Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > Ford Australia Vehicles > Small and Mid Sized Cars > Cougar and Probe

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 23-09-2016, 03:10 PM   #1
Kingsley
Donating Member
Donating Member2
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Hunter Valley
Posts: 4,285
Default Cougar Engine Swaps

Looks our 99 Cougar has a dead cylinder. The options are find a second hand replacement or tow it the wreckers.
Whats needed to swap engines between different year models? I understand the '99 2.5 engine with fuel return is different to non fuel return models (00-on) and may need the transfer of a number of components. Has anyone done the a swap using a later model Cougar engine or even a 3.0L swap? Any help would be appreciated.
Kingsley is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 24-09-2016, 10:17 AM   #2
Mechan1k
Moderator
Donating Member1
 
Mechan1k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Kenthurst
Posts: 40,403
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: Brings a wealth of knowledge to the forums and is frequently giving helpful advice. Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: Always willing to help out with technical information. 
Default Re: Cougar Engine Swaps

Is this the same engine as the Probe as well???
Not sure if they were shared with Mazda as well.

I do know withe the Probe ... there were a number of running changes over the years and there were enough differences to be a pain.
Mechan1k is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 24-09-2016, 04:45 PM   #3
Kingsley
Donating Member
Donating Member2
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Hunter Valley
Posts: 4,285
Default Re: Cougar Engine Swaps

Seems to be the same with the Cougar. Early type had fuel return line from the mainfold to the tank and the later ones dont which from what I can find, you need to change timing covers etc.
Kingsley is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 24-09-2016, 04:47 PM   #4
Mechan1k
Moderator
Donating Member1
 
Mechan1k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Kenthurst
Posts: 40,403
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: Brings a wealth of knowledge to the forums and is frequently giving helpful advice. Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: Always willing to help out with technical information. 
Default Re: Cougar Engine Swaps

That ... and a bunch of sensors are different as well.
Mechan1k is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 24-09-2016, 09:27 PM   #5
REDDYZ
Regular Member
 
REDDYZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Canberra
Posts: 479
Default Re: Cougar Engine Swaps

Probe engine is totally different to Cougar. You can find cougar engines in the following 2000-2003 models:

Jaguar X-Type 2.5 (only intake manifold is different)
Ford Taurus 3.0 (bigger block rest same but you would need engine mount from Cougar)
Mazda MPV (Same engine)
Ford escape (different intake manifold, 3L blocks in latest models and need lot of other items to swap)
Mazda Tribute (its Ford escape with different badge.

There are few others like Ford mondeo V6 but are rare finds on this continent.
__________________
Ex Cougar - 00' MTX 2.5L (Limited edition Eibach Cougar); Dark Green Tourmaline; Lowered with Eibach tuned suspension from factory; SVT UIM, LIM & Throttle body; Supercat 2.5" dual exhaust with twin pipe quad outlets; Custom headers; Custom coloured instrument cluster; K&N Apollo CAI kit; Calibre oil catch can.

Now driving a Lexus RX 450h. Your guess is correct that I am a family man now.
REDDYZ is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
3 users like this post:
Old 24-09-2016, 09:54 PM   #6
.:4:.
Kicking back
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Western sydney
Posts: 8,715
Default Re: Cougar Engine Swaps

It would probably be cheaper to buy a 2.5l x type jag. If you buy one you also buy the gearbox troubles etc. My old man won't let go of his, regardless of the problems, it's comfy to ride in, when it goes...
.:4:. is online now   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 25-09-2016, 11:12 AM   #7
Kingsley
Donating Member
Donating Member2
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Hunter Valley
Posts: 4,285
Default Re: Cougar Engine Swaps

It's a good little car when it's working. However Cougars seem to be very problematic compounded by hard to find parts to fit the exact model you have. There's always the feeling of how and where its going to fail next and how hard will it be to fix.
Kingsley is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 26-09-2016, 01:58 PM   #8
thearrow
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 455
Default Re: Cougar Engine Swaps

I owned a 2000 model Cougar for 12 years (that's mine the "dead one") and can recommend Rockauto.com for any and all parts you may need.

If you are going to do an engine swap then you should join newcougar.org where this subject is covered extensively and where there are plenty of other guys who have done it.

Good luck with it.
__________________
Owning a Cougar is like owning a Super Model

Good to own but "High Maintenance"

2000 Model Eibach Cougar (Auto) - Now dead & buried
thearrow is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
2 users like this post:
Old 23-06-2020, 06:01 PM   #9
WildRacer
Cougar King
 
WildRacer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 17
Thumbs up Re: Cougar Engine Swaps

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darren290 View Post
Seems to be the same with the Cougar. Early type had fuel return line from the mainfold to the tank and the later ones dont which from what I can find, you need to change timing covers etc.
Sorry for bumping, but I thought I'd post this to clear up any misinformation for future reference.

ALL Cougar 2.5l engines 99-01 in Australia and Europe came with the Return style, for whatever reason Ford Europe decided to keep the return style fuel system and only the mid-99 above in the US had the returnless style.

Anyone wanting to attempt the 3.0l will need to rig an adapter up to convert the Returnless 3.0l Escape system to Return or purchase the NPG Adapter.
__________________
00 Eibach Cougar

Mods:
Escape 3.0 V6
ST220 UIM and LIM
NPG Fuel Adapter
California Clutch Stage 2 Disk and PP
ST200 Flywheel
Torsen LSD
Updated Shift Forks
ToyoSport Exhaust Headers
Custom 2.5" Exhaust dual
BAT 21mm RSB
PRT Heavy Duty rear drop links
Energy Suspension Polybushes all around
Eibach Suspension
Eibach body kit
01 Gauges
01 Steering Wheel
Aluminium Sports Pedals
Sony Double Din HU
ST200 Airbox
ST200 TB
Direnza ST200 Aluminium Radiator
Goodridge Brake Hoses
WildRacer is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 11:20 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL