Paint And Interior Protection???

[Fab fpv]

Hi im just about to spend a heep of money on a new car and i just wanted to no anyone's experience with paint and interior protection on a new car bought from the dealer. is it worth it? and has anyone got evidence that they work. Thanks for your help and input...

Fab

[_Ben]

Afaik, it's entirely BS. Well, almost entirely. If you really want something like it done, I would take it to a detailer, skip the middle man.

[Ford17]

Worst experience of buying a new car for me was being taken to the protection salesperson. Didn't like being subjected to it and didn't like, or believe in, what they were offering.

However, years later we bought a second hand car that the previous owner had treated with (fallen for) the paint protection add-on, when they bought the car new.

Low and behold the paint has held up brilliantly, it has never needed a polish (except to clean of scuff marks), and looks faultless after only a wash. The car is now 9 years old.

To sum up - it's not a bad thing to have if someone else is paying for it.

[Feathers]

It's just a gimmick. Scotchguard and wax, and way overpriced.

You can get much better results doing it yourself, or if you're not that way inclined, take it to a professional detailer - not one of those car wash cafes!

As long as you look after it and give it a good clean inside and out regularly, you shouldn't have a problem.

[Fab fpv]

Thanks forda
That cracks me up maybe i can get the misses to pay ...
Thanks again

[Fab fpv]

Thanks Feathers Im defanetly that way inclined but thought prevention rather then cure ...

Thanks again

[Feathers]

I see regular maintenance as prevention anyway. If you maintain it, and treat it with respect, it shouldn't up ruined.

[Silver Ghia]

The big problem apart from the cost, is that you dont know how well the protection has been applied. I suspect in many cases not too well, probably missing the sides etc.

A thread from the past on this subject: http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=74240

[dave351cid]

i have copied my post from the above thread.


' i sold and applied these aftermarket products for 9 years in my own business.

i would only deal direct with the customers because the dealers in the area were pretty much all scammers.
i could sell the full package for half or less than the dealers using highest grade products and still make about double what i would supplying cheap crap with a flashy broucher to dealers .

the dealers would only pay a bare minimum $$ for the cheapest products and then sell them at huge prices as the best product available.
i also know of a few that dont actually do the job, just fill out a waranty card with some dodgy fine print and tell you its been done. especially fabric and paint protection. or just do the bonnet-roof &boot lid with paint protection.

some of the stories that customers told me about the claims and promises the aftersales people would make were so out there that you would really wander if they had any idea about what they were saying.

all these products are good , if they suit the usage of the vehical.

if a customer was buying a new car and it would be parked outside every day in the open and they said that they never polish it then i would recomend paint protection, if it was someone who was going to polish the car anyway or the car would be mostly garaged then i would tell them to save their money for something else.

[wrongwaynorris]

The absolute biggest rip off known to man .

[Shonky.]

Always, always avoid the Ming Mole

[Fab fpv]

Ming mole Thats funny as .
Thanks i think ill give it a miss and use my normal method... WASH IT AND WAX IT POLISH IT

Thanks heeps All
Fab

[turbodewd]

Agree totally with the above posts - its close to a scam. Massively overpriced and overhyped. Alas my Mrs fell for it on her Mazda3...before i met her of course.

[Spammy]

The ming mole gets at least 50% commision on whatever crap she sells you.

[xisled]

Originally Posted by shonkymofo

Always, always avoid the Ming Mole

You made my day with that comment. I am at work and I can not stop laughing. ROFL.

[Silver Ghia]

Originally Posted by Silver Ghia

A thread from the past on this subject: http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=74240

'Ming+mole' Those are the key words I use to find that thread using the search function to get the link, each time this subject comes up.

My local Ford dealer doesnt bother me at all with trying to sell that stuff, they seem to know better.

[Crazy Dazz]

Absolute pile of *****.

Really devalues the whole experience of buying a new car. I thought I was dealing with a “professional” dealership, had an intelligent interaction with the salesperson and struck a deal I was happy with, then get affronted with this dumb cow treating me like an idiot and trying to rip me off with crap she didn’t understand. Came close to grabbing the contract, ripping it up, and walking out. Tried to sell me cloth protection, and when I pointed out that my car had leather seats she claimed the same product worked on both.

PS: To anyone that wants to buy a new Ford in Perth, don’t. Head down the road to Lane Ford in Mandurah.

[Rodp]

I put a little fear in them.

'So you're telling me that the paint and interior quality are that terrible that I have to purchase after market products to protect the car? Maybe I should cancel my order...?'

[NickyN]

Originally Posted by shonkymofo

Always, always avoid the Ming Mole

What's a "Ming Mole?"

Originally Posted by Silver Ghia

'Ming+mole' Those are the key words I use to find that thread using the search function to get the link, each time this subject comes up.

My local Ford dealer doesnt bother me at all with trying to sell that stuff, they seem to know better.

I read through 3 pages of the link and I still don't know what a "Ming Mole" is. Someone enlighten me please?

But as far as the aftermarket "packages" go, it's all about commission and it tests the buyer's patience. I've gone with friends and family to seal the deal when they bought their new cars and the extra packages were offered by the car salesperson. Some honest guys have just said things like "if you know someone who does this then no worries, just take it there." I haven't heard the pushiness for it like I'm reading here. I think, if you don't or won't be the one to take care of your car inside and out, then find a reputable detailer and mechanic to take care of it for you. Most important is that your car is taken care of.

[dave351cid]

lol... i take it that you are in the states ,would that be right?

a "ming mole" is a term that is used to describe the sales person in car dealerships whos specific job is to sell after market products like window tint, paint protection, fabric protection, vinyl protection, sound deadener, rust proofing, etc at highly inflated prices. it is general practice to hire attractive young ladys for this job and they are trained only to sell sell sell the product. most of them would have no idea what they are actually selling or how it works.

the dealerships mostly then contract out the work to another business to do the jobs.
there is a large franchise chain of stores in australia that specalises in this work who trade under the name of "ming products"

[Shonky.]

Originally Posted by NickyN

What's a "Ming Mole?"



I read through 3 pages of the link and I still don't know what a "Ming Mole" is. Someone enlighten me please?

But as far as the aftermarket "packages" go, it's all about commission and it tests the buyer's patience. I've gone with friends and family to seal the deal when they bought their new cars and the extra packages were offered by the car salesperson. Some honest guys have just said things like "if you know someone who does this then no worries, just take it there." I haven't heard the pushiness for it like I'm reading here. I think, if you don't or won't be the one to take care of your car inside and out, then find a reputable detailer and mechanic to take care of it for you. Most important is that your car is taken care of.

Even worse than the Ming Mole is the Drop Bear

[Crazy Dazz]

aka The "Bling *****"

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by shonkymofo

Always, always avoid the Ming Mole

If the ming mole came with my car id have been pretty happy

[RSPEC#78]

take it fom someone that worked with these people for 7 years. Its all BS, the only thing that they used to offer that was any good was the underbody protection.........

[ebxr8240]

I would say I'll go buy another make of car ,,,
When they ask WHY ??
I would say I want a car that doesn't require rust treatment etc
Save ya money..
Buy some good Mothers or Meguiars ....
Scotch guard if you must .. Is cheap to buy and apply
as spray can...

[Fab fpv]

Thank you all for the input and laughs . Bloody cracks me up I'll give it a miss and put cash towards track days and fuel.. Thanks
FAB

[Shonky.]

Originally Posted by DJM83

If the ming mole came with my car id have been pretty happy

Probably higher maintenance than the Focus, but yeah, agreed

[Rodge]

I nearly fell for this once a long time ago. She was very, very persuasive and attractive. Sometimes its a handy thing to be able to say, I'll phone my wife and she what she thinks. She came down to the dealership to rescue me in a flash. To this day I'm not sure if that was a good thing or not

[NickyN]

Originally Posted by dave351cid

lol... i take it that you are in the states ,would that be right?

a "ming mole" is a term that is used to describe the sales person in car dealerships whos specific job is to sell after market products like window tint, paint protection, fabric protection, vinyl protection, sound deadener, rust proofing, etc at highly inflated prices. it is general practice to hire attractive young ladys for this job and they are trained only to sell sell sell the product. most of them would have no idea what they are actually selling or how it works.

the dealerships mostly then contract out the work to another business to do the jobs.
there is a large franchise chain of stores in australia that specalises in this work who trade under the name of "ming products"

You guessed it ~ I'm in the U.S.

I don't think there are "ming moles" here, the salesperson gives that pitch. They can sometimes be pushy but it's a tradeoff since they know if they're too pushy their potential buyers will go somewhere else.

OOOOOH, "ming moles" sell the "ming products." So they must be good at "ming moleying."

[NickyN]

Are there attractive ming mole guys for the ladies looking to buy?