first time to when i passed the third time. Just keep going back and doing it youll get the hang of it lol
__________________
Long Live the Rugerspeed Primer Destroyer!

Only those that attempt the absurd achieve the impossible.


Serviced and maintained by Mascot Auto Repairs
Ruger is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-11-2007, 06:08 PM   #25
CMGLX
Irregular Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Wyong
Posts: 114
Default

When i did my HPT about a month ago and thought the same WTF is the point of this test (i passed) and how crap quality the videos were

regards
Blake
CMGLX is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-11-2007, 06:14 PM   #26
BeStRaFe
lpg = big boom!
 
BeStRaFe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,377
Default

there are some situation when doing the turning at the lights tests where i didnt press (i dont think i did press in any of them)
and i got 100%

some of my tests even repeated themseves
__________________
BF Futura Dedicated E-GAS w/Ghia bling
Project: 86 ZL Fairlane, Red, Sunroof, 310,000KM
BeStRaFe is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-11-2007, 06:45 PM   #27
Dezza
Parts bin special
 
Dezza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Narre Warren, Vic
Posts: 8,276
Default

I got my P-plates over 5 and a half years ago, but I still remember the blurry pixelated Hazard Perception test. It was seriously outdated back then, so it's even worse now. I passed it first go, but while I got over 90% on the actual driving test, the simulation wasn't anywhere near as great. I agree something needs to be done. It needs a decent resolution and a lot more clarity.
__________________
Weekender 1964 US Falcon Futura convertible - Rangoon Red
260 Windsor V8, 4 speed manual, LHD, Electronic ignition, Mustang wheels
https://fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11470868

Daily 2014 SZII Territory diesel - basic runabout

Previous Cars 1990 EAII Fairmont Ghia - Tickford engine, 5 speed, SVO wheels, bodykit, much more
2000 AUII Fairmont - XR wheels, Ghia interior
2010 FG XR50T ute - XR8 bonnet, Streetfighter intake
Dezza is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-11-2007, 06:52 PM   #28
fangq
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 145
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by savagE
You serious, its a joke of a test because its useless and easy. That is the dead set easiest test. Get off the roads or get more practice with an instructor.
What the hell do you think you're doing watching the road for hazards anyway?
You're supposed to keep your eyes glued to the speedo coz speed KILLS!!

:
Steve
fangq is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-11-2007, 06:52 PM   #29
[Tonko]
What's green is gold
 
[Tonko]'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Shepparton
Posts: 3,079
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazzz
in shepp i think i remember the tv screen was in a fresnel magnifying case! goes to show how bad it is
liar, shepp people cant drive!
__________________

EF XR8 - Koni's - Cam and Headwork -3.9s - Ex VIC TMU -


1982 Nissan Patrol - 460 ci Big Block soon - Semi Gloss Black - Dark Tint - 4x 6" Infinity Kappa Perfect Splits - 5" Kappa 2 ways - Kappa 6x9's - 2x12" Kappa perfect subs - 2x4 Channel and 2x Mono Kappa amps-


[Tonko] is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 07-11-2007, 08:50 PM   #30
savagE
Complete ****** n bogan
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 107
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fangq
You're supposed to keep your eyes glued to the speedo coz speed KILLS!!

:
Steve
Your exactly right, I have been driving like a maniac all these years.
I should of known better for we all know, TV doesn't lie or exaggerate things, now does it?
savagE is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 05:57 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL